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V Force

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Saturday 30th January 2021
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Hi All

Just doing a bit of research and was wondering if anyone knows (or point me in the right direction to find out), how many VZ versions were imported into the UK, I don't think there were a lot, and any idea how many are left?

Cheers

Oh and for all those who helped me with a previous thread re bumper it's a big thumbs up as I got one.

vxr2010

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Saturday 30th January 2021
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The Dvla are terrible at registering cars correctly , so you can look at ... howmanyleft .. but take it with a big pinch of salt regards accuracy , i tried to get mine registered correctly but it was a case of ... computer says no ... there is a sticky on here of who has what which is probably more accurate , good on the bumper being sorted

V Force

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Saturday 30th January 2021
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Thanks for the reply, think I have already looked briefly on there so will look again. Any idea on what Vauxhall were selling the 'standard' Monaro v the VZ or was it again they didn't know the difference.

mfp4073

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The VZ Monaro numbers were as follows,

10 yellow
29 Odyssey
34 Black
35 Silver
34 Red

These cars are very rare indeed.
The number of VZ's left is anyone's guess, but at least 2 or 3 of each colour must have been scrapped by now and a few more will be in poor condition.
The total number of all Monaro's imported into the UK was around 800 units.




V Force

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Thanks smile

What about the selling price of the 'standard' earlier cars v the VZ? here in the UK? trying to work out a possible % difference....

mfp4073

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V Force said:
Thanks smile

What about the selling price of the 'standard' earlier cars v the VZ? here in the UK? trying to work out a possible % difference....
From what I remember the VZ was priced around £29600.00 and the earlier car was £28600.00.
I would imagine that there would be some discounts on those prices.
The options were pretty slim, a sports exhaust was available ( not sure of the price ) also front and rear ash trays with lighter at around £100 a set, mud flaps were also offered, I paid £40 for the front pair but they kept grounding out so I took them off.
I think that's it?

V Force

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Saturday 30th January 2021
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ok thanks, I though the VZ would be a lot more given the upgrades it had over the standard CV8

mfp4073

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V Force said:
ok thanks, I though the VZ would be a lot more given the upgrades it had over the standard CV8
Yes you would think so.
The VZ Monaro was a top of the range expensive car at the time. In fact I think the Vauxhall version was actually sold cheaper in the UK than the Australian model.
The VZ had various upgrades due to the fact it was also being sold as the Pontiac GTO in America. It must have worked out easier and cheaper to make both versions as similar as possible and carry parts over, hence the upgrades.
The most expensive versions were the HSV cars, which were as follows, (the Australian) GTO, the GTS, and finally the 4 wheel drive coupe 4.
There were also 2 HSV 427 cars built, those particular cars are super expensive dream machines .....to say the least.

V Force

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Ok thanks again.

bigwheel

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V Force, I think you're misunderstanding the term "VZ".
Vauxhall badged Monaros sold in the UK were either a CV8 model or the VXR (Vauxhall Racing).
Both these models are classified by Holden as VZ. In Australia, Holden VZ's were sold as either the 2 door Monaro or the 4 door Commodore. Earlier Holdens were classified as VY and so on and so forth.

V Force

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Hi thanks for the reply, I think it's perhaps the way I was trying to phrase my question rather than misunderstanding? I know it's not the VXR. Perhaps you can confirm:

What were the original earlier/ first imported Monaro's called? Then came(?) the 'later' CV8 Zv's with the updated front brakes, duel exhaust system, new front and back lights and/ or bumpers, 2 new dash board dials, air intakes on bonnet etc,,,



Edited by V Force on Saturday 30th January 15:32

V88Dicky

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Saturday 30th January 2021
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V Force said:
What were the original earlier/ first imported Monaro's called? Then came(?) the 'later' CV8 Zv's with the updated front brakes, duel exhaust system, new front and back lights and/ or bumpers, 2 new dash board dials, air intakes on bonnet etc,,,
Edited by V Force on Saturday 30th January 15:32
That’ll be the V2 SeriesIII

I currently own one, having had a VZ in the past. The only thing I miss from the VZ is the extra dash gauges really. I think oil pressure gauges should be mandatory biggrin

V Force

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Thanks again (I am saying that a lot today!) but I really appreciate the answers biggrin

Lincsls1

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V Force said:
Thanks again (I am saying that a lot today!) but I really appreciate the answers biggrin
Regardless of registration plate...
CV8 V2 Monaro 2004
VXR V2 Monaro 2004

CV8 VZ Monaro 2005 / possibly late 2004.
VXR VZ Monaro 2005

Basically, the VZ was a facelift. But it wasn't all good. For example, the fuel tank now sits in the boot, halving its size and debatably altering the handling - spoiling it a little. This was done solely to meet changing American safety standards (GTO).
The early V2 tank sits under the car behind the axle instead of over it. The boot is massive.
Both versions have dual exhausts too, one per bank, the early V2 has both exiting at the LHS that's all.
The bonnet snouts are cosmetic only, and serve no functional purpose.
The front lights are the same on all models, the later VZ gets the same rears as VXRs.
The brakes are better on the later VZ - 320mm, very nearly as big as the VXR brakes - 330mm, which are only just adequate IMO. AP upgrade is excellent. VZ also gets different 18inch wheels.
Additional gauges from the VXRs find their way into the VZ CV8 which are nice to have too.
I believe the VZ also goes FBW throttle instead of cable. The FBW throttle body for the LS1 CV8 VZ is unique to this car model and hard to source a replacement. The LS2 unit in the VXR is widely available as used in lots of other vehicles.
The engine cover changes from a one piece design to a 2 piece. The cooling system is different in the VZ too. It looses the expansion bottle that sits near the strut tower.
I think that's about it. smile

Edited by Lincsls1 on Saturday 30th January 18:33

Null.Performance

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mfp4073 said:
The VZ Monaro numbers were as follows,

10 yellow
29 Odyssey
34 Black
35 Silver
34 Red
Oh my goodness, I had no idea the VZs were THAT rare in the UK. Makes it even harder to believe I found that one perfect example for me after years of dreaming smile
Always wanted a VZ (non VRX), red or yellow, mostly stock / just sensible mods, manual and no sunroof (as were all UK models) and previously owned by a Holden enthusiast.
Interestingly, I always though I wanted one with a rear wing, but glad mine does not have a wing as the rear end looks absolutely perfect without it in person.

mfp4073

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Null.Performance said:
Oh my goodness, I had no idea the VZs were THAT rare in the UK. Makes it even harder to believe I found that one perfect example for me after years of dreaming smile
Always wanted a VZ (non VRX), red or yellow, mostly stock / just sensible mods, manual and no sunroof (as were all UK models) and previously owned by a Holden enthusiast.
Interestingly, I always though I wanted one with a rear wing, but glad mine does not have a wing as the rear end looks absolutely perfect without it in person.
Well that has made your day biggrin
I must agree with you about the spoiler, and thank God we never got the sunroof option in the UK.


Edited by mfp4073 on Saturday 30th January 22:18

vxr2010

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vxr2010

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i think a subtle spoiler looks quite nice

Lincsls1

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^^^ Works for me.thumbup

Null.Performance

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mfp4073 said:
Well that has made your day biggrin
I must agree with you about the spoiler, and thank God we never got the sunroof option in the UK.
Certainly! Thank you so much John, now it makes perfect sense why it took so long to find "the one".
Apparently I only ever had a pool of 44 vehicles to choose from! 34 red ones and 10 yellow ones.
Or maybe even less? Who knows how many of those 44 examples are still around.

But looking back on the whole experience now, after 1 year of Monaro ownership, I wouldn't want to change a thing.
Still so happy I decided to pull the trigger on the example that is now "my very own CV8 Monaro" smile