CAPA conversions for Holden Monaro.
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V6 6LEN said:
Hi i have a Holden Capa f-320 i know a bit about them mine goes to Mark at rapid GB
I've noticed you calling your car that before but not said anything. It's not really a "Holden Capa" there is no such thing. Just like if it had been modified by Monkfish it wouldn't make it a "Vauxhall Monkfish"...V6 JDT said:
So is a Mercedes McLaren not a Mercedes McLaren at all? Same thing isn't it?
Hardly the same. AFAIK Capa are just a tuning workshop? (Haven't actually heard of them here, I had to look it up on the web)Just sounds odd calling it a Holden Capa, Holden have never made a "capa". I assume it is a Commodore, which has had some mods done by Capa?
My RX7 isn't a "Mazda Rotomotion" it is still an RX7, with mods done by the Rotomotion workshop.
Hi I realise that, but capa change everything about the car including the Vin plate the car is on the log book as a Capa f-320 Holden is not mentioned but it helps me identify the car. It was originally a Holden Calais and Capa take it off the production line and re work the whole car.
The vin plate chassis number is 000000001 making it the only one. capa have a web site in Australia i suppose its a little like AMG is to Merc. There is a few people that know all about this Mark and Rapid and Roger at Monkfish has seen the car. Call the car whatever on the log book its a Capa F-320 and on the vin plate Underneath all the changes it is a Holden Calais.
The vin plate chassis number is 000000001 making it the only one. capa have a web site in Australia i suppose its a little like AMG is to Merc. There is a few people that know all about this Mark and Rapid and Roger at Monkfish has seen the car. Call the car whatever on the log book its a Capa F-320 and on the vin plate Underneath all the changes it is a Holden Calais.
V6 6LEN said:
Hi I realise that, but capa change everything about the car including the Vin plate the car is on the log book as a Capa f-320 Holden is not mentioned but it helps me identify the car. It was originally a Holden Calais and Capa take it off the production line and re work the whole car.
The vin plate chassis number is 000000001 making it the only one. capa have a web site in Australia i suppose its a little like AMG is to Merc. There is a few people that know all about this Mark and Rapid and Roger at Monkfish has seen the car. Call the car whatever on the log book its a Capa F-320 and on the vin plate Underneath all the changes it is a Holden Calais.
I think Capa used to do a lot more than just mod cars but maybe they dont anymore. This list of mod's is about 4 pages long.The vin plate chassis number is 000000001 making it the only one. capa have a web site in Australia i suppose its a little like AMG is to Merc. There is a few people that know all about this Mark and Rapid and Roger at Monkfish has seen the car. Call the car whatever on the log book its a Capa F-320 and on the vin plate Underneath all the changes it is a Holden Calais.
Iirc, LSV imported a few CAPA cars as they were not liable to the strict tests that HSV's couldn't pass at the time. The reason being that HSV produced in excess of a certain of no. of vehicles and as such were liable to these tests.
However, CAPA were seen as a manufacturer in their own right & produced less cars than whatever the no. was and as such were not subject to these tests.
I think Brabus are also seen as a manufacturer, despite the obvious use of Merc. donor car.
So it would be correct to call the car a CAPA. Of course very few people would have heard of a CAPA, so it's easier to call it a Holden CAPA. Just as the press used to refer to HSV's as Holden HSV's. Which of course would really mean Holden Holden Special Vehicles.
However, CAPA were seen as a manufacturer in their own right & produced less cars than whatever the no. was and as such were not subject to these tests.
I think Brabus are also seen as a manufacturer, despite the obvious use of Merc. donor car.
So it would be correct to call the car a CAPA. Of course very few people would have heard of a CAPA, so it's easier to call it a Holden CAPA. Just as the press used to refer to HSV's as Holden HSV's. Which of course would really mean Holden Holden Special Vehicles.
A57 HSV said:
Iirc, LSV imported a few CAPA cars as they were not liable to the strict tests that HSV's couldn't pass at the time. The reason being that HSV produced in excess of a certain of no. of vehicles and as such were liable to these tests.
However, CAPA were seen as a manufacturer in their own right & produced less cars than whatever the no. was and as such were not subject to these tests.
I think Brabus are also seen as a manufacturer, despite the obvious use of Merc. donor car.
So it would be correct to call the car a CAPA. Of course very few people would have heard of a CAPA, so it's easier to call it a Holden CAPA. Just as the press used to refer to HSV's as Holden HSV's. Which of course would really mean Holden Holden Special Vehicles.
Again, totally different here (In Australia) HSVs are recognised as such, only a non petrol head would call them a Holden. Still never heard of Capa apart from on this forum However, CAPA were seen as a manufacturer in their own right & produced less cars than whatever the no. was and as such were not subject to these tests.
I think Brabus are also seen as a manufacturer, despite the obvious use of Merc. donor car.
So it would be correct to call the car a CAPA. Of course very few people would have heard of a CAPA, so it's easier to call it a Holden CAPA. Just as the press used to refer to HSV's as Holden HSV's. Which of course would really mean Holden Holden Special Vehicles.
www.capa.com.au The site seems a bit out of date, but still active as you can buy this body kit for a VE www.capa.com.au/pics/accessories_kits_ve_supercar_side_big.jpg
A57 HSV said:
www.capa.com.au The site seems a bit out of date, but still active as you can buy this body kit for a VE http://www.capa.com.au/pics/accessories_kits_ve_su...
Speedbumptastic! That'd last about 5 minutes here in the UK 
madazrx7 said:
A57 HSV said:
Iirc, LSV imported a few CAPA cars as they were not liable to the strict tests that HSV's couldn't pass at the time. The reason being that HSV produced in excess of a certain of no. of vehicles and as such were liable to these tests.
However, CAPA were seen as a manufacturer in their own right & produced less cars than whatever the no. was and as such were not subject to these tests.
I think Brabus are also seen as a manufacturer, despite the obvious use of Merc. donor car.
So it would be correct to call the car a CAPA. Of course very few people would have heard of a CAPA, so it's easier to call it a Holden CAPA. Just as the press used to refer to HSV's as Holden HSV's. Which of course would really mean Holden Holden Special Vehicles.
However, CAPA were seen as a manufacturer in their own right & produced less cars than whatever the no. was and as such were not subject to these tests.
I think Brabus are also seen as a manufacturer, despite the obvious use of Merc. donor car.
So it would be correct to call the car a CAPA. Of course very few people would have heard of a CAPA, so it's easier to call it a Holden CAPA. Just as the press used to refer to HSV's as Holden HSV's. Which of course would really mean Holden Holden Special Vehicles.
Again, totally different here (In Australia) HSVs are recognised as such, only a non petrol head would call them a Holden. Still never heard of Capa apart from on this forum
I have seen an old ad for a Ford Ute over there that runs on Gas called something other than a Ford Falcon ute. It has the Ford badges removed and some other badge put on it.
A57 HSV reason sounds very reasonable to me. Am I right in saying all the Holden badges were removed from it?
Never heard of CAPA? I've heard of Rotomotion!!!
There was another Mazda shop in Guildford (the Perth kind) can't remember it's name. On the CAPA website it refers to the vehicles. www.capa.com.au/cars/welcome.htm
motomk
motomk said:
Never heard of CAPA? I've heard of Rotomotion!!! There was another Mazda shop in Guildford (the Perth kind) can't remember it's name.
motomk
Um that was Rotomotion! (not sure if you're being serious?) There was another Mazda shop in Guildford (the Perth kind) can't remember it's name.motomk
Used to be owned by Kim (Father of Heath) Ledger who used to sponsor my race car. Recently moved to Maddington, now run by John Clements (who used to work for Kim)
crisisjez said:
Well if mazdarx7 has never heard of Capa.
Then I guess they dont exist.
Everyone stop calling them Holden Capa`s
And noone`s ever bought an Alpina either, just a BMW....err!!!!!
I'm not looking for an argument, but you can't call it a "Holden Capa"! The name might be well known in Melbourne (or where ever they are?) but not in Perth. I'm not suggesting they don't exist Then I guess they dont exist.
Everyone stop calling them Holden Capa`s
And noone`s ever bought an Alpina either, just a BMW....err!!!!!
, just that they appear to me to be a tuning workshop. The website www.capa.com.au shows capa to stand for centrifugal air pumps australia.In Aus. they appear to refer to them as CAPA Holden (CAPA convert other marques as well). As per this drift article www.driftaustralia.com.au/news.asp?newsitem=95
A57 HSV said:
In Aus. they appear to refer to them as CAPA Holden (CAPA convert other marques as well). As per this drift article http://www.driftaustralia.com.au/news.asp?newsitem...
I can't access that page, but I assume it refers to "The Capa Holden" in the same way it would refer to "The Speedworks Nissan" ? That is, I believe there is a CAPA sponsored Holden competing in drifting in Australia?madazrx7 said:
A57 HSV said:
In Aus. they appear to refer to them as CAPA Holden (CAPA convert other marques as well). As per this drift article www.driftaustralia.com.au/news.asp?newsitem=95
I can't access that page, but I assume it refers to "The Capa Holden" in the same way it would refer to "The Speedworks Nissan" ? That is, I believe there is a CAPA sponsored Holden competing in drifting in Australia?
Maybe, the pic. of the car is too small to see the livery in detail. To find out more about the CAPA cars that were imported from Aus., you'd need to hear from LSV or Mark Frisby who now runs RapidGB.
Other than seeing the cars & knowing that CAPA sell loads of tuning mods. etc., I don't know anymore than I've said. Maybe they only produced the full cars for U.K import?
madazrx7 said:
motomk said:
Never heard of CAPA? I've heard of Rotomotion!!! There was another Mazda shop in Guildford (the Perth kind) can't remember it's name.
motomk
There was another Mazda shop in Guildford (the Perth kind) can't remember it's name. motomk
Um that was Rotomotion! (not sure if you're being serious?)
Used to be owned by Kim (Father of Heath) Ledger who used to sponsor my race car. Recently moved to Maddington, now run by John Clements (who used to work for Kim)
I was being serious honest, I couldn't remember the name. I remember passing it on my way to work. It is 8 years since I lived in Perth but I have a memory like a selective Ox!!
A57 HSV said:
Other than seeing the cars & knowing that CAPA sell loads of tuning mods. etc., I don't know anymore than I've said. Maybe they only produced the full cars for U.K import?
I think you are the money again, over here they would be badged as CAPA enhanced maybe. I haven't seen any. CAPA are quite well known as they produce a lot of supercharger kits and other performance parts. There is/was another bunch of cars built from Holdens called CSV's. They were more out there than HSV's (personal opinion here). Fairly rare nowadays.
Back to the original question, it would probably have all the mods that a lot of people do to their cars anyway, like the exhaust,tune, brakes, suspension etc so in effect would be equal or better than a HSV depending on which parts CAPA put on the car. I know that last statement will upset people, however in oppostion to that, its resale might not be as good as the HSV's. That would generally be the case in Oz.
Thinking about it though, I guess there are only a few CAPA's over there, so they might be more exclusive and thus hold their value, I don't really know.
motomk
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