Which wide band lamda for EFI V1

Which wide band lamda for EFI V1

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sheepdip

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526 posts

175 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Need a wide band lamda kit to use with EFI live V1 any ideas and prices please.

MadMaxHSV

1,814 posts

198 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Easiest, cheapest and still pretty accurate is the Innovate Motorsport LC-1. Around the 180 mark I think. Ringram can supply if needed.
Also benefits from a serial output which works great with EFI-Live. No titting around with analog issues like grounding offsets.

Behold81

2,931 posts

169 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Yup LC1... Althought for 180 you would get a gauge with it... there alot cheaper than that now.

Monaro5.7

7,333 posts

179 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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£180 yikes sure bosch and delphi do wide band lambda`s

monkfish1

11,040 posts

224 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Binned our innovate stuff. Way to tempremental. PLX stuff has performed faultlessly over the last 2 years. EDO performance sell it.

MadMaxHSV

1,814 posts

198 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Monaro5.7 said:
£180 yikes sure bosch and delphi do wide band lambda`s
It's not just the wideband your buying remember, its the controller also. The LC1 kit comes with a Bosch sensor.

As Behold says it's a bit cheaper than I remember anyway.
The LC1 is one of the cheapest you can get either way.

MadMaxHSV

1,814 posts

198 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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monkfish1 said:
Binned our innovate stuff. Way to tempremental. PLX stuff has performed faultlessly over the last 2 years. EDO performance sell it.
Shame there's no serial option with any of the bigger name brands.
Admitedely my LC1 has occasionally decided to throw error codes rather than AFR readings, but for the price can't be knocked too much.
I'm also using an Powerdex AFX unit for car to car portability which also works nice but more dollar.
PLX looks good from an easy calibration point of view smile

ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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LC1 and MTX are around £150 these days.
Everyone complains about them, but they sell the most in the market, also seen plenty of PLX complaints. The wiring in the LC1 is fiddly unless you go with serial like Mr Max says.
Still they have been fine for me and Ive managed to beat just about everyone in the NA BHP/Cube stakes at SRR over the years.


ARAF

20,759 posts

223 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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ringram said:
....and Ive managed to beat just about everyone in the NA BHP/Cube stakes at SRR over the years.
I didn't realise anyone else was trying. confused

stevieturbo

17,259 posts

247 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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LC-1's can defo be temperamental.

The new MTX seems a lot better though. And the quality of the kit really is superb

ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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ARAF said:
ringram said:
....and Ive managed to beat just about everyone in the NA BHP/Cube stakes at SRR over the years.
I didn't realise anyone else was trying. confused
They give up early mate, they cant handle the competition wink

gsd2000

11,515 posts

183 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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is it best to mount the widebands in one of the narrow band locations and for tuning or is it best to have a set of bungs welded in, so you can keep the narrow band and also use the wideband for tuning/logging?

MadMaxHSV

1,814 posts

198 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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gsd2000 said:
is it best to mount the widebands in one of the narrow band locations and for tuning or is it best to have a set of bungs welded in, so you can keep the narrow band and also use the wideband for tuning/logging?
It's easier to use the narrow band mounts as they are already there. Should really use the ones pre-cat which can be hard to reach on stock headers (no such woes with long-tubes). Using the rears can work though especially for WOT, no less accurate than the tail-pipe sniffer used at dyno's.
'Better' would be to have new bungs welded behind the stock front locations so you can run both narrow and wide.

ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Yeah, lc1 has 2 outputs so you can feed the ecu and scan tool at the same time.
The output wave is a different shape to stock, but still works fine.

MadMaxHSV

1,814 posts

198 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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ringram said:
Yeah, lc1 has 2 outputs so you can feed the ecu and scan tool at the same time.
The output wave is a different shape to stock, but still works fine.
Wasn't suggesting using the wideband as a narrow band.

Tried this, don't bother. If the LC1 has a temperamental moment the duff output pretty much stalls the engine.
Keep the two separate IMO.

ringram

14,700 posts

248 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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MadMaxHSV said:
ringram said:
Yeah, lc1 has 2 outputs so you can feed the ecu and scan tool at the same time.
The output wave is a different shape to stock, but still works fine.
Wasn't suggesting using the wideband as a narrow band.

Tried this, don't bother. If the LC1 has a temperamental moment the duff output pretty much stalls the engine.
Keep the two separate IMO.
Seemed fine for me while it was in. I didn't run it permanently however.

sheepdip

Original Poster:

526 posts

175 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Trigger wheels do a SLC2 pure- Plus 2 for £200. What do you think?
It has configurable outputs which I guess I can connect to the EFI for logging. Also I could use it on non LS powered vehicles to data log as you can input RPM etc.

arh1a

97 posts

127 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Thread resurrection! What duel wideband sensors are people using for EFILive and HPTuner?

I'm looking at fitting them after the Wortec cats (will be decated btw) and disable the post cat sensors to use there location for the widebands.

Mud_

2,924 posts

156 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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I'm running Zeitronix after killing a few Innovates.

JAMESHSV1

291 posts

98 months

Wednesday 21st June 2017
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Mud_ said:
I'm running Zeitronix after killing a few Innovates.
I certainly dont recommend the innovates