What's going to happen to performance and tuning with EVs?
Discussion
It's something I've been pondering for a while now.
With ICE's set to disappear, what will this mean for tuning cars, and performance cars in general? Of course you can fit a more powerful motor (like I used to in the days of racing Tamiya RC cars), but they just use up the battery quicker.
I'm genuinely intrigued to get people's thoughts on what will happen to the huge industry that is performance tuning...
(obviously I know some areas e.g. suspension, bodywork etc will be less-affected)
With ICE's set to disappear, what will this mean for tuning cars, and performance cars in general? Of course you can fit a more powerful motor (like I used to in the days of racing Tamiya RC cars), but they just use up the battery quicker.
I'm genuinely intrigued to get people's thoughts on what will happen to the huge industry that is performance tuning...
(obviously I know some areas e.g. suspension, bodywork etc will be less-affected)
SuperBaaaad said:
It's something I've been pondering for a while now.
With ICE's set to disappear, what will this mean for tuning cars, and performance cars in general? Of course you can fit a more powerful motor (like I used to in the days of racing Tamiya RC cars), but they just use up the battery quicker.
I'm genuinely intrigued to get people's thoughts on what will happen to the huge industry that is performance tuning...
(obviously I know some areas e.g. suspension, bodywork etc will be less-affected)
The future of motoring is so wide open at the moment it's hard to predict.With ICE's set to disappear, what will this mean for tuning cars, and performance cars in general? Of course you can fit a more powerful motor (like I used to in the days of racing Tamiya RC cars), but they just use up the battery quicker.
I'm genuinely intrigued to get people's thoughts on what will happen to the huge industry that is performance tuning...
(obviously I know some areas e.g. suspension, bodywork etc will be less-affected)
With the sharing economy on the growth you may not even own your vehicle, one possible outcome is you buy into a particular brand say BMW.
Your monthly contract with BMW depending on what you pay gives you access to a series 3 sized car, it's driverless and you have requested it be at your house at 07:30 to take you to work and then be at work to take you home at 17:00.
Bob down the road likes Audi so he has a contract with them, all the while thousands of driverless BMW, Mercedes, Fords etc etc drive around the country picking up and dropping off clients including your children as they don't need a licence.
Why pay £500 per month for an asset that sits on your drive or works car park depreciating.
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why the need to customise your car?
admittedly that future may not be the one we experience but it is a very viable option, most cars are already under a monthly payment and the ability to request a car to be at a location at a certain time exists (Uber) so once driverless cars kick off it's only a matter of time.
ZOLLAR said:
The future of motoring is so wide open at the moment it's hard to predict.
With the sharing economy on the growth you may not even own your vehicle, one possible outcome is you buy into a particular brand say BMW.
Your monthly contract with BMW depending on what you pay gives you access to a series 3 sized car, it's driverless and you have requested it be at your house at 07:30 to take you to work and then be at work to take you home at 17:00.
Bob down the road likes Audi so he has a contract with them, all the while thousands of driverless BMW, Mercedes, Fords etc etc drive around the country picking up and dropping off clients including your children as they don't need a licence.
Why pay £500 per month for an asset that sits on your drive or works car park depreciating.
Premium Personal Taxis!
why the need to customise your car?
admittedly that future may not be the one we experience but it is a very viable option, most cars are already under a monthly payment and the ability to request a car to be at a location at a certain time exists (Uber) so once driverless cars kick off it's only a matter of time.
Johnny CabsWith the sharing economy on the growth you may not even own your vehicle, one possible outcome is you buy into a particular brand say BMW.
Your monthly contract with BMW depending on what you pay gives you access to a series 3 sized car, it's driverless and you have requested it be at your house at 07:30 to take you to work and then be at work to take you home at 17:00.
Bob down the road likes Audi so he has a contract with them, all the while thousands of driverless BMW, Mercedes, Fords etc etc drive around the country picking up and dropping off clients including your children as they don't need a licence.
Why pay £500 per month for an asset that sits on your drive or works car park depreciating.
Premium Personal Taxis!
why the need to customise your car?
admittedly that future may not be the one we experience but it is a very viable option, most cars are already under a monthly payment and the ability to request a car to be at a location at a certain time exists (Uber) so once driverless cars kick off it's only a matter of time.
SuperBaaaad said:
ZOLLAR said:
...why the need to customise your car?
This makes me a bit sad. People who are into cars have always customised them to varying degrees - making them individual etc.it's already happening, youths don't modify their cars anymore as they are mostly leased or financed so can't change anything on the car.
I think we're heading for an era where you don't own a car, but rather you pay for a car as a service and the car brings you wherever you want to go in autonomous mode. Where that leaves people who enjoy driving, customisation, track days etc... I'm not sure, these things will probably still exist in some form but for track days it will probably be arrive and drive rather than bring your own.
In the interim we will probably all end up driving electric vehicles which can have the batteries wedged in in near enough any shape or form so I'd expect to see the layout of cars change quite dramatically depending on required usage. There will probably be a performance/battery life balance to be struck, but EVs should have considerable performance available for not much cost (relatively).
It will be interesting times, I'm sure enthusiasts will be catered for but it will be a niche market as very few seem to care about actual driving anymore.
In the interim we will probably all end up driving electric vehicles which can have the batteries wedged in in near enough any shape or form so I'd expect to see the layout of cars change quite dramatically depending on required usage. There will probably be a performance/battery life balance to be struck, but EVs should have considerable performance available for not much cost (relatively).
It will be interesting times, I'm sure enthusiasts will be catered for but it will be a niche market as very few seem to care about actual driving anymore.
Same as with IC,
Alter or replace the motor to give more power
Alter or replace the motor to give more torque.
Remap of the power controller.
Increased cooling of power controllers to make them more efficient.
Remap of the power controller with cars with individual motors on each wheel for different fwd/rwd/4wd/differential characteristics.
Bolt on bettery upgrades for more power or longer range.
The electronics / electrical engineer is going to have a field day..
The clever money will be on providing a simple interface to the complex electronics allowing the average Joe to select different functions for their car without having to understand software/electronics....
Alter or replace the motor to give more power
Alter or replace the motor to give more torque.
Remap of the power controller.
Increased cooling of power controllers to make them more efficient.
Remap of the power controller with cars with individual motors on each wheel for different fwd/rwd/4wd/differential characteristics.
Bolt on bettery upgrades for more power or longer range.
The electronics / electrical engineer is going to have a field day..
The clever money will be on providing a simple interface to the complex electronics allowing the average Joe to select different functions for their car without having to understand software/electronics....
hondansx said:
Ha!
Think it will more about what stereo, TV and coffee maker you choose.
Premium brands will increase relationships with other premium brands, building on the likes of Bang & Olufsen stereos in cars at the moment.
Check it out, I've just upgraded my Breval cheese toasty maker to a George Foreman Grill #winningwithadriptrayThink it will more about what stereo, TV and coffee maker you choose.
Premium brands will increase relationships with other premium brands, building on the likes of Bang & Olufsen stereos in cars at the moment.
Additional cooling for batteries, power management and motors to allow access to higher performance modes for longer.
Adding a supercap bank to increase braking energy recovery and peak acceleration power availability. EV version of NOS basically.
Swap power handling modules to allow higher output from larger supercap bank to feed to motor.
Swap/rewind motor to higher output version.
Instrumentation mods to manage said supercap bank etc.
More cooling.
Adding a supercap bank to increase braking energy recovery and peak acceleration power availability. EV version of NOS basically.
Swap power handling modules to allow higher output from larger supercap bank to feed to motor.
Swap/rewind motor to higher output version.
Instrumentation mods to manage said supercap bank etc.
More cooling.
SuperBaaaad said:
ZOLLAR said:
...why the need to customise your car?
This makes me a bit sad. People who are into cars have always customised them to varying degrees - making them individual etc.
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