Vantage AMR

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IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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NeinFondue said:
Very very nice Adam. The best AMR I’ve seen so far thumbup I’m obviously biased having also chosen Scintilla..

Mine is going into build 16th Feb (hopefully), and having seen yours in the flesh, I cannot wait for mine.
You are totally biased of course Marcel. Zaffre is by far the best colour wink

Mine goes into build on 12 Feb so will keep an eye for it when I go to Gaydon thumbup

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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NeinFondue said:
The best AMR I’ve seen so far
As AMR don't race cars in scintilla or zaffre, is it really an AMR car if it's not in AMR (Halo) colours ?

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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jonby said:
As AMR don't race cars in scintilla or zaffre, is it really an AMR car if it's not in AMR (Halo) colours ?
nonobiglaugh

NeinFondue

860 posts

156 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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jonby said:
As AMR don't race cars in scintilla or zaffre, is it really an AMR car if it's not in AMR (Halo) colours ?
That’s a really good point Jon.. I’m sure in the future they may start racing the roadsters too. In Halo obvs rolleyeshehehehe

NeinFondue

860 posts

156 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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IanV12VR said:
You are totally biased of course Marcel. Zaffre is by far the best colour wink

Mine goes into build on 12 Feb so will keep an eye for it when I go to Gaydon thumbup
Zaffre is second best, and my opinion is obviously fact tongue out

I’m scheduled to see mine in build on the 23rd Feb, so I should see yours, Jonby’s and Silverspeed’s on the line too thumbup


IanV12VR

2,749 posts

155 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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I have been given a date for the visit yet but that will no doubt be sorted out nearer to the time. Can’t wait!

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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NeinFondue said:
jonby said:
As AMR don't race cars in scintilla or zaffre, is it really an AMR car if it's not in AMR (Halo) colours ?
That’s a really good point Jon.. I’m sure in the future they may start racing the roadsters too. In Halo obvs rolleyeshehehehe
you're quite right of course, although F1 cars are open topped :-)

silverspeed

1,505 posts

230 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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NeinFondue said:
Zaffre is second best, and my opinion is obviously fact tongue out

I’m scheduled to see mine in build on the 23rd Feb, so I should see yours, Jonby’s and Silverspeed’s on the line too thumbup
Mine goes on line March 1st - hope it’s not early because I come back from America on 28th and really want to see it in build . I’m with Ian - Zaffre is the way forward and who knows what next years Racing Colours will be ( funny F1 should be mentioned ) wink



Edited by silverspeed on Monday 15th January 18:16

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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NeinFondue said:
IanV12VR said:
You are totally biased of course Marcel. Zaffre is by far the best colour wink

Mine goes into build on 12 Feb so will keep an eye for it when I go to Gaydon thumbup
Zaffre is second best, and my opinion is obviously fact tongue out

I’m scheduled to see mine in build on the 23rd Feb, so I should see yours, Jonby’s and Silverspeed’s on the line too thumbup
hopefully, mine will be in the dealers by then - it is scheduled to go on the line on 29th Jan and a number of the Q items are already made/painted/foiled/embroidered/etc....can't believe it's finally happening

AdamV12AMR

1,380 posts

156 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Quarterly said:
Congratulations on the new car, looks absolutely superb, its going to be so much fun to drive. driving What have you done with the green monster? biggrin
Thank you sir.

I had a (not particularly monstrous) Hardly Green V8VR prior to this, so you may be confusing me with AdamV12V who has the Kermit V12VS with aero?

If not, the Hardly Green Machine was p/x’d for the AMR back in June. It now has a much more appropriate life, residing as it does down in Nice in the South of France cloud9

Crf7

18 posts

79 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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AdamV12AMR said:
Thank you. I do think an orange stripe would like great but, for me, it would have meant quite an expensive foray into the world of 'Q' to have it properly painted, as all AMR graphics should be! Mine is actually ceramic grey as opposed to black.

What you say you haven't collected yours, are saying you've bought one but it's just sitting at the dealership waiting for you?! scratchchineek
Yes it is

KevinBird

1,036 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Why are the brake callipers and trim accents (on the Halo cars?) the same colour that's used to designate Porsche hybrids?

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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KevinBird said:
Why are the brake callipers and trim accents (on the Halo cars?) the same colour that's used to designate Porsche hybrids?
I realise it's not a particularly serious question, but for those that don't know the history, I guess you would have to ask Aston Martin Racing why they use lime accents in their liveries on the GTE Pro cars to get your answer.

From memory, the association with Gulf for the colour schemes of Aston's WEC cars ended in 2014/15ish and the stirling/lime scheme came in straight after that

The Vantage AMR edition (in any colour) is officially stated to be inspired by the #95 car which won the 2016 world endurance championship, hence offering a Halo option in the colours of the #95 car

Of course the edition was signed off, including the offering of the halo scheme and the sales literature, just before Le Mans in June - the car was shown to the public for the first time at Le Mans. With hindsight, if they had realised they were going to win or waited til after Le Mans before the launch, they may well have said the edition and it's Halo scheme option was inspired by the #97 car that won Le Mans in 2017, given that it was achieved in the last year of old Vantage racing in WEC and indeed, the last Le Mans for Vantage before the all new replacement

AdamV12AMR

1,380 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Because Lime Green is the accent colour used by AMR for their (Le Mans winning) GTE Pro cars:


And they look cool cool

KevinBird

1,036 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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jonby said:
I realise it's not a particularly serious question, but for those that don't know the history, I guess you would have to ask Aston Martin Racing why they use lime accents in their liveries on the GTE Pro cars to get your answer.

From memory, the association with Gulf for the colour schemes of Aston's WEC cars ended in 2014/15ish and the stirling/lime scheme came in straight after that

The Vantage AMR edition (in any colour) is officially stated to be inspired by the #95 car which won the 2016 world endurance championship, hence offering a Halo option in the colours of the #95 car

Of course the edition was signed off, including the offering of the halo scheme and the sales literature, just before Le Mans in June - the car was shown to the public for the first time at Le Mans. With hindsight, if they had realised they were going to win or waited til after Le Mans before the launch, they may well have said the edition and it's Halo scheme option was inspired by the #97 car that won Le Mans in 2017, given that it was achieved in the last year of old Vantage racing in WEC and indeed, the last Le Mans for Vantage before the all new replacement
Its a serious question and thanks for your reply but it still doesn't answer why the callipers mimic the Porsche hybrids.

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Its a confusing theme so I decided to go for one of the last unregistered pre AMR's because of the simple and pure design. The wheels are going silver which won't be to everyones taste but it works on the One-77, each to their own



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NeinFondue

860 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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KevinBird said:
Its a serious question and thanks for your reply but it still doesn't answer why the callipers mimic the Porsche hybrids.

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Its a confusing theme so I decided to go for one of the last unregistered pre AMR's because of the simple and pure design. The wheels are going silver which won't be to everyones taste but it works on the One-77, each to their own



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It’s a shame then that you missed out on the V12 AMR. If I recall, given the included options on the V12 AMR, it would have been good / better value, and if you deleted the stripe and opted for lighter colour wheels you would have been able to replicate what you have with the added bonus of power increase and limited production run (whether that is worth anything is debatable). Although, you probably got some decent discount on your pre-reg car, so the added value of the AMR is also questionable.

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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KevinBird said:


Its a serious question and thanks for your reply but it still doesn't answer why the callipers mimic the Porsche hybrids.

Its a confusing theme so I decided to go for one of the last unregistered pre AMR's because of the simple and pure design. The wheels are going silver which won't be to everyones taste but it works on the One-77, each to their own
The short answer to your question is that it's a coincidence.

If you are asking why the road car has coloured callipers when the race car does not, it's a reasonable(ish) question, with a fairly simple and obvious answer - coloured callipers are a popular option in general on sports cars and this scheme is inspired by the GTE cars, but not a replica

If you are genuinely asking why they are the same as the colour Porsche use on hybrid cars, then you have your answer already - the lime on the callipers is to match the lime used in general on the Aston WEC cars, not to match Porsches hybrid callipers. Porsche don't have a monopoly on lime, just as Porsche on their non hybrid cars choose to use yellow for carbon discs & red for steels whilst other manufacturers use no such system.

Even without going Q, you could have an AMR car with the no cost stripe delete (in any of the schemes other than Halo) and on all cars other than Halo, coloured callipers were a cost option and didn't need to be chosen. You could even go full Halo then retrofit black callipers if you like (the factory wouldn't allow that). So I don't quite understand the logic, but it's your money and your choice

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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jonby said:
You could even go full Halo ...

I keep reading about Halo. We have been shown many photos of the AMR cars, but I have not yet seen any with a circle of light above them.

Being puzzled about this, I took council on this matter.


halo effect
noun 

the positive opinion that someone has of a person, product, company, etc. as a whole, which is based on an earlier opinion of one particular quality or feature:

The aim is to capitalise on the halo effect of core products, by which consumers are willing to try something new if it is offered under a brand they already like.









AdamV12AMR

1,380 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Jon39 said:

I keep reading about Halo. We have been shown many photos of the AMR cars, but I have not yet seen any with a circle of light above them.

Being puzzled about this, I took
counsel

said:
on this matter.


halo effect
noun ?

the positive opinion that someone has of a person, product, company, etc. as a whole, which is based on an earlier opinion of one particular quality or feature:

The aim is to capitalise on the halo effect of core products, by which consumers are willing to try something new if it is offered under a brand they already like.
wink

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Getting back on track, just been told that 2nd Feb is a good date to see my car in build, though I suspect might be a touch too early to see the marriage

Still seems slightly unreal to all be so close after such a long time since I first started discussing the project with Gaydon. The first rumours of a 3 pedal gearbox going into V12 Vantage S, which is what started those discussions, seem like a lifetime ago ! Good things come to those who wait........