Discussion
dazvxr said:
Stolen from another page on here, build numbers
Monaro 5.7 333PS
19 Yellow
62 Impulse Blue
69 Black
54 Silver
36 Red
Monaro 5.7 354PS
10 Yellow
29 Odyssey
34 Black
35 Silver
34 Red
Monaro VXR 5.7 354PS
20 Black
21 Silver
21 Red
Monaro VXR 6.0 403PS
124 Black
111 Silver
121 Red
Total 800
In the interest of keeping things as accurate as possible...Monaro 5.7 333PS
19 Yellow
62 Impulse Blue
69 Black
54 Silver
36 Red
Monaro 5.7 354PS
10 Yellow
29 Odyssey
34 Black
35 Silver
34 Red
Monaro VXR 5.7 354PS
20 Black
21 Silver
21 Red
Monaro VXR 6.0 403PS
124 Black
111 Silver
121 Red
Total 800
The 5.7 VXR produced more power than the VZ 5.7
Approximately 380bhp vs 350bhp.
Lincsls1 said:
In the interest of keeping things as accurate as possible...
The 5.7 VXR produced more power than the VZ 5.7
Approximately 380bhp vs 350bhp.
Or in the case of ours at little more ;-)The 5.7 VXR produced more power than the VZ 5.7
Approximately 380bhp vs 350bhp.
I didn't notice the power error on the post I copied, just thought the build numbers would answer some of the questions raised.
The FAQs have nearly a complete list of the names of who have or do own the cars. With such low build/import numbers these are one of the rarest production cars in UK I believe.
Lincsls1 said:
berliner said:
Sorry, I mean the performance (bph) differences. What is different?
I believe its mostly, if not totally, down to the mapping of the ECU.I wouldn’t get too hung up on which one makes the most power. E.g a 5.7 can easily produce over 400hp to match the 6.0L with a couple of bolt on goodies. Also they are the same underneath so you can easily make a CV8 perform as well or better than an HSV/VXR.
One’s a proper Monaro whilst the other’s got lots of pointless and heavy plastic stuck to it.
One’s a proper Monaro whilst the other’s got lots of pointless and heavy plastic stuck to it.
wormus said:
I wouldn’t get too hung up on which one makes the most power. E.g a 5.7 can easily produce over 400hp to match the 6.0L with a couple of bolt on goodies. Also they are the same underneath so you can easily make a CV8 perform as well or better than an HSV/VXR.
One’s a proper Monaro whilst the other’s got lots of pointless and heavy plastic stuck to it.
One's a Holden.One’s a proper Monaro whilst the other’s got lots of pointless and heavy plastic stuck to it.
And the other is a Holden Special Vehicle!
Lincsls1 said:
Regardless of registration plate...
CV8 V2 Monaro 2004
VXR V2 Monaro 2004
CV8 VZ Monaro 2005 / possibly late 2004.
VXR VZ Monaro 2005
Basically, the VZ was a facelift. But it wasn't all good. For example, the fuel tank now sits in the boot, halving its size and debatably altering the handling - spoiling it a little. This was done solely to meet changing American safety standards (GTO).
The early V2 tank sits under the car behind the axle instead of over it. The boot is massive.
Both versions have dual exhausts too, one per bank, the early V2 has both exiting at the LHS that's all.
The bonnet snouts are cosmetic only, and serve no functional purpose.
The front lights are the same on all models, the later VZ gets the same rears as VXRs.
The brakes are better on the later VZ - 320mm, very nearly as big as the VXR brakes - 330mm, which are only just adequate IMO. AP upgrade is excellent. VZ also gets different 18inch wheels.
Additional gauges from the VXRs find their way into the VZ CV8 which are nice to have too.
I believe the VZ also goes FBW throttle instead of cable. The FBW throttle body for the LS1 CV8 VZ is unique to this car model and hard to source a replacement. The LS2 unit in the VXR is widely available as used in lots of other vehicles.
The engine cover changes from a one piece design to a 2 piece. The cooling system is different in the VZ too. It looses the expansion bottle that sits near the strut tower.
I think that's about it.
All Vz's in Uk used Cv8 type rear lights ( only cv8 diff was cv8r ) & they also had different headlights ( specific to this model ) , front hubs have bigger thread for caliper carriers also & various other bits around itCV8 V2 Monaro 2004
VXR V2 Monaro 2004
CV8 VZ Monaro 2005 / possibly late 2004.
VXR VZ Monaro 2005
Basically, the VZ was a facelift. But it wasn't all good. For example, the fuel tank now sits in the boot, halving its size and debatably altering the handling - spoiling it a little. This was done solely to meet changing American safety standards (GTO).
The early V2 tank sits under the car behind the axle instead of over it. The boot is massive.
Both versions have dual exhausts too, one per bank, the early V2 has both exiting at the LHS that's all.
The bonnet snouts are cosmetic only, and serve no functional purpose.
The front lights are the same on all models, the later VZ gets the same rears as VXRs.
The brakes are better on the later VZ - 320mm, very nearly as big as the VXR brakes - 330mm, which are only just adequate IMO. AP upgrade is excellent. VZ also gets different 18inch wheels.
Additional gauges from the VXRs find their way into the VZ CV8 which are nice to have too.
I believe the VZ also goes FBW throttle instead of cable. The FBW throttle body for the LS1 CV8 VZ is unique to this car model and hard to source a replacement. The LS2 unit in the VXR is widely available as used in lots of other vehicles.
The engine cover changes from a one piece design to a 2 piece. The cooling system is different in the VZ too. It looses the expansion bottle that sits near the strut tower.
I think that's about it.
Edited by Lincsls1 on Saturday 30th January 18:33
wormus said:
I think the front bumper is unique also on the VZ CV8 or certainly the fog lights are. Same with the rear bumper due to the exhausts.
Yes front bumper & ducting behind it is different to aid cooling Rear bumper different & inset lower panel
Piano black dash surround , different intake pie , more hp than previous Cv8
Lots of other bits
V88Dicky said:
I might be imagining it, but on my VZ, the accelerator pedal was hinged from the floor, whereas my current V2 has it mounted the more traditional way (from above).
Heel and toe I find a little trickier now
Certainly wasn't on my 'old' VZ VXR. Was just the same as my V2 VXR.Heel and toe I find a little trickier now
Think you're imagining it!
The throttle is hinged from the floor in my Caddy van though!
Lincsls1 said:
V88Dicky said:
I might be imagining it, but on my VZ, the accelerator pedal was hinged from the floor, whereas my current V2 has it mounted the more traditional way (from above).
Heel and toe I find a little trickier now
Certainly wasn't on my 'old' VZ VXR. Was just the same as my V2 VXR.Heel and toe I find a little trickier now
Think you're imagining it!
The throttle is hinged from the floor in my Caddy van though!
They definitely feel different though, perhaps one is hinged and the other not? Needs more investigation....
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