Thoughts on Cygnet

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kensilver

312 posts

119 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Brakke said:
...Anyway, ill keep you guys posted if I end up buying...
Oh well, you would have been in good company - Sir Stirling Moss bought one for his wife Susie in 2011.


Guycord

744 posts

173 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Think the Cygnet production run was approx. 400 in total.

Bez had it in his mind that Gaydon would produce 4000 a year.

I think the Cygnet will be a very smart buy if you can afford to buy mint and park them up long-term. I don't think there will be any prizes for shabby 30k-100k Cygnets with cracked/worn leather interiors etc...

I don't think we can say "its an Aston, needs to be used, not kept as a garage queen" on this model. However, a few opening miles, kept pristine and it will be a good investment.

Vee12V

1,332 posts

160 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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The idea wasn't as bad as the execution. But what has always bothered me is that they left the mechanicals stock. With all the leather and luxury goodies added it was slower than a standard IQ. Just unacceptable.

RichB

51,531 posts

284 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Guycord said:
I think the Cygnet will be a very smart buy if you can afford to buy mint and park them up long-term. I don't think there will be any prizes for shabby 30k-100k Cygnets with cracked/worn leather interiors etc...

I don't think we can say "its an Aston, needs to be used, not kept as a garage queen" on this model. However, a few opening miles, kept pristine and it will be a good investment.
But that's a complete anomaly because the whole point of a town car is that it gets used in a city, squeezed into spaces and picks up the odd knock and a few scratches. That's why the whole concept of a Luxury twon car that one is scared to use is so daft. If I lived in the city (heaven forbid) I would buy a cheap Smart or IQ and use it until it was scrap.

Guycord

744 posts

173 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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RichB said:
Guycord said:
I think the Cygnet will be a very smart buy if you can afford to buy mint and park them up long-term. I don't think there will be any prizes for shabby 30k-100k Cygnets with cracked/worn leather interiors etc...

I don't think we can say "its an Aston, needs to be used, not kept as a garage queen" on this model. However, a few opening miles, kept pristine and it will be a good investment.
But that's a complete anomaly because the whole point of a town car is that it gets used in a city, squeezed into spaces and picks up the odd knock and a few scratches. That's why the whole concept of a Luxury twon car that one is scared to use is so daft. If I lived in the city (heaven forbid) I would buy a cheap Smart or IQ and use it until it was scrap.
A complete anomaly? Yes. Assuming were thinking performance GT Astons from Gaydon which we know benefit from being used? Yes - from historical "performance" Astons which were designed to be driven (and cost a fortune to do so). But the Cygnet is neither of these. It is a re-bodied Toyota IQ through and through as its DNA.

However, from the perspective that the Cygnet is a relatively rare Aston and that it may be an abomination to many (but that is besides the point as many Zagatos are such but always command a premium) it falls into neither performance nor historical GT land. The problem with the Cygnet as I see it, is that if the car is used as intended, its just another about town snotter. Plenty of cheaper options on the road to choose from. So why would you?

If used as a "symbol", then wear and tear will quickly cost more than the car is ever worth. Fancy buying a new bonnet from Aston. Bang goes £2-3k I suspect. Pot-holed a Rim.....£500-1500 if they are stocked. This can become an expensive symbol. So why would you - because your not exactly saying how good a driver you are...or how fast or virile or able to provide you are - are you? Your not exactly buying into the pure driving pleasure experience?

No. The cygnet should be bought, stored, taken out occasionally and looked after. In 10 years time you can say you doubled your money (wow!), but a least you can say you preserved a dead-end Aston for the record.

Personally, I would have one. Its just with my garage space as is.....I'd rather get something a bit older and a few more combustion cylinders before they become unattainable.

Cheers.

Mako V12V

3,135 posts

214 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Brakke said:
Mako V12V said:
Saeed - contact Simon Stanton at AM Works, Newport Pagnell, he should be able to confirm numbers for you.
Got an email address for me?

BTW: Monday im delivering my 550 for a service, so will go have a look at that V12V you been badgering on about without end! wink
Hi, I have emailed Simon for you as I wanted to give him an update on my Register too.

And thanks for your efforts tomorrow beer

Brakke

Original Poster:

490 posts

123 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Thanks!

Sorry, i made a mistake its not tomorrow but Tuesday. Anyway, will keep you posted!

LordBretSinclair

4,288 posts

177 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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[quote=kensilver]

Oh well, you would have been in good company - Sir Stirling Moss bought one for his wife Susie in 2011.

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Actually it was a gift from Dr. Bez frown

V8Chris

107 posts

99 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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If anyone wants a mint one this looks like a good one for £32K: http://www.dorsetsportscars.co.uk/car.php?cid=997

Even if you live in London I still dont know why you would want something that small. Despite the Cygnet having very nice leather I would rather get something like a Corsa SRI: http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vehicles/vauxhall-range/... ... When I was 18 I had a Vauxhall and the ladies loved it

kensilver

312 posts

119 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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LordBretSinclair said:
kensilver said:
Oh well, you would have been in good company - Sir Stirling Moss bought one for his wife Susie in 2011.

Actually it was a gift from Dr. Bez frown
According to the AM press release: "12 July 2011 Gaydon: At the prestigious Royal Automobile Club last night, international motorsport legend, Sir Stirling Moss took delivery of his newly purchased Aston Martin Cygnet; a surprise birthday present for wife, Lady Moss..."

Maybe they had a contra going - who knows what happens in the elevated world of high finance!

T5XARV

600 posts

134 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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LordBretSinclair said:
kensilver said:
Oh well, you would have been in good company - Sir Stirling Moss bought one for his wife Susie in 2011.

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Actually it was a gift from Dr. Bez frown
And they keep it in the hallway......

kensilver

312 posts

119 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Just having some photoshop fun... smile



Edited by kensilver on Tuesday 15th March 07:24

Vanin

1,010 posts

166 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Guycord said:
Think the Cygnet production run was approx. 400 in total.

Bez had it in his mind that Gaydon would produce 4000 a year.

I think the Cygnet will be a very smart buy if you can afford to buy mint and park them up long-term. I don't think there will be any prizes for shabby 30k-100k Cygnets with cracked/worn leather interiors etc...

I don't think we can say "its an Aston, needs to be used, not kept as a garage queen" on this model. However, a few opening miles, kept pristine and it will be a good investment.
Do not think I would be risking investment money on a Cygnet.
I would rather find another barn for this car, one of the first nine Virages (G509) manual, last of the truly handbuilt cars 1600 hours to build by proper artisans, very rare.
Not worth spending any money on now but quite a good bet for the future at £20,000 I would suggest.

http://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/1990-aston-mar... March 19th sale

Vanin

1,010 posts

166 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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kensilver said:
Just having some photoshop fun... smile

Bond's expression looks as though he has just had his balls whipped!

woodsypedia

870 posts

153 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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kensilver said:
Just having some photoshop fun... smile

Brilliant! I can see the slogan now...

"As MI5 moves to EU control, Bond is left musing over his new ride..."

brakedwell

1,229 posts

199 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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That looks like Freddie Flintoff!

Murph7355

37,684 posts

256 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Vanin said:
Bond's expression looks as though he has just had his balls whipped!
Most people would sooner that than have that sort of company car given to them biggrin

LordBretSinclair

4,288 posts

177 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Vanin said:
kensilver said:
Just having some photoshop fun... smile

Bond's expression looks as though he has just had his balls whipped!


rofl

Vanin

1,010 posts

166 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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Yes, that's the one, carbon copy expression!

Brakke

Original Poster:

490 posts

123 months

Monday 14th March 2016
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The purchase is a no-go.
The car is already for sale for 9 months and they wont budge on price AT ALL.
I was offering 35k euro and they wont come down a single cent from their 37450 euro.... so if someone else wants it, its all yours.