V8 Vantage - what's it really like?

V8 Vantage - what's it really like?

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avinalarf

6,438 posts

142 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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Jon39 said:
avinalarf said:
I was also concentrating on the format of the book I am writing.

I think I have now found a suitable topic.


Do you think there will be much demand for your new book, 'Ladyboys in 50 Shades of Blue'?

The Booker prize, might be possible though.

Anyway, best of luck. Are you a famous author already?

( Sorry OP. Off topic again. )









Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 27th June 16:10

avinalarf

6,438 posts

142 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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avinalarf said:
Jon39 said:
avinalarf said:
I was also concentrating on the format of the book I am writing.

I think I have now found a suitable topic.


Do you think there will be much demand for your new book, 'Ladyboys in 50 Shades of Blue'?

The Booker prize, might be possible though.

Anyway, best of luck. Are you a famous author already?

( Sorry OP. Off topic again. )
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 27th June 16:10
Not yet a famous author......just famous.
I take it your suggestion as to the subject matter of my book was written in jest.
Notwithstanding although,at this stage,I cannot reveal too much I will offer the teaser that it will be a treatise on the metaphysical evolution of Mankind and the Universe.

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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avinalarf said:
avinalarf said:
Jon39 said:
avinalarf said:
I was also concentrating on the format of the book I am writing.

I think I have now found a suitable topic.


Do you think there will be much demand for your new book, 'Ladyboys in 50 Shades of Blue'?

The Booker prize, might be possible though.

Anyway, best of luck. Are you a famous author already?

( Sorry OP. Off topic again. )
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 27th June 16:10
Not yet a famous author......just famous.
I take it your suggestion as to the subject matter of my book was written in jest.
Notwithstanding although,at this stage,I cannot reveal too much I will offer the teaser that it will be a treatise on the metaphysical evolution of Mankind and the Universe.
You two are just being silly now...

Interestingly though and almost on the subject of hedges, this morning my next door neighbour asked me if I'd have time this week to trim her bush scratchchin

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 27th June 2017
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You know the rules. Photos or it never happened smile

davek_964

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8,816 posts

175 months

Monday 14th August 2017
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So, a couple of weeks ago I decided : Enough is enough, I have too many cars and one of them needs to go.

However, contrary to my earlier posts - I wasn't willing to sell the Aston. I therefore visited a dealer to get a ballpark figure for the 360 (which with hindsight was too low) and put the Ferrari up for sale.
It attracted immediate interest - enough so that it scared me to death, I refused to let anybody view it and withdrew the ad from sale. So for now, I have 4 cars and I'm keeping 4 cars. I will reconsider after spring, when the Ferrari has had its major service (the cost of which may be enough to cause a new "for sale" ad anyway).

Having secured itself for the foreseeable future, the Aston has behaved itself. Mileage is still creeping up but no problems to report. I do think that the door stays don't keep the doors open as well as they should so may look at that at some point.

I tend to open up my sat nav every couple of months even if I don't need to - bit of an OCD thing to make sure it hasn't secretly stopped working. When I tried that at the weekend, it only opened about 80%. A quick push solved that, and repeated closing / opening didn't repeat the problem so hopefully it was a one off - maybe there was something caught in the gears. If it does fail, I suspect a car cradle and google maps might be the solution I choose.

At the weekend, I did replace all the brake pads. It was really a bit early to do the fronts - probably a good 5mm on them and they only looked about 60% worn next to new pads. But the rears definitely needed doing and it seemed simpler to just do the entire set. I did order handbrake pads too, but didn't have time to fit them (I've read that you need to disconnect the drive shaft for some reason) - and in fact may not bother anyway. The new handbrake pads had a lot less material than I expected which makes me think the old ones are less worn than I thought.
I went for EBC Red Stuff pads - simply because they were available at a reasonable price and I couldn't get anything else (BMG couldn't get me front and rears). Didn't need new sensors - think the front + rear + handbrake pads were just under £300 with vat.
Fitting was easy - a couple of hours in total, including being interrupted by a neighbour for 20 mins. The driver side rear pins were reluctant to move and did get me nervous - but a few decent whacks with the hammer and they shifted. Other calipers were much easier.
The EBCs come with anti-squeal shims, and some lube for the back of the pads. I usually use coppaslip - but this time decided to try using the Euro Car Parts Ceratek(SP?) that I bought recently. I figured that with anti-squeal shims, ceratek on the back of the pads and the fact that the edges of the pads are very chamfered - I wouldn't have a problem with noisy brakes.
Turns out I was wrong. The squealing was absolutely horrendous - at very light and even fairly moderate braking - it was LOUD. It seemed likely I would need to take the pads out and try coppaslip (or the stuff that came in the box with the pads) - but first, I tried a jaunt down a dual carriageway with some reasonably hard braking a few times.
By the time I got home, the brakes were silent. Whether that's because the problem is cured - or, more likely - because they only squeal when cold - I don't know. I didn't have a chance to use the Aston again over the weekend so I'll find out the next time I get the chance.

I was a bit surprised that my front tyres didn't look like they had a huge amount of tread on them - which, considering I only just bought tyres - was a surprise. The rears still had loads of tread left so not sure if the fronts were just lower to start with, or the Michelin PS4s are going to wear out in about 2k miles!

Overall, I'm still a happy owner and have no immediate plans to sell. At some point, I guess I'll find I need a new clutch - and then I might become a rather less happy owner - but I'm still liking this car a lot.


Edited by davek_964 on Monday 14th August 13:29

Murph7355

37,714 posts

256 months

Monday 14th August 2017
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davek_964 said:
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I tend to open up my sat nav every couple of months even if I don't need to - bit of an OCD thing to make sure it hasn't secretly stopped working. When I tried that at the weekend, it only opened about 80%. A quick push solved that, and repeated closing / opening didn't repeat the problem so hopefully it was a one off - maybe there was something caught in the gears. If it does fail, I suspect a car cradle and google maps might be the solution I choose.
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If it ever fails the fix is cheap and simple.

https://astonmartinbits.com/models/5-V8-Vantage/pa...

Though IIRC it's actually cheaper by a few quid bought direct.

Takes about 30mins to install it. Say an hour with a drinks break.

davek_964

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8,816 posts

175 months

Monday 14th August 2017
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Murph7355 said:
If it ever fails the fix is cheap and simple.

https://astonmartinbits.com/models/5-V8-Vantage/pa...

Though IIRC it's actually cheaper by a few quid bought direct.

Takes about 30mins to install it. Say an hour with a drinks break.
Thanks. That's good to know.

Bobajobbob

1,440 posts

96 months

Monday 14th August 2017
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[quote=Jon39
I am trying to cut a hedge this afternoon. Am not very good at it though.
My gardener sent a text to me from Glastonbury, saying he does not want to be employed any more by a bourgeoisie capitalist, and is going on the dole.
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 27th June 16:10

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Damn cheek. He’ll be back when he gets hungry. When he does make sure you sack him and offer to re-hire but at a significant discount due to deflationary pressure caused by a post Glasto oversupply in the grass management technician space.

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Monday 14th August 2017
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Bobajobbob said:
Jon39 said:
I am trying to cut a hedge this afternoon. Am not very good at it though.
My gardener sent a text to me from Glastonbury, saying he does not want to be employed any more by a bourgeoisie capitalist, and is going on the dole.
Damn cheek. He’ll be back when he gets hungry. When he does make sure you sack him and offer to re-hire but at a significant discount due to deflationary pressure caused by a post Glasto oversupply in the grass management technician space.

Very good. Glad that you got my joke, Bobajobbob.

The event was a while ago now, so we have almost forgotten which politician gave a speech, at the Glastonbury Music Festival.









davek_964

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8,816 posts

175 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Minor maintenance today, having discovered yesterday that when I put my handbrake on - on a very slight incline - the car started edging backwards. Handbrake lever was coming up fairly high and I suspect only really holding one wheel. Simple to adjust, instructions here :

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=12...

I put the handbrake on two clicks, then tightened the adjuster as much as I could by hand (I.e not using a spanner) and made sure it was beginning to bind on both wheels - car could not easily be moved by hand. Released the handbrake and proved the car moved freely, then tightened the lock nuts.

It does annoy me that despite keeping up the servicing - which is hardly cheap - I am 99% sure that the handbrake has never been adjusted as part of the service for either the Aston or the Ferrari. Which makes me wonder what they do actually do.

Shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Useful to know as I think mine is high so will tighten it this weekend.

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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Shnozz said:
Useful to know as I think mine is high so will tighten it this weekend.
Ditto!! thumbup

cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Thursday 31st August 2017
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ChilliWhizz said:
You two are just being silly now...

Interestingly though and almost on the subject of hedges, this morning my next door neighbour asked me if I'd have time this week to trim her bush scratchchin
Any Pictures?

davek_964

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8,816 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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I mentioned in my last post that I open the sat nav periodically to check it still works, and that it had taken two attempts. Last weekend I tried it again, and it no longer moved at all.

I ordered the new gears from Aston Bits (almost £30 with postage) and fixed it today. I used this thread for instructions:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=13...

Removal of the ski slope is very easy and is a 5 minute job. Once I'd disconnected the sat nav lid (on my car, two springy bits of wire attached to the nav unit simply hook into the lid) I opened the lid slightly, grabbed the ski slope and pulled (I used the leather next to it as leverage with my thumb). A couple of electrical wires, and it's done.

Replacing the gears was also easy.

When I reassembled the car I found that the lid was having problems. Removing the ski slope again showed me that where the pins of the lid slot into u shaped holes, one of them seemed to be a bit less of a 'u' which allows the pin to start coming out.
I don't see how I broke that, since you don't go anywhere near that when disconnecting the lid from the sat nav - and disconnecting the sat nav from the lid was hardly difficult.
I manufactured a repair with part of a cable clip (since it was curved) and some super glue. I'm not sure how permanent it will be, but if not I will attempt some plastic welding. That's definitely preferable to buying a new ski slope for such a minor issue.

Without the lid problem, the repair was probably between an hour and an hour and a half - very little of that is the time taking the sat nav out of the car, it's just fiddly getting to the gears and replacing them. But not hard.

The weekend I found that the sat nav had failed was also the weekend I found my passenger window wasn't dropping when the door was opened. A quick reset procedure solved it.

Apart from that, the car has been problem free. The new brake pads work well and are quiet. How much it will get used over the winter I'm not sure - I suspect it will be more than the ferrari and the Alfa spider - but this year, I do seem to want to use the Cayenne now the mornings are dark!

macdeb

8,510 posts

255 months

Saturday 28th October 2017
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Vantage, what it's like? Gives you permanent neck ache as you just have to keep glancing back at it. Then there's the middle of the night moments when you ask, 'is it really mine?' Then you just sit in it and look, Then you go and start it up,, All this before it's turned a wheel, cloud9

davek_964

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8,816 posts

175 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I noticed a link to this in another thread, which reminded me that it's time for an update. Although there isn't a great deal to say.

As winter has arrived, I've used the car much less. Last year, I used the Vantage much more than I expected and it seemed to be the Cayenne that was sitting on the road hardly used. But the purchase of the Alfa Spider in March seems to have shifted my focus, since I now have two "daily" cars (Cayenne and Alfa) so feel I really should be using at least one of them for work. And since the Spider isn't ideal in winter, the Cayenne seems to have become the car of choice at the moment.

Especially since the heated seat on the Vantage has stopped working. I always found it fairly useless anyway (a single heat setting which seemed to be about a million degrees) so haven't worried about it too much. I did check the fuse for "driver seat electrics" - which wasn't blown. However, I know from previous experience that my handbook doesn't always list the correct fuse number. However - electric controls work, and the indicator lights up on the switch for the heated seat so I didn't really think it was a fuse anyway.
Will need to look properly but will probably wait until Spring since it's not that pleasant working on the car when it's parked on a drive in January. Service is due in a couple of months anyway - maybe I'll ask them to take a quick look.

I've used the sat nav once since fixing it, and the fix seems to be working fine. I haven't felt the need to keep checking its working, which suggests that I trust my engineering skills more than AM - which seems rather misplaced.

I am still very happy with the car, however 2018 might be a year of change - I'm not sure yet. I go through phases of thinking I spend too much on cars, and have felt like I've been in one of those phases for about a year, even though I've done nothing about it. So I'm thinking I need to reduce the number of cars I own.
It's actually quite interesting when you look at what it really costs to run "expensive" cars like this. I find it surprisingly tempting to be semi-sensible : sell the 360, sell the Vantage, sell the Alfa Spider. Buy a new MX5 (like the shape, and the Alfa has convinced me I like convertibles) and maybe replace the Cayenne with a slightly newer one. Nice new fun car, all under warranty, cheap servicing etc. etc. But - depreciation is a killer - over a couple of years, a new MX5 would cost me more - in real terms - than the Ferrari or Vantage would to run in the same period. In fact, unless I have a couple of bad years on both cars, it's probably not far from the two combined! Admittedly road tax / insurance etc. are cheaper on an MX5 - but the 360 is pre-2006 anyway so is only ~£300 to tax and I'm old enough that insurance isn't so bad.

So - it seems unlikely the Aston will be partially replaced with a new MX5. But the other alternative going through my mind at the moment is : Sell the Alfa, sell the Aston, sell the Ferrari and buy a Vantage Roadster. It would be nice to keep the Ferrari too, but would mean sinking an additional ~£20k into cars, and I'm not sure I really want to do that.
So we'll see how this year goes. Nothing drives like the 360 - however, if I do decide to reduce cars, I think I'd rather have a soft top Vantage that I can use much more often than to lose the Vantage and keep the 360. The downside of course is that manual roadsters are not very common - and manual roadsters in a colour I'd want are even less common. But once spring is here and the servicing on my cars is up to date, I may start seriously browsing.....

davek_964

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8,816 posts

175 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Although it hasn't been long since the last one, a brief update since there are a few things to mention.

I booked the car in for its service today - although that won't actually happen until the first week in March, Spellbound (the indy I use in Farnham) mailed me to remind me that they're offering 15% discount on labour for any cars where the booking is made before the end of January. Can't argue with a 15% discount, so called them today.
Apparently the car is due a 10 year / 100k service - which is slightly odd since it's 12 years old - but in the last 2 years it had 8 & 9 year services so I guess it makes sense.

And, it needs a service since it feels like it's started falling apart! I mentioned that the heated seat didn't seem to work anymore - I need to test this properly, and see if the passenger seat works. I asked for it to be checked as part of the service in case I don't get around to it. If it is simply the heating part of the seat - and unless that is a lot cheaper to replace than I expect - I may ignore it considering it isn't the greatest anyway.

I also think the heated windscreen isn't working - it took ages to demist yesterday and was no quicker than my other cars. Checked the fuses which are fine, so will carry out some more testing - I know I can test for power at the windscreen connector so I will try to get that done in the next month. Again, if I fail - or don't find the cause - they can check it at the service.

The belt has also started squeaking which is really annoying - and a tad embarrassing. It means I have to rev the car more so the exhaust drowns out the squeak......

Usually, I get the cars MOT'd at the same time as the service. However, I feel I got caught out with the 360 last year where I was told that I needed brake pads for the MOT - even though I'm sure I didn't - which meant that I ended up paying £100+ an hour for a job I can very easily do myself (note : this was not at Spellbound).
So this time, I will try to get an MOT the week before the service. If it fails - and it's not something I can easily fix myself - then it can be sorted at the service, and they can MOT it too.
Hopefully, the service bill won't be expensive - the 15% discount should compensate for the extra investigations.

justin220

5,339 posts

204 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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I enjoy reading your updates!

I've got a manual roadster (n420) which I might be looking to sell this year.

Also, does your V8 definitely have a heated windscreen as I don't think mine does?

davek_964

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8,816 posts

175 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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justin220 said:
I enjoy reading your updates!

I've got a manual roadster (n420) which I might be looking to sell this year.

Also, does your V8 definitely have a heated windscreen as I don't think mine does?
It does yes - I believe the heated windscreen stopped being an option when they moved the aerial into the windscreen (think this was done as part of the 4.7 changes?).

When I bought the car, only the passenger side worked. Fortunately, some chips on the driver side meant I needed a new windscreen wink

It definitely worked last winter - and it's unlikely both sides of the windscreen have failed at the same time - so I need to investigate it really.

S1-NOS

114 posts

76 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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My MY07 coupe has the heated screen also (never tried it though). Definitely an optional extra.