VZ questions

[V88Dicky]

bigwheel said:

04 manual cable throttle
05 fly by wire

Yes I was aware of that, but it’s almost as if the pedal is in a slightly different position, perhaps further away from the brake pedal?

[Null.Performance]

bigwheel said:

04 manual cable throttle
05 fly by wire

Maybe slightly off topic, but does anybody know if the throttle characteristics are noticeably different between 04 and 05? Never driven an 04 with the old fashioned throttle cable, but curious. I imagine there has to be a difference, cause why would they even bother make the switch for the last model year otherwise.

[bigwheel]

You're quite likely to be right to say the pedal could be in a different position.
I haven't looked but have seen on other vehicles that there might be an electric rheostat or similar device on the end of the pedal above the pivot instead of the end of a steel cable.

[SturdyHSV]

Null.Performance said:

Maybe slightly off topic, but does anybody know if the throttle characteristics are noticeably different between 04 and 05? Never driven an 04 with the old fashioned throttle cable, but curious. I imagine there has to be a difference, cause why would they even bother make the switch for the last model year otherwise.

Everywhere moved to electronic throttles as it's just easier to control / map etc., cruise control is free, can use the throttle to control idle, limit revs, control torque etc. (although I believe they use ignition timing for this as it's more responsive).

They'd have to make the change at some point, maybe changes in emissions regulations somewhere, or simply what GM were willing to supply etc.

The pedal would no doubt 'feel' different under the foot as it's just actuating a potentiometer as opposed to pulling on a cable, as for whether the resultant 'mapping' was different, maybe, although you could of course just map the electronic one to move the throttle blade by the appropriate amount to match the cable version.

[Lincsls1]

See for yourselves, a VZ-VXR using FBW, interior picture.
Not hinged from the floor.

Edited by Lincsls1 on Thursday 11th February 16:49

[Lincsls1]

After just looking at my V2-VXR pedals, they look to be in exactly the same position.
No doubt it might 'feel' different as others have said due to the cable driven TB.

[GTdrive]

When they were new I used to find the VXR a bit on the chavy side. But today after time has past, I think the VXR looks a lot less dated. The Monaro was always a bit of a blend design. The VXR helps bringing it a little more up to date. Next to modern Toyotas the VXR looks understated. But not boring.

[mfp4073]

The Monaro is a product of its time, well in truth it was a bit late to the party really,
it was based on a Commodore which itself was designed in the mid 90's.
The Monaro has just gone through a stage in its life when it just looks old or at best a bit dated.
Some cars will thankfully fade away but a few will start to look better as time goes on.
I think the Monaro has a ( almost ) timeless shape to it that will age quite well over the next few years. In other words it will improve like a fine wine?
Mind you if the Monaro had hit the road in the mid 90's it would have been quite something.
If you own one today hang onto it for a couple of more years and see how it works out, you can't lose really.