oil change

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mfp4073

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1,945 posts

174 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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My car is due an oil change next week, it was changed 12 months ago and has only covered 5ooo miles.
The oil in the engine is Royal Purple, and it still looks OK, i.e not black.
So the question is how long can you leave the oil before it degrades too much?
The reason I ask is that great claims are made about oil these days,so why can't you get a couple of years of normal driving out of it?

keelan85

215 posts

168 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Well if your car is anything like my Monaro VXR it slowly goes through the oil in the engine quicker than it can degrade.

Chances are that you will have to top it up before it gets bad.

sneakygloworm

558 posts

181 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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yeah tis true. Think the dipstick mark is only one litre. Mine burns off that amount about every 800 to 1000 miles.

snowwolf

11,503 posts

175 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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I have done 13k in last year and it never needed topping up between oil changes

Drew SS

2,683 posts

184 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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snowwolf said:
I have done 13k in last year and it never needed topping up between oil changes


u must have an exceptional motor

stick100

7,017 posts

168 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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i can't see why everyone is obsessed with royal purple oils they are no better or no whorse the mobile one but are more money

satsuma71

177 posts

166 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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stick100 said:
i can't see why everyone is obsessed with royal purple oils they are no better or no whorse the mobile one but are more money
Agreed,like most things, a few it will have made a difference, they then tell everyone else, why for some reason seem to get the placebo effect, everyone THINKS it's better, any high grade synthetic oil is fine for the car, theres nothing RP know about than all the other oil companies out there don't, Mobil includedlaugh as long as they are blended from the best esters, then all is good, BTW, i have a pal who does just that for an oil company, blend oils, and has done for years, so i tend to listen to what he says.

Edited by satsuma71 on Sunday 5th September 15:33

mfp4073

Original Poster:

1,945 posts

174 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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If Royal Purple is the same as any other oil, how can it perform better in test's and why don't other oil manufacturer's challenge Royal Purples claims?
As for oil consumption my engine has never needed a top up between servicing, I thought only tuned motors used extra oil.

MadMaxHSV

1,814 posts

198 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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mfp4073 said:
If Royal Purple is the same as any other oil, how can it perform better in test's and why don't other oil manufacturer's challenge Royal Purples claims?
As for oil consumption my engine has never needed a top up between servicing, I thought only tuned motors used extra oil.
RP, and some other oils for that matter are Ester based (Silkolene is another which I personally use). Mobil 1 is not fully Ester based IIRC but PAO based.
There is research to say that the Ester based oils offer better film strength, temperature resistance and therefore better protection.

Oil consumption will vary between engines, but from what i've read the LS2's can suffer more due to the low friction piston rings that were fitted to reduce drag and increase power.

SimonV8ster

12,576 posts

228 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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And who knows how good their oil is as very few of us take our engines to pieces to inspect it !!

stick100

7,017 posts

168 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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from what i've read in the us they tend to go with what the car makers recommend which on mine said mobil 1 and would prefer to listen to them becouse there the ones who build the engines and spent millions of dollars doing so

after_shock

8,751 posts

220 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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stick100 said:
from what i've read in the us they tend to go with what the car makers recommend which on mine said mobil 1 and would prefer to listen to them becouse there the ones who build the engines and spent millions of dollars doing so


True but ive never known a manufacturer spend that little bit extra to put a better part on when a slightly cheaper one will just say pass the requirements they have.

stick100

7,017 posts

168 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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i work on cars all day as thats my job we work on all sorts of cars from high performance
to your every day shopping car, i have read all bumf about diffrent oils, we do a lot of taxis the ones who use the proper oil that the car makers recomend seem to come to us a lot less then the ones who want to use diffrent oils, i'am not slagging of royal purple
but i can't find any reason to swop and royal purple is not the best to use on the diffs of either a holden like mine or the monaro its to thick

after_shock

8,751 posts

220 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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stick100 said:
i work on cars all day as thats my job we work on all sorts of cars from high performance
to your every day shopping car, i have read all bumf about diffrent oils, we do a lot of taxis the ones who use the proper oil that the car makers recomend seem to come to us a lot less then the ones who want to use diffrent oils, i'am not slagging of royal purple
but i can't find any reason to swop and royal purple is not the best to use on the diffs of either a holden like mine or the monaro its to thick


Thats why in the diffs etc its mixed with a friction modifier when used on these cars.

It very much depends on the car/engine, some engines require a specific all to run correctly and are made with that oil others dont, the fact he majority of ppl on here use the stuff even those with highly tuned cars and the biggest tuner in the u.k recommends it that does enough for me to use the stuff.

snowwolf

11,503 posts

175 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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I used fully synthetic in my landcruiser and had no end of problems with oil leaks around the engine, so never used it again, I have used Mobil 2000 in both the LC and the Ro and pretty good for my standard engine.

monkfish1

11,034 posts

224 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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stick100 said:
i work on cars all day as thats my job we work on all sorts of cars from high performance
to your every day shopping car, i have read all bumf about diffrent oils, we do a lot of taxis the ones who use the proper oil that the car makers recomend seem to come to us a lot less then the ones who want to use diffrent oils, i'am not slagging of royal purple
but i can't find any reason to swop and royal purple is not the best to use on the diffs of either a holden like mine or the monaro its to thick


If you have an R8, stick in some RP and watch the temp drop compared to mobil1. Not marketing hype, just what happens.

mikep7771

806 posts

165 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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monkfish1 said:
If you have an R8, stick in some RP and watch the temp drop compared to mobil1. Not marketing hype, just what happens.
Sounds good & good enough for me..... smile

I've got Valvoline Full Synthetic in the G8 right now, with a Mobil 1 oil filter. But my next oil change will be at Monkfish with Royal Purple Full Synthetic oil and hopefully the 10-48 Royal Purple oil filter.... driving



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eliot

11,418 posts

254 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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monkfish1 said:
If you have an R8, stick in some RP and watch the temp drop compared to mobil1. Not marketing hype, just what happens.
Well given that you have just changed mine last week I'll take a look and see what difference it makes - as I notice mine gets high when giving it some welly.

Edited by eliot on Monday 6th September 09:32

stick100

7,017 posts

168 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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my holden has mobil 1 does not get hot temp is where it should be even when going faster then i should be

essexhsv

792 posts

198 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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snowwolf said:
I have done 13k in last year and it never needed topping up between oil changes


Same here, My Ro doesnt burn a drop of oil and I drive my Ro like i nicked it.

Maybe bouncing off the rev limiter isnt a bad thing after all.

But i never boot the engine until the engine is up to temp, i think thats were most engines burn oil.

I think id be woried if my Ro used 1 liter every 1000 miles