Vantage AMR

[AdamV8V]

jonby said:

magarnett said:

Specification and order completed today. I went for the following

Coupe Manual
Stirling Green
Halo
Aero
Titanium Exhaust
CF lightweight Seats
Accessory Kit
Tracker

Dealer checked with AM production and once all kit fitted i will be left with spare standard CF front splinter, both side cill's and rear diffuser

Replacement cill's are all CF so you can paint top to match body or leave as full CF

I'm informed from my dealer all V12's sold, in fact well over subscribed. Still a few V8's left but not many.

V12 allocation was 1 per UK dealer but a few have managed to secure two. With only 20ish UK dealers than means around 30 UK cars

Delivery Q4

Mark

congrats

Congrats indeed. You've ticked all the big boxes there! Epic spec

Jonby, when do we learn what you've gone for?!

[Derek007]

AdamV12V said:

Interesting - how much is Project 8 going to be?

Re your spec - as above feedback really that the rear enviro leather is well worth having at £395

I can perhaps help with 3 of the 4 items you are waiting for prices on:

• Carbon roof panel - £5995 (on GT8/GT12)
• Carbon Tail gate panel - £1995 (on GT8/GT12) (includes the infills - so a relative bargain really!)
• GT12 Door cards
• Roll cage - AMR accessory price is £3,995 +VAT + fitting.

Project 8 starting price £150k + so will be nudging £200k once a few options are chosen,

Thanks for the price information, I think these would look great cosmetic additions but with list price heading towards £215k might be stretching things a little to far?

[ddhaliwal1]

AdamV8V said:

PS - sorry, welcome to the forum!!

Do you have a Vanq I or new Vanquish?

Hi Adam,

I've got a new vanquish in carbon black. You make some good points! I think for me, the V12 is something I'd love to experience in a manual. I've looked to spec the V8 with all the the best bits and it's coming up north of £130k...More than some V12VS manuals knocking around on Auto trader.

My dealer said the V12 car is well over subscribed, i've put a deposit down for the upcoming Vanquish 'ultimate' but will see how that goes.

[CheckSix]

I'm sorry did someone bring a Jaguar into this thread?

I had to look up what project 8 was... and I'm sure it's not a competitor here! 😁

Great spec fellas I'm thinking of the same ... but in Australia I haven't even been given the prices yet!

The carbon roof, boot and door panel have just been put on my want list; what's the chance of getting the carbon GT12 centre console?

The roll cage, as long as it's a half one like GT4, would be "cool" as it can be used daily without too much obstruction...yes yes I can feel the collective eye rolls 😝

Looking to have mine done like the Vanquish Zagato launch with the red and gold including the wheels.

Would tick the aero minus the wing ... or if they can fit the proper GT4 wing I would consider it... why add such a small wing if you are going to rice it up might as well go the whole hog! Love the little flicks at the front though.

They should've included a driving suit and helmet with this car as a surprise bonus I reckon!

[CheckSix]

I'm sorry did someone bring a Jaguar into this thread?

I had to look up what project 8 was... and I'm sure it's not a competitor here!

Great spec fellas I'm thinking of the same ... but in Australia I haven't even been given the prices yet!

The carbon roof, boot and door panel have just been put on my want list; what's the chance of getting the carbon GT12 centre console?

The roll cage, as long as it's a half one like GT4, would be "cool" as it can be used daily without too much obstruction...yes yes I can feel the collective eye rolls

Looking to have mine done like the Vanquish Zagato launch with the red and gold including the wheels.

Would tick the aero minus the wing ... or if they can fit the proper GT4 wing I would consider it... why add such a small wing if you are going to rice it up might as well go the whole hog! Love the little flicks at the front though.

They should've included a driving suit and helmet with this car as a surprise bonus I reckon!

[AdamV12V]

jonby said:

Not really thought about this before but given the rear environment leather cost is a fixed price, does that mean it's done in Caithness if the rest of the car is Caithness and strathmore if the rest of the car is strathmore ?

On the fuel cap, I seem to recall hearing the plastic cap that is now standard (I've never actually seen one) doesn't have a tether. My metal one (standard fitment) does. I assume when the metal cap is ordered as an option on a new car, it is also tethered ? My dealer tells me they effectively never see a car without the metal fuel cap, other than db11 which iirc doesn't have any kind of cap ?

I have the rear leather on mine and I have the upgraded Caithness Leather and I can confirm that they are the same quality of leather. I paid only £395. Don't try to apply logic to it Jonby - I have half leather and half alcantara in mine, including paying extra for an alcantara dash, but it didn't decrease the cost of the £995 to get Caithness leather in half as many areas.

I also went for the black plastic fuel cap. I can confirm it has a tether and looks identical to the aluminium one other than its black and plastic. In fairness given the exterior colour of Kermit is all green and black it actually works quite well. I try to take a picture later and will post it up for you.

Anyway if I want an aluminium cap I can buy one on ebay for £175, which is £20 less than it would have cost to spec at the factory and surely must take less than 5mins to fit myself.

[AdamV12V]

Derek007 said:

AdamV12V said:

Interesting - how much is Project 8 going to be?

Re your spec - as above feedback really that the rear enviro leather is well worth having at £395

I can perhaps help with 3 of the 4 items you are waiting for prices on:

• Carbon roof panel - £5995 (on GT8/GT12)
• Carbon Tail gate panel - £1995 (on GT8/GT12) (includes the infills - so a relative bargain really!)
• GT12 Door cards
• Roll cage

Project 8 starting price £150k + so will be nudging £200k once a few options are chosen,

Thanks for the price information, I think these would look great cosmetic additions but with list price heading towards £215k might be stretching things a little to far?

Well don't forget that the first 3 items which you have listed will fall under Q Division - and that now comes with a minimum £12,000 spend.

CheckSix said:

The carbon roof, boot and door panel have just been put on my want list; what's the chance of getting the carbon GT12 centre console?

Slim chance I would think, because I reckon Q will say that the GT12 console is reserved for the GT12 (that said they put it on the AMR Pro Vantage, but then that was £750k). You can ask, but don't forget as I have just put above all Q items now come with a minimum spend of £12,000.

CheckSix said:

Looking to have mine done like the Vanquish Zagato launch with the red and gold including the wheels.

Now this one I would be almost certain will be declined by Q. I asked for the V12 Vantage Zagato wheels on mine and they declined stating "We are sorry but the Zagato Wheels are reserved for Zagato cars only and cannot be specified".

CheckSix said:

Would tick the aero minus the wing ... or if they can fit the proper GT4 wing I would consider it... why add such a small wing if you are going to rice it up might as well go the whole hog! Love the little flicks at the front though.

Be careful - no wing only will very likely upset the balance of the car at high speeds by giving the front more downforce from the new aero, but leaving the back the same as before. Its up to you of course, but I wouldn't put my car and my life potentially at risk by doing so.

Just to point out that as far as I can tell the AMR Aerokit IS the GT4 kit - the wing is identical to the best of my knowledge, so they are fitting the "proper GT4 wing! Pics posted here on the AMR Accessory thread and again below in the AMR Racing link I have provided.

I think perhaps you are confusing it with either the GT3 or GTE both of which have significantly larger wings. Don't forget however that GTE is a V8, whereare GT3 and GT12 are V12. In road car terms GT3 is in effect the GT12 so already accounted for in the range, leaving GT4 - which this AMR Racing Aerokit is (I believe).

http://www.astonmartin.com/en/racing/race-cars

Edited by AdamV12V on Saturday 24th June 12:56

[C997]

AdamV12V said:

Derek007 said:

AdamV12V said:

Looking to have mine done like the Vanquish Zagato launch with the red and gold including the wheels.

Now this one I would be almost certain will be declined by Q. I asked for the V12 Vantage Zagato wheels on mine and they declined stating "We are sorry but the Zagato Wheels are reserved for Zagato cars only and cannot be specified".

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Same as the Lava red paint on the Zagato, you can't have it, I asked.

[northernmedia]

AdamV12V said:

northernmedia said:

Have all the V12's gone?

Word is that they have, but at the likely realistic prices discussed above I would imagine there are still one or two available somewhere if you make enough calls. Are you tempted then Matt?

I was tempted mate but it does indeed look like they've all gone.

Might have to save my dough for the new Vantage

[AdamV12V]

northernmedia said:

AdamV12V said:

northernmedia said:

Have all the V12's gone?

Word is that they have, but at the likely realistic prices discussed above I would imagine there are still one or two available somewhere if you make enough calls. Are you tempted then Matt?

I was tempted mate but it does indeed look like they've all gone.

Might have to save my dough for the new Vantage

Stick with what you have matey, or snap up one of the last few V12VS's (Man or SSIII) which are still on the market instead if you are feeling an itch. The new Vantage wont have a V12 for a very long time, if indeed at all, and it certainly wont be naturally aspirated.

Have you still got the Gulf decals on the car and if so how long are you keeping them on?

Come on lets get together and haggle for a discount on two Aerokit upgrades at the same time!

[Derek007]

Does anyone know if V12 AMR is the fastest manual road car Aston Martin have produced?

[AdamV12V]

Derek007 said:

Does anyone know if V12 AMR is the fastest manual road car Aston Martin have produced?

What are you defining as the "fastest"? The V12VS has been stated as the fastest production road car AM make, and does 0-60 in 3.7 sec with 205mph top speed but then along came the GT12 which does 0-60 in 3.5 secs due to 100kg less weight and more power. The GT12 however only does 185mph top speed due to the aero drag, so which is the "fastest" V12VS or GT12?

AMR Vantage is either manual or SSIII and in SSIII guise it would be directly up against the GT12 which would depend on if you added Aero to the AMR or not.

Logically an AMR with aerokit would have a slower top speed than a V12VS or AMR without, and an AMR without aerokit would have a slower 0-60 than a GT12 as its at least 100kg heavier.

So if you take a specifically an AMR Manual with no aero to exclude GT12 from the equation then maybe its the fastest, but don't forget the SSIII gearbox is a manual really - an automated manual, it certainly is not a automatic or a DCG box.

Also its now easy for any V12VSM to add the Powerkit to match the AMR output, and I'm sure it would be quite easy for a GT12 owner to approach AM Works to do a SSIII to dogleg manual conversion too for not much money, which would certainly qualify the GT12 as a full manual again.

Kids playing top trumps would probably be most swayed by the top speed figure I feel, so if you want the possibility of pub bragging rights then I think you realistically need to drop aerokit from your spec to have a shot at it.

Meanwhile in the real world I think we would have to give the title of "fastest" to the GT12 - because it is still the most powerful and the lightest production AM (and it is really a manual), so in that respect it just has to win really.

Edited by AdamV12V on Saturday 24th June 14:40

[RobDown]

I think the simpler answer is 'yes'

I think describing the clutchless/paddle-shifting GT12 as a manual fails the real world test

But as Adam indicates it's a curious claim to fame. The manual may be more fun, but around a track the SSiii transmission would be faster

[wtdoom]

AdamV12V said:

What are you defining as the "fastest"? The V12VS has been stated as the fastest production road car AM make, and does 0-60 in 3.7 sec with 205mph top speed but then along came the GT12 which does 0-60 in 3.5 secs due to 100kg less weight and more power. The GT12 however only does 185mph top speed due to the aero drag, so which is the "fastest" V12VS or GT12?

AMR Vantage is either manual or SSIII and in SSIII guise it would be directly up against the GT12 which would depend on if you added Aero to the AMR or not.

Logically an AMR with aerokit would have a slower top speed than a V12VS or AMR without, and an AMR without aerokit would have a slower 0-60 than a GT12 as its at least 100kg heavier.

So if you take a specifically an AMR Manual with no aero to exclude GT12 from the equation then maybe its the fastest, but don't forget the SSIII gearbox is a manual really - an automated manual, it certainly is not a automatic or a DCG box.

Also its now easy for any V12VSM to add the Powerkit to match the AMR output, and I'm sure it would be quite easy for a GT12 owner to approach AM Works to do a SSIII to dogleg manual conversion too for not much money, which would certainly qualify the GT12 as a full manual again.

Kids playing top trumps would probably be most swayed by the top speed figure I feel, so if you want the possibility of pub bragging rights then I think you realistically need to drop aerokit from your spec to have a shot at it.

Meanwhile in the real world I think we would have to give the title of "fastest" to the GT12 - because it is still the most powerful and the lightest production AM (and it is really a manual), so in that respect it just has to win really.

Edited by AdamV12V on Saturday 24th June 14:40

Great post , one thing regarding the manual on the gt12 it's impossible if you want to keep the waterfall feature / centre console specific to the gt12 . Apparently the angle wouldn't work with the placement of the gear stick , you wouldn't be able to hit the forward gears (2,4 and 6)on the dogleg manual .
I looked at that for the dreadnought project and have to go completely bespoke because of that

[IanV12VR]

I thought the question was fairly simple until I read Adam's post. I agree with Rob that if it has flappy paddles and no clutch then the arguement for calling it a manual is pretty weak. All I know is that when I compare the two of mine the SS feels much quicker.

[RobDown]

wtdoom said:

Great post , one thing regarding the manual on the gt12 it's impossible if you want to keep the waterfall feature / centre console specific to the gt12 . Apparently the angle wouldn't work with the placement of the gear stick , you wouldn't be able to hit the forward gears (2,4 and 6)on the dogleg manual .
I looked at that for the dreadnought project and have to go completely bespoke because of that

Ah thanks for that. I had always wondered why none of the GT12 owners had gone down the route of getting a conversion back to manual

[wtdoom]

RobDown said:

Ah thanks for that. I had always wondered why none of the GT12 owners had gone down the route of getting a conversion back to manual

Your welcome , I was told I couldn't have that design piece with a manual gearbox in my project car because of that.

[Derek007]

AdamV12V said:

What are you defining as the "fastest"? The V12VS has been stated as the fastest production road car AM make, and does 0-60 in 3.7 sec with 205mph top speed but then along came the GT12 which does 0-60 in 3.5 secs due to 100kg less weight and more power. The GT12 however only does 185mph top speed due to the aero drag, so which is the "fastest" V12VS or GT12?

AMR Vantage is either manual or SSIII and in SSIII guise it would be directly up against the GT12 which would depend on if you added Aero to the AMR or not.

Logically an AMR with aerokit would have a slower top speed than a V12VS or AMR without, and an AMR without aerokit would have a slower 0-60 than a GT12 as its at least 100kg heavier.

So if you take a specifically an AMR Manual with no aero to exclude GT12 from the equation then maybe its the fastest, but don't forget the SSIII gearbox is a manual really - an automated manual, it certainly is not a automatic or a DCG box.

Also its now easy for any V12VSM to add the Powerkit to match the AMR output, and I'm sure it would be quite easy for a GT12 owner to approach AM Works to do a SSIII to dogleg manual conversion too for not much money, which would certainly qualify the GT12 as a full manual again.

Kids playing top trumps would probably be most swayed by the top speed figure I feel, so if you want the possibility of pub bragging rights then I think you realistically need to drop aerokit from your spec to have a shot at it.

Meanwhile in the real world I think we would have to give the title of "fastest" to the GT12 - because it is still the most powerful and the lightest production AM (and it is really a manual), so in that respect it just has to win really.

Edited by AdamV12V on Saturday 24th June 14:40

Thanks for the comprehensive reply, so I take it the GT12 wasn't available with a manual gearbox?

[kizzz]

Does anyone know for sure if deliveries are all scheduled for q4?

[Derek007]

AdamV12V said:

What are you defining as the "fastest"? The V12VS has been stated as the fastest production road car AM make, and does 0-60 in 3.7 sec with 205mph top speed but then along came the GT12 which does 0-60 in 3.5 secs due to 100kg less weight and more power. The GT12 however only does 185mph top speed due to the aero drag, so which is the "fastest" V12VS or GT12?

AMR Vantage is either manual or SSIII and in SSIII guise it would be directly up against the GT12 which would depend on if you added Aero to the AMR or not.

Logically an AMR with aerokit would have a slower top speed than a V12VS or AMR without, and an AMR without aerokit would have a slower 0-60 than a GT12 as its at least 100kg heavier.

So if you take a specifically an AMR Manual with no aero to exclude GT12 from the equation then maybe its the fastest, but don't forget the SSIII gearbox is a manual really - an automated manual, it certainly is not a automatic or a DCG box.

Also its now easy for any V12VSM to add the Powerkit to match the AMR output, and I'm sure it would be quite easy for a GT12 owner to approach AM Works to do a SSIII to dogleg manual conversion too for not much money, which would certainly qualify the GT12 as a full manual again.

Kids playing top trumps would probably be most swayed by the top speed figure I feel, so if you want the possibility of pub bragging rights then I think you realistically need to drop aerokit from your spec to have a shot at it.

Meanwhile in the real world I think we would have to give the title of "fastest" to the GT12 - because it is still the most powerful and the lightest production AM (and it is really a manual), so in that respect it just has to win really.

Edited by AdamV12V on Saturday 24th June 14:40

Thanks for the comprehensive reply,so I take it that the GT12 wasn't available as a manual?