VZ questions

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dazvxr

93 posts

44 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Stolen from another page on here, build numbers

Monaro 5.7 333PS
19 Yellow
62 Impulse Blue
69 Black
54 Silver
36 Red

Monaro 5.7 354PS
10 Yellow
29 Odyssey
34 Black
35 Silver
34 Red

Monaro VXR 5.7 354PS
20 Black
21 Silver
21 Red

Monaro VXR 6.0 403PS
124 Black
111 Silver
121 Red

Total 800

Lincsls1

3,327 posts

139 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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dazvxr said:
Stolen from another page on here, build numbers

Monaro 5.7 333PS
19 Yellow
62 Impulse Blue
69 Black
54 Silver
36 Red

Monaro 5.7 354PS
10 Yellow
29 Odyssey
34 Black
35 Silver
34 Red

Monaro VXR 5.7 354PS
20 Black
21 Silver
21 Red

Monaro VXR 6.0 403PS
124 Black
111 Silver
121 Red

Total 800
In the interest of keeping things as accurate as possible...

The 5.7 VXR produced more power than the VZ 5.7
Approximately 380bhp vs 350bhp.

dazvxr

93 posts

44 months

Sunday 31st January 2021
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Lincsls1 said:
In the interest of keeping things as accurate as possible...

The 5.7 VXR produced more power than the VZ 5.7
Approximately 380bhp vs 350bhp.
Or in the case of ours at little more ;-)

I didn't notice the power error on the post I copied, just thought the build numbers would answer some of the questions raised.
The FAQs have nearly a complete list of the names of who have or do own the cars. With such low build/import numbers these are one of the rarest production cars in UK I believe.

berliner

18 posts

48 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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What are the differences between the 333 HP and 357 HP Monaro?

SturdyHSV

10,083 posts

166 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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berliner said:
What are the differences between the 333 HP and 357 HP Monaro?
333hp one ( a V2)



357hp one ( a VZ)



berliner

18 posts

48 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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Sorry, I mean the performance (bph) differences. What is different?

Lincsls1

3,327 posts

139 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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berliner said:
Sorry, I mean the performance (bph) differences. What is different?
I believe its mostly, if not totally, down to the mapping of the ECU.

SturdyHSV

10,083 posts

166 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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Lincsls1 said:
berliner said:
Sorry, I mean the performance (bph) differences. What is different?
I believe its mostly, if not totally, down to the mapping of the ECU.
Yep, far as I know it is just a matter of the mapping. The 5.7 VXR had some shorty exhaust manifolds but again otherwise just in the map and that was 384bhp.

Lincsls1

3,327 posts

139 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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The VXR body kit added the 30bhp I think you'll find!laugh

wormus

14,509 posts

202 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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I wouldn’t get too hung up on which one makes the most power. E.g a 5.7 can easily produce over 400hp to match the 6.0L with a couple of bolt on goodies. Also they are the same underneath so you can easily make a CV8 perform as well or better than an HSV/VXR.

One’s a proper Monaro whilst the other’s got lots of pointless and heavy plastic stuck to it. smile

Lincsls1

3,327 posts

139 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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wormus said:
I wouldn’t get too hung up on which one makes the most power. E.g a 5.7 can easily produce over 400hp to match the 6.0L with a couple of bolt on goodies. Also they are the same underneath so you can easily make a CV8 perform as well or better than an HSV/VXR.

One’s a proper Monaro whilst the other’s got lots of pointless and heavy plastic stuck to it. smile
One's a Holden.
And the other is a Holden Special Vehicle!biggrin

wormus

14,509 posts

202 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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Lincsls1 said:
One's a Holden.
And the other is a Holden Special Vehicle!biggrin
For Special people wink

Lincsls1

3,327 posts

139 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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Very kind of you to say Sir.yeswink

raving

1,183 posts

189 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Lincsls1 said:
Regardless of registration plate...
CV8 V2 Monaro 2004
VXR V2 Monaro 2004

CV8 VZ Monaro 2005 / possibly late 2004.
VXR VZ Monaro 2005

Basically, the VZ was a facelift. But it wasn't all good. For example, the fuel tank now sits in the boot, halving its size and debatably altering the handling - spoiling it a little. This was done solely to meet changing American safety standards (GTO).
The early V2 tank sits under the car behind the axle instead of over it. The boot is massive.
Both versions have dual exhausts too, one per bank, the early V2 has both exiting at the LHS that's all.
The bonnet snouts are cosmetic only, and serve no functional purpose.
The front lights are the same on all models, the later VZ gets the same rears as VXRs.
The brakes are better on the later VZ - 320mm, very nearly as big as the VXR brakes - 330mm, which are only just adequate IMO. AP upgrade is excellent. VZ also gets different 18inch wheels.
Additional gauges from the VXRs find their way into the VZ CV8 which are nice to have too.
I believe the VZ also goes FBW throttle instead of cable. The FBW throttle body for the LS1 CV8 VZ is unique to this car model and hard to source a replacement. The LS2 unit in the VXR is widely available as used in lots of other vehicles.
The engine cover changes from a one piece design to a 2 piece. The cooling system is different in the VZ too. It looses the expansion bottle that sits near the strut tower.
I think that's about it. smile

Edited by Lincsls1 on Saturday 30th January 18:33
All Vz's in Uk used Cv8 type rear lights ( only cv8 diff was cv8r ) & they also had different headlights ( specific to this model ) , front hubs have bigger thread for caliper carriers also & various other bits around it

wormus

14,509 posts

202 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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I think the front bumper is unique also on the VZ CV8 or certainly the fog lights are. Same with the rear bumper due to the exhausts.

raving

1,183 posts

189 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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wormus said:
I think the front bumper is unique also on the VZ CV8 or certainly the fog lights are. Same with the rear bumper due to the exhausts.
Yes front bumper & ducting behind it is different to aid cooling

Rear bumper different & inset lower panel

Piano black dash surround , different intake pie , more hp than previous Cv8

Lots of other bits

V88Dicky

7,302 posts

182 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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I might be imagining it, but on my VZ, the accelerator pedal was hinged from the floor, whereas my current V2 has it mounted the more traditional way (from above).

Heel and toe I find a little trickier now frown

Lincsls1

3,327 posts

139 months

Wednesday 10th February 2021
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V88Dicky said:
I might be imagining it, but on my VZ, the accelerator pedal was hinged from the floor, whereas my current V2 has it mounted the more traditional way (from above).

Heel and toe I find a little trickier now frown
Certainly wasn't on my 'old' VZ VXR. Was just the same as my V2 VXR.
Think you're imagining it!
The throttle is hinged from the floor in my Caddy van though!

V88Dicky

7,302 posts

182 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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Lincsls1 said:
V88Dicky said:
I might be imagining it, but on my VZ, the accelerator pedal was hinged from the floor, whereas my current V2 has it mounted the more traditional way (from above).

Heel and toe I find a little trickier now frown
Certainly wasn't on my 'old' VZ VXR. Was just the same as my V2 VXR.
Think you're imagining it!
The throttle is hinged from the floor in my Caddy van though!
I must be imagining it then hehe

They definitely feel different though, perhaps one is hinged and the other not? Needs more investigation....

bigwheel

1,616 posts

213 months

Thursday 11th February 2021
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04 manual cable throttle
05 fly by wire