V12 Vantage tyres

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tipmethewink

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144 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Hello, I've run my current tyres as far as they'll legally go and have just been trying to get some new ones. However, it turns out there's a Europe wide drought in P Zero's for the Vantage. One tyre dealer's told me 6 weeks and my nearest AM dealer has said that there's only one set in the country but the dealer's charging £50 extra as they're the only ones left. Given the time of year and the way I drive I've no interest in Corsas which do seem to be available. The AM dealer told me they couldn't supply anything else so What alternatives are there? Seems a remarkable situation to be in. Thanks.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,612 posts

176 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Why wouldn't you use the very highly regarded Michelin PSS (unless they are unavailable too)?

tipmethewink

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14 posts

144 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Ignorance really, that's why I'm asking the question. I'll have a look, thanks for the reply.

cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
Why wouldn't you use the very highly regarded Michelin PSS (unless they are unavailable too)?
These are some on here who have changed to these and seem happy with them.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
Why wouldn't you use the very highly regarded Michelin PSS (unless they are unavailable too)?
yes I've done 4ok miles in 18 months on PSS's in different cars
Bloody great tyre, loved them on my V8VS, I have P Zeros on the McLaren - not a fan at this point frown

AdamV12V

5,012 posts

177 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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I've just replaced the original P Zero Corsa's with a full set of P Zero's after 8000 miles and I have to say I am quite impressed so far - huge improvement in grip in at this time of year. I believe the normal P Zero are the only other officially recommended tyre - not sure why your AM dealer is telling you there are no other options.

I was rather pleasantly surprised at the cost too - supplied and fitted by JCT600, Leeds. smile

I'm sure they Michelin PSS is a damn good tyre too - but I don't believe it is an official tyre, which may or may not bother you of course.

tipmethewink

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14 posts

144 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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Hello Adam, the current tyres are the normal P-Zeros and it's those everyone's telling me they've run out of. Mine've covered 8k and I didn't think they were brilliant but put it down to big feet and big engines. I'm inclined to try the Michelin just to see how they compare and not just because the PZ's not available. Thanks for the replies.

EvoOlli

605 posts

163 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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AdamV12V said:
I'm sure they Michelin PSS is a damn good tyre too - but I don't believe it is an official tyre, which may or may not bother you of course.
So someone would stick to Pirelli because Aston Martin says that only Pirelli is the official tyre ? I could understand that on other parts of the car, but tyre technology is constantly improving and I would go with the newest developments.

BTW, the new GT12 runs on Michelin Supersport.

tipmethewink

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14 posts

144 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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Nope! No Michelins either for at least two weeks. Better than six though.

Jon39

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143 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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tipmethewink said:
... the current tyres are the normal P-Zeros and it's those everyone's telling me they've run out of.

If there is a serious supply shortage, what will the factory be doing / using?

I seem to remember that a Michelin tyre is used on the GT12, rather than their previously favoured Pirelli for the V12 and Bridgestone for the V8.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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Well regardless of the discussions over Michelin or pirelli, corsa or not, etc I just checked on Blackcircles.com and they appear to have in stock P zeros, not corsa, in am8 spec, at around £800 all in fitted for a set of 4 - I would NEVER get the Aston dealer to fit tyres, they normally work out between 75% and 150% more expensive than the best deals available elsewhere


tipmethewink

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144 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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Ooh, I'll see what happens, thanks.

DAVIDOXE

494 posts

114 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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Dealer £1740.00 for AM8s
ATS £810.00 for same tyres plus £70.00 M & S voucher for buying 4!
Exactly 1K cheaper for same tyres

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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DAVIDOXE said:
Dealer £1740.00 for AM8s
ATS £810.00 for same tyres plus £70.00 M & S voucher for buying 4!
Exactly 1K cheaper for same tyres
Not remotely surprising, still shocking and worth bearing in mind that I understand the dealers have to buy from AML and they pay substantially more to AML than ATS or anyone else sells them for. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if AML pay more than £810 to buy them in and that's before allowing for their margin or the dealers

tipmethewink

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14 posts

144 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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Well, I've ordered the Michelins from Black Circles (thanks for the tip off). Fingers crossed they don't ring up and say they don't actually have them but I spoke to them and they assured me if it's on the website it's in stock. As for the dealer prices, I was quoted £50 more per tyre for the P-Zeros than I would have been able to get them for from Black Circles so not all dealers are equal but admittedly, you'd still be daft to pay it unless you were desperate.

GT Two

3,070 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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I have Michelin PSS on mine and the difference to the Corsa is quite noticeable, none of that squishy feeling on acceleration out of a corner and much much better cold grip.

In the wet the difference is massive.

AdamV12V

5,012 posts

177 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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jonby said:
Well regardless of the discussions over Michelin or pirelli, corsa or not, etc I just checked on Blackcircles.com and they appear to have in stock P zeros, not corsa, in am8 spec, at around £800 all in fitted for a set of 4 - I would NEVER get the Aston dealer to fit tyres, they normally work out between 75% and 150% more expensive than the best deals available elsewhere
I paid £815 fitted for a full set of four at JCT600 just 10 days ago, so not all AM dealers are expensive! They ordered them in specifically for me just 3 days before, so at that point stock wasn't a problem.

cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th October 2015
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AdamV12V said:
I paid £815 fitted for a full set of four at JCT600 just 10 days ago, so not all AM dealers are expensive! They ordered them in specifically for me just 3 days before, so at that point stock wasn't a problem.
Thats an excellent price Adam.

ds2000

2,685 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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GT Two said:
I have Michelin PSS on mine and the difference to the Corsa is quite noticeable, none of that squishy feeling on acceleration out of a corner and much much better cold grip.

In the wet the difference is massive.
I'm switching to these next year as well. The dealer sadly fitted new Corsas to the rear of mine last year when I took delivery so I best get on some track days and destroy them biggrin

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 28th October 2015
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cayman-black said:
AdamV12V said:
I paid £815 fitted for a full set of four at JCT600 just 10 days ago, so not all AM dealers are expensive! They ordered them in specifically for me just 3 days before, so at that point stock wasn't a problem.
Thats an excellent price Adam.
agreed and surprising. To be fair, I've not been quoted for pzeros by my dealer, only corsas (which confusingly are of course also pzeros), but I believe them when they say that they base their price on what AML charge them. I am going to guess that JCT did not buy the tyres through AML, which begs the question why Wilmslow don't and furthermore, whether the factory attempt to insist dealers only buy through them