To remap Monaro or not?

[jelevents]

So I have been thinking is it worth having a remap done?
I thought about getting it done when I had the exhaust done at the fish a few years back but didn't bother at the time.
Car is std 6.0 vxr apart from Wortec cat back.
Questions"..........???
Is it worth doing without any other mods
What difference will it make ( seen companies advertise + 30/40 bhp which I doubt)
Where would I get it done or has anybody used a Bluefin from Superchips
I'm not looking for massive power gains, changing cams, supercharger etc but would like a bit more response/ drive ability.
Thanks in advance

[ringram]

Yes its worth it.
Speak to Carl Herkes you ideally want a dyno before/after for best results.
But at the very very least make sure its a full tune with HPT or EFILive most/all other methods will be crap in comparison.

[mfp4073]

I think you would be better off going to the expense of fitting headers, sports cat's, and a cold air intake before you tune the engine. After that lot you would have some real gains in power and torque. If you tune your engine with just a cat back, I bet it won't belong before you want to fit more performance parts, which mean you might have to pay for another tune. As ringman said, go for a proper remap which will no doubt cost more, but it will be done properly. I hate to say this (as I'm skint at the moment) but with these cars you have to pay to play!!!!!! I've had my car for years and I still want to spend money on it ( damn it )

John

[jelevents]

mfp4073 said:

I think you would be better off going to the expense of fitting headers, sports cat's, and a cold air intake before you tune the engine. After that lot you would have some real gains in power and torque. If you tune your engine with just a cat back, I bet it won't belong before you want to fit more performance parts, which mean you might have to pay for another tune. As ringman said, go for a proper remap which will no doubt cost more, but it will be done properly. I hate to say this (as I'm skint at the moment) but with these cars you have to pay to play!!!!!! I've had my car for years and I still want to spend money on it ( damn it )

John

Thanks John yes headers and cats are on the shopping list wondering where to source from now the fish has gone and is it a direct replacement to oe cats I.e. bolt straight on?
Cars been stored away for over 12 months as I started my own business so had to cut expenses but will be coming back out this year so thinking of treating the old girl.
It's been out of the garage a few times for a start up but before next start I want to to spin it over without starting to build up oil pressure first.
I've read if you floor the throttle whilst cranking it disables the fuel pump, sounds a bit risky think I will remove the relay?

[mfp4073]

As far as storage is concerned, My own car has been off the road since the end of Sept. After about two months I started it up as normal. I ran the car just above idle until it was nice and warm and kept it running for an hour. I also had all the lights switched on together with the heater and air con, basically just trying to keep everything in order. If you want to remove the fuel relay, the engine might still fire up for a few seconds as the fuel system will still be pressurised. However, I'm not a great believer in starting engines up regularly when in storage as it causes engine wear.
As far as headers and cat's are concerned, I had mine made up by a company called AAS, they are located in Newcastle upon Tyne. It has been said many times on here, that their work is very good, and you will struggle to find better, the down side is that they are very busy.... If you fit headers you will need sports cat's as well, the standard one's are restrictive and would become a bit of a bottle neck.
My car is an 05 CV8, and put out 350 HP as standard, after the mods it jumped to around 425 HP at the flywheel. If you have a 6ltr VXR, your gains will be less, as your car is more powerful to start with. Hopefully someone on here might be able to give a better idea.

Hope that helps....John

[throwyourbike]

My car sits in the garage each year from October-March. I just start as normal, leave it to warm up a little, then take it a gentle cruise.
After that it gets a full service ready for summer.

[fred bloggs]

mfp4073 said:

However, I'm not a great believer in starting engines up regularly when in storage as it causes engine wear.

Ha Ha . That's like saying getting out of bed causes wear on your body. The point of an engine is to do work. It is in existence to do a job for you.
Same as your legs.
Nobody walks around with their eyes shut to avoid wearing their eyes out.

[mfp4073]

fred bloggs said:

Ha Ha . That's like saying getting out of bed causes wear on your body. The point of an engine is to do work. It is in existence to do a job for you.
Same as your legs.
Nobody walks around with their eyes shut to avoid wearing their eyes out.

Any engine wear will occur when you first start the engine. You have a rich fuel mixture which will produce a lot of water vapour, this mixture will wash the cylinder bores of oil and run into the sump. When the engine gets hot it will burn all that contamination off. So repeated cold starts without the chance to get up to operating temp will do your engine no favours, in fact your oil will sludge up and cause even more issues. Still if you don't agree then that's your choice.

John

[jelevents]

mfp4073 said:

Any engine wear will occur when you first start the engine. You have a rich fuel mixture which will produce a lot of water vapour, this mixture will wash the cylinder bores of oil and run into the sump. When the engine gets hot it will burn all that contamination off. So repeated cold starts without the chance to get up to operating temp will do your engine no favours, in fact your oil will sludge up and cause even more issues. Still if you don't agree then that's your choice.

John

Tis very true when I used to work in the motor trade we had some old loan cars that we used to drive in and out of the workshop every day just so we didn't have to leave them outside at night.
They hardly ever went out on the road so just got a few minutes running each day and quite often they would leave a trail of oil/fuel leaking out of the crank seals cos the sump was overfilled due to the petrol running past the pistons.
I always make sure when mine comes out for a start up it runs until fully warmed up.

[mfp4073]

[quote=jelevents]

I always make sure when mine comes out for a start up it runs until fully warmed up.

I don't pretend to be a qualified mechanic, but that's the only sensible thing you can do. The main thing is engine wear will be kept to a minimum, and if in long term storage nothing will seize up through lack of use.

John

[fred bloggs]

My advice to OP is this. Do as many mechanical mods as your budget alows before remapping.
Cold air intake,
Full exhaust inc headers and cats.
If you can afford a cam kit (around £700 from states with everthing needed) this will really make the remap worthwhile.