Freight Container?

[speedick]

Quick question / Long story

Does anyone keep / have experience of putting a Mclaren (12c) in a freight container ?.

For instance, I don't think I will be able to drive it in and still get out through the doors (or window ?!) ?. Is it possible to steer through an open window as it goes in ?. Can you stop the handbrake operating electronically and making it difficult to get out again ?.

[Pioneer]

What size is the container? I have some 30ft x 8ft ones that I keep in the corner of our driveway. I think you might just get one in, but getting yourself out again would be nigh on impossible. Maybe push it in somehow on a set of car dollies? Then a slim person and a jack to get them out.

[andrew]

you need smart summon

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/frightening-v...

hth

[Larry5.2]

As in: go park yourself, in the nicest possible way...

[Bispal]

Only way to park with handbrake off is to turn off the engine with the door open and the handbrake button pushed down. Then leave car and lock it. It doesn't help much as the pads are so close to the disc that any moisture will probably create a rusty bond, even with the handbrake off, within 2 weeks, happened to me all the time. Very difficult to drag a car out of a shipping container with the wheels locked! Sole reason why next time I buy a McL it will be with CCB's.

[speedick]

Bispal said:

Only way to park with handbrake off is to turn off the engine with the door open and the handbrake button pushed down. Then leave car and lock it. It doesn't help much as the pads are so close to the disc that any moisture will probably create a rusty bond, even with the handbrake off, within 2 weeks, happened to me all the time. Very difficult to drag a car out of a shipping container with the wheels locked! Sole reason why next time I buy a McL it will be with CCB's.

Thanks - I'd not yet figured the "handbrake" trick.

I may yet just remove the handbrake pads to solve both problems at once .........

[shirt]

Is this for regular storage or one of shipping?

Various solutions for the latter, best way would be to lash it to a skid then slide it in using forklift.

For the former, get a wider container or cut a door in it.

[Pioneer]

andrew said:

you need smart summon

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/frightening-v...

hth

Actually, if it was my 7 series I could do this off the display key. As long as it's a straight line

[Bispal]

speedick said:

Bispal said:

Only way to park with handbrake off is to turn off the engine with the door open and the handbrake button pushed down. Then leave car and lock it. It doesn't help much as the pads are so close to the disc that any moisture will probably create a rusty bond, even with the handbrake off, within 2 weeks, happened to me all the time. Very difficult to drag a car out of a shipping container with the wheels locked! Sole reason why next time I buy a McL it will be with CCB's.

Thanks - I'd not yet figured the "handbrake" trick.

I may yet just remove the handbrake pads to solve both problems at once .........

Same problem with the regular pads on the discs, You can't leave these cars 'damp' for over a few weeks or the brakes will more or likely stick and I don't mean stick that you can power out of I mean stick that needs dragging on the ground by a tow truck for 50M to unlock if copious amounts of boiling water doesn't work.

[speedick]

Bispal said:

Same problem with the regular pads on the discs, You can't leave these cars 'damp' for over a few weeks or the brakes will more or likely stick and I don't mean stick that you can power out of I mean stick that needs dragging on the ground by a tow truck for 50M to unlock if copious amounts of boiling water doesn't work.

I've (thankfully) yet to experience this ..... But my plan is now to put some 0.5mm Mylar sheet that I've just bought between the brake pads & disks when it's time to stand the car through the winter.

[indapendentlee]

Where are you loading it? If you put the car on a pallet most freight handlers can put it in using a forklift. Ontime can definitely do it.

[Davel]

The only issue with containers is that, unless you have good ventilation, they tend to sweat in different weathers which, in turn, causes rust.

If you do use one, fit some good air vents to the walls.

[alfaspecial]

Car dollys?
https://www.screwfix.com/p/hilka-pro-craft-400kg-w...


If you wanted to be technical you could perhaps fabricate some sort of 'axle stands on dolly' (A-SOD, great acronym- I'll patent the idea) ' so you jack the car up on the A-SOD, remove the wheels (security / no flat spotting tyres) and roll the car into the storage container.

You could fix 'U' channel to the floor of the container to guide the contraption to the right place and stop it 'wandering' when being moved
ie say the car is 16 feet long, and the distance between front of car and back of wheels is say 13 feet use two 13 foot channels, blocked off at the far end.

Insulate the storage container (you can buy insulated ones), use a dehumidifier and a battery conditioner

[speedick]

indapendentlee said:

Where are you loading it? If you put the car on a pallet most freight handlers can put it in using a forklift. Ontime can definitely do it.

It's a long story - short version

I'm a serial light aircraft builder and my car's hogging the available garage space which I now need to rivet parts together.

Planning to re home it in a freight container at the side of the garage for the winter and then "flip" aircraft parts & car back across during the summer months (less building, more driving !).

I've already started making some 4 meter long "low angle" loading ramps.

Container wont be level (uphill to get in) so the plan is to use a pulley in the back and a long rope from car to pulley and then underneath back to lawn tractor to pull it in

[speedick]

Davel said:

The only issue with containers is that, unless you have good ventilation, they tend to sweat in different weathers which, in turn, causes rust.

If you do use one, fit some good air vents to the walls.

I'm half expecting this problem.

"Plan A" will be ventilation ... but I'm also considering adding some cedar cladding to the outside of the container to make it less of an eyesore and (hopefully) reduce the condensation risk.

[speedick]

Just out of interest

My initial thought was to build (or rather have built) another garage - 24' x 24' free standing brick / tile roof / 2 x Hormann doors = £65k. Planning Permission needed and blocks the view from the front of my house.

20' "one trip" Freight container, delivered and teleportered into a tricky spot = £2400. No Planning Permission required and hidden at the side of the house.

= £62.5k to spend on fuel & tyres according to my Man maths

Edited by speedick on Wednesday 9th October 16:28

[Larry5.2]

speedick said:

Just out of interest

My initial thought was to build (or rather have built) another garage - 24' x 24' free standing brick / tile roof / 2 x Hormann doors = £65k. Planning Permission needed and blocks the view from the front of my house.

20' "one trip" Freight container, delivered and teleportered into a tricky spot = £2400. No Planning Permission required and hidden at the side of the house.

= £62.5k to spend on fuel & tyres according to my Man maths

Edited by speedick on Wednesday 9th October 16:28

You could divert some of that £62,5k to a dehumdifier and even aircon. Then there'd be no problem with corrosion.

[Bispal]

speedick said:

indapendentlee said:

Where are you loading it? If you put the car on a pallet most freight handlers can put it in using a forklift. Ontime can definitely do it.

It's a long story - short version

I'm a serial light aircraft builder and my car's hogging the available garage space which I now need to rivet parts together.

Planning to re home it in a freight container at the side of the garage for the winter and then "flip" aircraft parts & car back across during the summer months (less building, more driving !).

I've already started making some 4 meter long "low angle" loading ramps.

Container wont be level (uphill to get in) so the plan is to use a pulley in the back and a long rope from car to pulley and then underneath back to lawn tractor to pull it in

I kept my 12C in an outdoor carcoon, I have 2 of them at the moment and have had for 4 years with nice cars in they are great, fully air recirculating and weather proof, about £600 each. Size 4 should do it. https://www.carcoon.com/carcoon-double-skin-outdoo...

[RBT0]

Explain again the issue of leaving the handbrake on....is it because freezing at low temp?

[Gunso]

speedick said:

I'm a serial light aircraft builder and my car's hogging the available garage space which I now need to rivet parts together.

Awesome. What have you built?