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vxr8jaye said:
Dear snowwolf,
Please can I ask why is that better?
Thank you
Mainly made with better components, a finer micron filter mesh with more pleats for extra flow and surface area, the standard Acdelco filter is not made to a high standard, do a search on youtube for "oil filters test" or something like that, the Acdelco pro series filters are standard fitment to the LS7 engine.Please can I ask why is that better?
Thank you
Some say that the standard filter is fine and probably is, but when an engine goes bang or a big end fails and your scratching your head as to why it's happened, no one ever opens up the filter to find out if something has failed inside like the mesh has de-laminated with bad glueing or the non return has failed, always fit the best filter you can buy and the best oil for the engine, there just may be a time you need it to be the best, it just may save your engine going pop.
Whilst it's always good to fit quality parts, and of course OEM will always be good.
I dont think I've seen any engine failure ever that was the sole fault of a filter, on any type of engine or make of filter.
Although the size of modern filters on engines alone would give me more cause for concern than actual make, some of them are tiny ! Not a lot you can do there though given space limitations.
I dont think I've seen any engine failure ever that was the sole fault of a filter, on any type of engine or make of filter.
Although the size of modern filters on engines alone would give me more cause for concern than actual make, some of them are tiny ! Not a lot you can do there though given space limitations.
stevieturbo said:
Whilst it's always good to fit quality parts, and of course OEM will always be good.
I dont think I've seen any engine failure ever that was the sole fault of a filter, on any type of engine or make of filter.
Although the size of modern filters on engines alone would give me more cause for concern than actual make, some of them are tiny ! Not a lot you can do there though given space limitations.
It's hard to tell unless you cut the filter apart, just a little area of where the filter mesh is glued comes away and the filter will be doing very little filtering on the oil, I know that alone could not destroy an engine but would definitely not be good in the long term, the standard acdeleco filters that are about now are very cheaply made and that can be seen on a lot of web posts, fitting the best filter and best oil will come into its own when you need it, like the simplest things of not noticing when you lose coolant and not notice the temp gauge on red, that's when you will need the protection from good oils and filters.I dont think I've seen any engine failure ever that was the sole fault of a filter, on any type of engine or make of filter.
Although the size of modern filters on engines alone would give me more cause for concern than actual make, some of them are tiny ! Not a lot you can do there though given space limitations.
I like tests like these 
just goes to show that there are good and better oils that are supposed to be the same, but not. Also a video on what filters can be like, bit cheesy but shows you some pointers.
http://youtu.be/_NOrwiJwzis
http://youtu.be/uQ_vxdO_9nc
just goes to show that there are good and better oils that are supposed to be the same, but not. Also a video on what filters can be like, bit cheesy but shows you some pointers.http://youtu.be/_NOrwiJwzis
http://youtu.be/uQ_vxdO_9nc
Edited by snowwolf on Sunday 20th December 18:35
snowwolf said:
I like tests like these just goes to show that there are good and better oils that are supposed to be the same, but not. Also a video on what filters can be like, bit cheesy but shows you some pointers.
http://youtu.be/_NOrwiJwzis
http://youtu.be/uQ_vxdO_9nc
Very interesting any cold poring tests available for valvoline oil just goes to show that there are good and better oils that are supposed to be the same, but not. Also a video on what filters can be like, bit cheesy but shows you some pointers.http://youtu.be/_NOrwiJwzis
http://youtu.be/uQ_vxdO_9nc
Edited by snowwolf on Sunday 20th December 18:35
jameshsv said:
Very interesting any cold poring tests available for valvoline oil
No need for any tests like that video, which I'll refrain from tearing apart - just compare the pour point on the Technical Data Sheets to give you an idea - this will show you what you want to see. Note that pour point is reported in scales of 3 C, so 0, -3, -6, -9, -12, -15 etc. Obviously a reputable company will go for the one that represent worse case scenario, so if lab result is -8C, it should be reported as -6C. In reality there will be little to no difference in the real world. To achieve a lower pour point you can just add a pour point depressant when the oil is blended, which typically would be well under 1% addition. 
bonesxu1 said:
Where do you get your filters from? I see monkfish stock the oil but no mention of R/P oil filters.
I get my Royal Purple oil and filters from AAS which is located in Newcastle Upon Tyne. Tel.0191 2673718 and ask for Stuart. I believe they are an official Royal Purple dealer, and they are a very good company.
John
THUNDER STORM said:
Hi can one of you guys that is well up on oil filters make a list of alternative makes and numbers for the various models? If so this would be great to put on the Q&A section.
Thanks in advance.
Ade
There was a list of the different part numbers for alternatives on a Wiki in 2009, and it got wiped, so after 6 months of people saying "it's all on the LS1 forum" I gave up changing it.Thanks in advance.
Ade
Engine
LS2 & LS3 VXR8 Oil Filter OEM 89017524 AC Delco PF48, K&N 1017
LS3 Oil 5w30 or 10w30
LS1 & LS2 Monaro Oil Filter OEM 92142006 AC Delco PF46
Spark plugs Denso IT16 - standard iridium
Transmission
Diff oil 2L Castrol SAF-XJ 75W140
Manual gearbox oil 5L fully synthetic ATF such as Amsoil
Clutch fluid is high boil point DOT 4 - Motul RBF600
Hubs, Brakes, Wheels & Tyres
Monaro & VXR8 PCD 5 x 120mm (BMW)
VXR8 Wheel Studs M14 x 1.5
Monaro Studs M12 x 1.5
VXR8 Hub flange 67mm (Misubishi is 67.1)
VXR8 Standard Wheel Nut 22mm a/f
VXR8 Front Wheel 8J x 19" ET48
VXR8 Rear Wheel 9.5J x 19" ET57
VXR8 Spare Wheel 8J x 19" ET48
VXR8 Front Tyre 245/40-19
VXR8 Rear Tyre 275/35-19
VXR8 Front brake pads EBC Green DP3042C, EBC Yellow DP4042R (FDSR3084 using AP caliper 7040 Padgid pads x-ref is 20346 and AP pad is CP7040D61?)
VXR8 Rear brake pads EBC Red DP3045C, EBC Yellow DP4045R (FDSR3083 using AP caliper CP6600 Padgid pads x-ref is 20345 and AP pad is CP6600D55?)
Ferrodo FRP3083H rear pads are the same as Phase 2 Renault V6 fronts.
VXR8 Rear Brake discs Pagid 104880068
Brake fluid is high boil point DOT 4 - Motul RBF600
Lighting & Electrics
Monaro Main Lamp (Dipped Beam) - H11 12V/55W
VXR8 Main Lamp (Dipped Beam) - H7 12V/55W Halfords Advanced Extreme Brilliance Bulbs,Part number 477EB, Cost £24.99 each though on BOGOF 12/09.
Monaro High Beam - H9 12V/65W
Monaro Fog Lamp - H3 12V/55W
MonaroIndicator - PY21W 12V/21W (Orange, front and rear)
Monaro Park Light - W5W
Monaro Side Indicator - WY5W
Monaro Brake Light - P21/5W
Monaro Rear Light - P21
Monaro Rear fog - P21 ???
Exterior Trim & Equipment
VXR8 front & rear exhaust mounting rubbers 22674119
ARAF said:
THUNDER STORM said:
Hi can one of you guys that is well up on oil filters make a list of alternative makes and numbers for the various models? If so this would be great to put on the Q&A section.
Thanks in advance.
Ade
There was a list of the different part numbers for alternatives on a Wiki in 2009, and it got wiped, so after 6 months of people saying "it's all on the LS1 forum" I gave up changing it.Thanks in advance.
Ade
Engine
LS2 & LS3 VXR8 Oil Filter OEM 89017524 AC Delco PF48, K&N 1017
LS3 Oil 5w30 or 10w30
LS1 & LS2 Monaro Oil Filter OEM 92142006 AC Delco PF46
Spark plugs Denso IT16 - standard iridium
Transmission
Diff oil 2L Castrol SAF-XJ 75W140
Manual gearbox oil 5L fully synthetic ATF such as Amsoil
Clutch fluid is high boil point DOT 4 - Motul RBF600
Hubs, Brakes, Wheels & Tyres
Monaro & VXR8 PCD 5 x 120mm (BMW)
VXR8 Wheel Studs M14 x 1.5
Monaro Studs M12 x 1.5
VXR8 Hub flange 67mm (Misubishi is 67.1)
VXR8 Standard Wheel Nut 22mm a/f
VXR8 Front Wheel 8J x 19" ET48
VXR8 Rear Wheel 9.5J x 19" ET57
VXR8 Spare Wheel 8J x 19" ET48
VXR8 Front Tyre 245/40-19
VXR8 Rear Tyre 275/35-19
VXR8 Front brake pads EBC Green DP3042C, EBC Yellow DP4042R (FDSR3084 using AP caliper 7040 Padgid pads x-ref is 20346 and AP pad is CP7040D61?)
VXR8 Rear brake pads EBC Red DP3045C, EBC Yellow DP4045R (FDSR3083 using AP caliper CP6600 Padgid pads x-ref is 20345 and AP pad is CP6600D55?)
Ferrodo FRP3083H rear pads are the same as Phase 2 Renault V6 fronts.
VXR8 Rear Brake discs Pagid 104880068
Brake fluid is high boil point DOT 4 - Motul RBF600
Lighting & Electrics
Monaro Main Lamp (Dipped Beam) - H11 12V/55W
VXR8 Main Lamp (Dipped Beam) - H7 12V/55W Halfords Advanced Extreme Brilliance Bulbs,Part number 477EB, Cost £24.99 each though on BOGOF 12/09.
Monaro High Beam - H9 12V/65W
Monaro Fog Lamp - H3 12V/55W
MonaroIndicator - PY21W 12V/21W (Orange, front and rear)
Monaro Park Light - W5W
Monaro Side Indicator - WY5W
Monaro Brake Light - P21/5W
Monaro Rear Light - P21
Monaro Rear fog - P21 ???
Exterior Trim & Equipment
VXR8 front & rear exhaust mounting rubbers 22674119
This info should go on Q&A list now so that you have not wasted your time.
Thanks again, I have noted the info for myself.
Have a great Christmas mate.
Ade
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