Sagaris on Collecting Cars next week

Sagaris on Collecting Cars next week

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Clockwork Cupcake

74,510 posts

272 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Don1 said:
Don't lower your reserve, they will ask if it's getting close. They make money when it sells...
yes


ray von

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252 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Looks like theres at least 3 dealers with bids in

Clockwork Cupcake

74,510 posts

272 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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ray von said:
Looks like theres at least 3 dealers with bids in
I hope it sells privately to an enthusiast.

Although I can understand that many private buyers might be put off, and might prefer to buy from a dealer. But they will have to pay quite the premium for that privilege I think.

ray von

2,914 posts

252 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
I hope it sells privately to an enthusiast.

Although I can understand that many private buyers might be put off, and might prefer to buy from a dealer. But they will have to pay quite the premium for that privilege I think.
yes Without a doubt. If only you'd looked in the wanted ads before putting the car up wink



W111AAM

649 posts

232 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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A yellow Sag now on CC. Coming soon.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2005-tvr-sagar...

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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ray von said:
Looks like theres at least 3 dealers with bids in
I’m not a dealer - but at the time of posting I am the highest bidder.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,510 posts

272 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Wilmslowboy said:
I’m not a dealer - but at the time of posting I am the highest bidder.
A fellow ex-Corrado owner! wavey

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
A fellow ex-Corrado owner! wavey
Last drove one 25 years ago, just a 1.8 16v but loved it.


BURNIE

1,152 posts

240 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I have requested a viewing but nothing back from CC. 🙄
ITS a pity because I'm looking for a new motor. 🤔
60k is a lot of money to spend plus £3600 fees🤑🤑🤑
But I'm sure a dealer will pick it up

Clockwork Cupcake

74,510 posts

272 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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BURNIE said:
I have requested a viewing but nothing back from CC.
ITS a pity because I'm looking for a new motor.
60k is a lot of money to spend plus £3600 fees
But I'm sure a dealer will pick it up
The request has not been passed on to me.

Incidentally, a recent buying guide for the Sagaris by Autocar (published February 2021) says to expect to pay "at least £65k" for one.
(That'll be a completely standard one, of course. It won't have a FFF2 head or Syvecs, etc.)



Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Tuesday 20th April 00:54

ray von

2,914 posts

252 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Wilmslowboy said:
ray von said:
Looks like theres at least 3 dealers with bids in
I’m not a dealer - but at the time of posting I am the highest bidder.
confused Didn't say you were

W111AAM said:
A yellow Sag now on CC. Coming soon.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2005-tvr-sagar...
That ones been up for sale for ages, last on Autotrader for sub £65 a couple of weeks ago

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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ray von said:
Wilmslowboy said:
ray von said:
Looks like theres at least 3 dealers with bids in
I’m not a dealer - but at the time of posting I am the highest bidder.
confused Didn't say you were
biggrin

I did not say you said you did (or something like that)

Hopefully it will sell to an enthusiast, not sure I can compete with a bidder with a username if F12TDF


ray von

2,914 posts

252 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Wilmslowboy said:
biggrin

I did not say you said you did (or something like that)

Hopefully it will sell to an enthusiast, not sure I can compete with a bidder with a username if F12TDF
thumbup Good luck with your bidding. Collecting cars certainly seems, to me anyway, a strange way to sell and buy cars but each to their own.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,510 posts

272 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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ray von said:
Collecting cars certainly seems, to me anyway, a strange way to sell and buy cars but each to their own.
As a seller, it works for me. It is a halfway house between private sale, brokerage, and a full auction house.

The 6% buyer's fee my seem a little steep but if you look at a bricks & mortar auction house there will be a seller's fee, a buyer's fee, a completion fee, a fee fee, a fee-fi-fo-fum fee, a we-just-thought-of-another fee, and then VAT on the fees, and all sorts. On some of the antiques auctions I look at, the buyer's fees can add up to around 27% although I accept that car auctions are maybe different (I've never been to one).

Anyway, it suited me to go this way.


Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Tuesday 20th April 10:30

Getsis

1,537 posts

216 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Why not split the "buyers fee" between the purchaser and buyer, so you have a 3% buyer fee and 3% seller fee makes better sense to auction a car that way.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,510 posts

272 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Getsis said:
Why not split the "buyers fee" between the purchaser and buyer, so you have a 3% buyer fee and 3% seller fee makes better sense to auction a car that way.
I don't know. I guess Collecting Cars want to attract sellers with the promise of no seller's fees. It's an illusion though, as the seller ends up paying the fee anyway as buyers will take the fee into account when bidding. So it's largely academic really.

Gladers01

591 posts

48 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Getsis said:
Why not split the "buyers fee" between the purchaser and buyer, so you have a 3% buyer fee and 3% seller fee makes better sense to auction a car that way.
I don't know. I guess Collecting Cars want to attract sellers with the promise of no seller's fees. It's an illusion though, as the seller ends up paying the fee anyway as buyers will take the fee into account when bidding. So it's largely academic really.
You've not done bad there if you bought in the late £30ks, i did the same with Tuscans to a lesser extent, you expect the value to drop being second hand and they increase in value which is an unexpected pleasant surprise, although it must still be a wrench to part with after owning the car for all those years.

No reserve yet, how exciting! smile

Clockwork Cupcake

74,510 posts

272 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Gladers01 said:
You've not done bad there if you bought in the late £30ks, i did the same with Tuscans to a lesser extent, you expect the value to drop being second hand and they increase in value which is an unexpected pleasant surprise, although it must still be a wrench to part with after owning the car for all those years.
True, although I have spent a lot of money on it over the years. But, yes, I think I might (or might not) break even, not counting inflation etc.

I'll be a little miffed if it goes for less than market value, especially given the FFF2 head, Syvecs, and other upgrades, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

It's definitely been a tough decision to sell, and I have had some amazing experiences with it, but it is time to move on. I'm simply not driving it enough to justify keeping it, and I would rather it went to someone who will drive it and have their own amazing experiences with it.

RFC1

1,107 posts

197 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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I must be missing something here, but why would anyone pay "dealer" prices or anywhere near them for a car on this auction site ????.
It look ( the biding) as dodgy as fucck to me.

Edited by RFC1 on Tuesday 20th April 21:07

Wilmslowboy

4,208 posts

206 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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RFC1 said:
I must be missing something here, but why would anyone pay "dealer" prices or anywhere near them for a car on this auction site ????.
It look ( the biding) as dodgy as fucck to me.
Genuinely why do you think it’s dodgy ?

I’m currently the under bidder, bids are still 20% away from dealer prices - cheers