Wishbone bushes

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craig elam

130 posts

126 months

Friday 29th April 2016
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david and graham ,

the splitter was a "blue point" clamp type , i did give it some force but gave up as any more may of damaged the upright,
im sure it was the heat from the angle grinder cutting the pin (after removing dust boot and grease)that released it, the only way i can see to apply heat safely to the part of the upright which receives the tapered pin is if you have an induction heat tool you could try heating the balljoints thread , i had read somewhere that this joint was very difficult to separate almost always requiring the upright be replaced, so unless you can split the bottom balljoint from the upright the most economical route is to chop the balljoint and buy a wishbone.
im pretty sure the rear bush is the tranny one , and the ball joint looks pretty standard although i havent identified it, the wishbone itself is a lovely AM specific casting of a robust design.( when i picked the new one up i was in two minds to hang it on my wall as art).
Like a few others on our forum i spend my life fixing cars , when i first saw the wishbone i thought theres 500+ quid.
at 260 odd plus VAT i dont think its out, plus its complete with both bushes and balljoint, im not saying its not worth reconditioning the old one,the only way i can afford to run a db9 is because i do the majority of the maintenance, I love developing repair methods and fixing the unfixable so good luck to anyone giving it a try.




matrignano

4,365 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Hi, any news on this?
Some of my bushes are starting to go!

craig elam

130 posts

126 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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hello guido
I dont know if anybody took the reconditioning option any further, If the lower wishbones are still sub £300 i think there reasonably priced, it starts to get expensive when the upright wont separate @£500 a go.

craig


spmcevoy

16 posts

102 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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craig elam said:
just replaced RH lower wishbone on my 2005 DB9,.... the ungettable bush was surprise surprise maked FORD YC15-3A262-A and is a transit part.
I am having a similar 'creak' from my 05 DB9 suspension as I go over a speed bump or any real bump in the road. Sounds like bushes.

Craig elam - did you only need to service the front bush on the lower control arm as the solution for yours? Or do you think it was the lower ball joint too? Do you think that ford part could just be press fit into the AM original arm? Did you change the upper control arm too? The creak in mine seems to come from the upper.

Any input would be appreciated....

craig elam

130 posts

126 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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hello steve

I had a seized castor bolt (which runs through the rear bush) and had to cut the wishbone off!!!, my initial plan was to identify / replace the rear bush and castor bolt, however the ball joint was impossible to split from upright and had to be cut in order to free the upright .if the upright had separated from the ball joint i could have gone down the refurb route but wanted to get back on the road. I really think the old bush could be replaced and the ball joint.
At that point i found the lower arm came with bushes and ball joint as a complete unit at 275+vat which i thought quite reasonable the guy at the dealers parts department said "if that had been a ferrari it would have been easy double that"
i think the creak / cracking noise was ball joint although its hard to find exactly where it came from , im pretty sure it wasnt the upper wishbone ( these noises can travel around the suspension and give a completely false indication)
An interesting point, i got my car with 16,000 miles on the clock and it creaked and cracked like hell when manoeuvring.
Ive still got my old R/H wishbone if anybody wants it to experiment with ,you can pick it up in sunny west yorkshire!

yourtheguy

146 posts

145 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Hi Craig, just read this post, could have saved you a few quid I've got 2 new uprights with hubs paid under 200 quid off flea bay.
I have 2 questions for you what ever happened about the power flex bushes did any get made?
Secondly the ball joint in the wishbones are the pressed into the wishbone or are they cast in?
I haven't got any problems yet but my V8V has been stood on the drive for 4 months so I think a bit of TLC is due plus she's done 96k and last time I looked all the arms seemed original.

Cheers Dixie.

JonnyCJ

1,309 posts

54 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Resurrecting an old thread in the interests of adding to the list of generic parts that will save a few £££

£9 for a top quality replacement bush plus pressing in, or £300 for a new wishbone ?

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/6c163a262a...

paulrog1

989 posts

141 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Hi Jonny, that's absolutely fantastic, brilliant find, i'll add it to my parts topic if thats ok??

Are they just the front lower wishbone bushes or will they fit in any other suspension arms?


Edited by paulrog1 on Thursday 9th July 20:46

BigMig

205 posts

111 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Which bush positions are they for Jonny? I seem to recall the inboard and outboard bushes on the rear wishbones were 2 different items?

JonnyCJ

1,309 posts

54 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Hi James - this seems to be front lower suspension arms, but needs some more investigating. Our Sport Pack cars have slightly different front suspension, so it needs a bit of time on Scuderia to work out exactly what’s what.

Luckily all my front suspension is off and soaking in XCO Rust blocker after being vapour blasted, so seems like a good opportunity to do some digging.

I’ve also emailed Dave at Powerflex as he has/had a V12V to see where they’re up to in terms of replacement bushes for Vantages.

Watch this space and if anyone else fancies some digging go for it. The more eyes on these things the better.

Edited by JonnyCJ on Friday 10th July 09:34

drac

354 posts

223 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Differences between sports pack and standard.
Are the arms different or is it just the bushings are firmer on the sport pack cars?

I did read that the very early cars had different arms with different bump steer characteristics.

JonnyCJ

1,309 posts

54 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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Powerflex fully on the case - so let's see what they come up with. Not sure on time scale, but they are currently working on it.

chunkster-deluxe

26 posts

190 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Does anyone know if powerflex have progressed with this now?

JonnyCJ

1,309 posts

54 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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I spoke to Dave Power (by email) in late August. They're still working on it, but won't harm for other people to enquire, so that he knows there's pent up demand.

Valiant-Ecosse

553 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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David has a set of my arms I lent them to allow the development. Had them for a while now but seems to still be on the case, I know they have been struggling through corona.

Ill post as soon as I hear anything new.

paulrog1

989 posts

141 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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It would be really good if they developed a product for us, it would save us hundreds in the future.

Fingers crossed.

leerandle

743 posts

107 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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I'd definitely be interested in being able to replace bushes and not the whole assembly.

Save my money to upgrade the dampers then !!

Jonathank56

64 posts

45 months

Monday 19th October 2020
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My nearside front control arm is creaking when I go over speed bumps so I'd like to add my name to the 'bush' list. Seems crazy to just throw away perfectly good components just because they cant be refurbished. I'm guessing you've all seen this?

https://youtu.be/0JQt9kDHb7M

Edited by Jonathank56 on Monday 19th October 21:02

JonnyCJ

1,309 posts

54 months

Wednesday 21st October 2020
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Had an email off David at Powerflex and he reckons towards the end of the year.

chunkster-deluxe

26 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Any idea if PowerFlex are still working on this?