Sagaris asking prices

[PGNSagaris]

Rocco1 said:

When I was researching and looking to buy a Sagaris I was told the purists and collectors will opt for the 4.0 whereas those who intend to drive the car would opt for the 4.3. Never driven a 4.0 but my 4.3 is bonkers rather like a go kart yet on steroids

Edited by Rocco1 on Wednesday 30th January 19:57

and yet I spanked my car 4.0 remorselessly through Europe, on track etc.

[Rocco1]

PGNSagaris said:

and yet I spanked my car 4.0 remorselessly through Europe, on track etc.

I’m sure there are many on here that are familiar with catastrophic engine failures.

[Sagbrit]

The Speed 6 was pretty well sorted by the time the Sag was launched. No doubt a few have let go but I bet the numbers are low

[Rocco1]

And when they do go bang this is what the invoice looks like

[glow worm]

A lot of that bill is nothing to do with a 4.3 upgrade … well some of it … If you had a 4.5, cranksensors and a new MBE ECU you'd know what a real upgrade costs and you didn't pay it … Hollowpockets did
If you drive an engine hard and track it , I think you can't be surprised if something breaks.

Edited by glow worm on Thursday 31st January 18:54

[Rocco1]

glow worm said:

A lot of that bill is nothing to do with a 4.3 upgrade … well some of it … If you had a 4.5, cranksensors and a new MBE ECU you'd know what a real upgrade costs and you didn't pay it … Hollowpockets did
If you drive an engine hard and track it , I think you can't be surprised if something breaks.

Edited by glow worm on Thursday 31st January 18:54

The billing had everything to do with me the price I paid was a contributing factor. What would you know about driving an engine hard all you ever did was polish more polish and polish and eventually cashing in. Let’s be honest here all you did was turn it into a garage queen for the next person!!

Edited by Rocco1 on Thursday 31st January 22:13

[glow worm]

Rocco1 said:

The billing had everything to do with me as the price I paid was a contributing factor. What would you know about driving an engine hard all you ever did was polish more polish and polish and eventually cashing in. Let’s be honest here all you did was turn it into a garage queen for the next person!!

All my cars are Garage Queens … but the Tuscan has the 4.5 … Oh and so does the Chim but that's a V8 … Good Luck

Including my 1 owner BMW E36 328 152k miles 21 years old this year and it doesn't use a single drop of oil and original clutch

Edited by glow worm on Thursday 31st January 20:02

[crimbo]

Would cost half that to build it back to what it was, thats upgraded. You were once able to get a 4.3 rebuild for sub 8 with warranty

[PGNSagaris]

Rocco1 said:

PGNSagaris said:

and yet I spanked my car 4.0 remorselessly through Europe, on track etc.

I’m sure there are many on here that are familiar with catastrophic engine failures.

As was I with my Tuscan but not an issue with most Sags. That 4.3 might well be a nice engine, especially front Str8six but being a modification may actually detract from the value long term

Edited by PGNSagaris on Thursday 31st January 22:25

[Rocco1]

PGNSagaris said:

As was I with my Tuscan but not an issue with most Sags. That 4.3 might well be a nice engine, especially front Str8six but being a modification may actually detract from the value long term

Edited by PGNSagaris on Thursday 31st January 22:25

After speaking to a number of tvr specialists the 4.3 engine is well received by those seeking to buy a Sag

[tvrtuscans]

Very interesting thread. Steve, so have you still got your T350?

[phoenixz]

Rocco1 said:

After speaking to a number of tvr specialists the 4.3 engine is well received by those seeking to buy a Sag

I agree with this entirely. I am not aware of anyone that was hell bent on a pureist 4.0 or turned down a car purely because it had the 4.3

Although it is undeniable that the Sag had many improvements geared towards reliability, the factory engines were still not problem free. The 4.3 conversion is a rebuild with extra steps, but it is still a rebuild. The clever money for me would be on an example that has had the engine rebuilt recently, rather than a low mileage untouched since factory version.

That being said, i think the 4.5 is pushing the boat out a little and i would not pay a premium for a 4.3 version. I intend no offence at all Rocco, when i say that your car was driven back to back with mine and the difference was negligible. So when it came to rebuilding mine, and after much research and discussions, the decision was made to spend the money on upgrades elsewhere.
Again, nothing against your car at all, but the 4.3 did not justify the additional cost for me. It does look good on paper though and definitely not something that would devalue.

Were i you, i would be making a much bigger deal of the colour. The Reflex Burnt Orange (i have forgotten the actual name for the colour of your Sag) is much more sought after and prized amongst buyers.
Again, there is a reason that 5 of the 7 Sagari (Sagarises, Sagaris's...) for sale just now are Silver/Grey.

[PuffsBack]

[quote=phoenixz]


Were i you, i would be making a much bigger deal of the colour. The Reflex Burnt Orange (i have forgotten the actual name for the colour of your Sag) is much more sought after and prized amongst buyers.
/quote]


Its Chameleon Orange - and if true that's just cheered my evening up

I know it was the press car colour and is pretty loud but it does really need sunlight on it to bring out the gold. I have to admit when I bought mine I held off looking at it for a while as orange wasn't to my taste and the car was for sale 300 miles away. However when Heath at X Works rolled it out the garage it was been stored in however I was sold!

But god does it attract attention!

Edited by PuffsBack on Friday 1st February 19:13

[PuffsBack]

Time for a pic!

[Rocco1]

PuffsBack said:

Time for a pic!

I saw your car at Heaths looked very nice

[anonymous-user]

Its winter and there is an uncertain feel about the economy. It's not only rare desirable sports cars/toys that aren't selling.


They'll be back at silly money in 18 months.

[Rocco1]

TVRMs said:

Its winter and there is an uncertain feel about the economy. It's not only rare desirable sports cars/toys that aren't selling.



They'll be back at silly money in 18 months.

Just the words owners like to hear

Edited by Rocco1 on Saturday 2nd February 15:59

[7 TVR]

Love reading these threads, just for the record i was happy to pay a premium for every upgrade on every TVR I've ever owned
Especially the str8six 4.3 which is just epic when on song!

[tvrtuscans]

So....Amore Auto’s has a Sagaris advertised for £105k. First time over £100k? Photo’s aren’t exactly of ‘David Bailey’ quality but thoughts anyone?

[ianwayne]

It's heavily modified with an LS engine and chassis bracing. Far from standard but very low mileage. Not for the 'collector' but wow for the performance. Hard to value?:

https://www.amoreautos.co.uk/car-listings/2009-sag...