Want A Vantage - Unsure How Deep To Jump In!

Want A Vantage - Unsure How Deep To Jump In!

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Big Ry

1,678 posts

119 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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kbooker said:
....go all in would be my advice, the V8 isn't all that...
A brave statement there soldier, tin hat at the ready I hope wink

GameofCars

850 posts

109 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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AstonV said:
Don't know where you get off saying the S has a tighter steering rack, never heard that one before?
I don't get 'off' as you say furious

Review of the V8VS in Autocar:

"The real advances concern the car’s steering, which has a quicker, sharper rack" Full review:-

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/aston-martin/...

hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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GameofCars said:
AstonV said:
Don't know where you get off saying the S has a tighter steering rack, never heard that one before?
I don't get 'off' as you say furious

Review of the V8VS in Autocar:

"The real advances concern the car’s steering, which has a quicker, sharper rack" Full review:-

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/aston-martin/...
Yes that was on the V8 S launch. Later the standard V8 benefits from the same upgrades. Get Grant's book for all the detail.

bentley01

1,002 posts

136 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Big Ry said:
Everyone else has had a say so I thought I would too.

From what the OP has said, if I were him I'd rule out a V12. It sounds like he's going to need significant finance to stretch to a V12, and for me at least that can seriously take the enjoyment out of anything, be it an Aston or a house. There's no fun in dreading payment date every month. Couple the finance with the not insignificant running costs of an Aston and I would bet that it would be a short love affair before he would be looking to get out of it.

I've got no knowledge of the N430 at all so can't comment on that, but for me the sweet spot of the range is probably the V8S. Having owned a V8, V8S and V12, I think that the V8S is the better everyday usable option. The V12 is epic and very very special, but all other Aston options are equally as special, just in different ways.

In short, my advice would be not to hock yourself up into stupid amounts of debt that you're uncomfortable with for a car, it's just not worth it, regardless what car it might be. Borrowing for a car is one thing (I have finance on my V12), but it needs to be at a level that it doesn't impact any other aspect of your life. Whenever I've taken finance for a car I always ask myself "does this mean there are now other things I can't do.......holidays etc). If the answer is yes, then I'll forget about it. A car is supposed to be something fun to enjoy, don't let it become a millstone around your neck.

Go for something you can comfortably afford and run that for a while, if you're then are in a position to move on to something else and feel the need then great, if not or you don't want to then that's equally OK. Loads of people will tell you V12 V12 V12 as it's the biggest and baddest, but remember they're not the ones having to pay for it each month..!

I know we can all get carried away at times, but the last thing you want is buyers regret, especially on a car as it'll cost you dear to get out of it.

Go and drive the 4.3 and 4.7 back to back, however DON'T drive a V12 unless you are genuinely serious, as you'll end getting mugged by the V12 monkey I promise you..........many others on here have suffered the same fate, me included laugh

Whatever you choose to do just enjoy the journey, that's the most important thing thumbup

That's my two cents worth anyway.
Great post and I agree. Over stretching for an expensive car does not bring happy contented ownership.

Likeomg

164 posts

98 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Go and drive the 4.3 and 4.7 back to back, however DON'T drive a V12 unless you are genuinely serious, as you'll end getting mugged by the V12 monkey I promise you..........many others on here have suffered the same fate, me included laugh



THIS!

We had a v8 vant for approx 5 years only managing 6k miles due to being out the country for extended periods and it was the Sunday car;

Pretty happy with it but in the last year or so it started to feel a bit slow in a straight line after getting a B8 RS4 as the family car stil much more fun and engaging than the audi but didn't feel 'fast'

Anyway, November last year get the call 'we have a performance driver in, would you like to take a car out for a few hours'...

Safe to say a V12VSR was purchased a few weeks later... rolleyes

tgclowes

198 posts

116 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I bought an N430 over a V8s purely because I fancied something a bit different without being too outlandish (I've got black with grey detailing). Plus as I was at the higher end of V8 pricing I wanted something that would potentially depreciate a little slower than a 'standard' V8s. Whether this actually happens or not is yet to be seen.

Same as you OP, getting into a V12 would have involved getting an older one and potentially financing which I personally wanted to avoid.

Big Ry

1,678 posts

119 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Likeomg said:
Safe to say a V12VSR was purchased a few weeks later... rolleyes
Another victim hehe

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Option 1 and a TVR biggrin

getmecoat

ajr550

489 posts

124 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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The things I have enjoyed most in life are those I felt I could not afford at the time !

AMDBSVNick

6,993 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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ajr550 said:
The things I have enjoyed most in life are those I felt I could not afford at the time !
Like a first divorce biglaugh

bentley01

1,002 posts

136 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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AMDBSVNick said:
Like a first divorce biglaugh
Maybe the reason for the divorce!

bogie

16,381 posts

272 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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GameofCars said:
AstonV said:
Don't know where you get off saying the S has a tighter steering rack, never heard that one before?
I don't get 'off' as you say furious

Review of the V8VS in Autocar:

"The real advances concern the car’s steering, which has a quicker, sharper rack" Full review:-

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/aston-martin/...
from MY2012.25 all Vantages got the quicker rack, not just the "S" ...and a lot of other "S" upgrades became standard, like the bigger brakes, even the suspension on the Roadster. This continued until such a time the only model you can buy is an "S" smile

ripley500

387 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Don't forget that if you go for an early V12V that depreciation on them over the last few years has been minimal. Buying a V12V at £75-85K now means you won't lose too much as residuals are holding up well. The V8 is an awesome car, the V12 is truly special.

Mr.Tremlini

1,464 posts

101 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Big Ry said:
There's no fun in dreading payment date every month. Couple the finance with the not insignificant running costs of an Aston and I would bet that it would be a short love affair before he would be looking to get out of it.
In short, my advice would be not to hock yourself up into stupid amounts of debt that you're uncomfortable with for a car, it's just not worth it, regardless what car it might be. A car is supposed to be something fun to enjoy, don't let it become a millstone around your neck.

Go for something you can comfortably afford and run that for a while, if you're then are in a position to move on to something else and feel the need then great, if not or you don't want to then that's equally OK. Loads of people will tell you V12 V12 V12 as it's the biggest and baddest, but remember they're not the ones having to pay for it each month..!
I know we can all get carried away at times, but the last thing you want is buyers regret, especially on a car as it'll cost you dear to get out of it.
Cold said:
The V8 cars are all the same aside from a few detail differences which really do not justify the extra expenditure. Just buy the cheapest and best condition one of those. You'll still have an Aston and the neighbours won't know you've only spent £30k.
Money in the bank, nice car on the drive.
Some good points above.
Finance is fine but if you can pocket a Vantage with money in the bank then fantastic, it`s yours and yours alone! I`m sure everyone on here fell for the look of the Vantage before everything else, and from an appearance perspective not a lot changed in 12 years... sure there is more power, different amounts of carbon fibre or cylinders, and buttons in different places on the dash, but at it`s core it is still an Aston Martin Vantage, and for a lot of us that is what we want. I`m fairly certain that for 95% of Vantage owners it`s not about bragging rights, lap times, 0-60`s or how effective the "personal" enlargement pump in the glove box is, but pure satisfaction and enjoyment.

I paid cash for my 4.3 which I preferred over comparable 4.7 versions that were around at the time and still within my target, as it didn`t really add up in my mind, man maths be damned, I really like beans but enjoy tuna sashimi and NZ lamb as well! I`ve tarted it up with a few carbon bits and what not as I have been able to and in my third year with the car I adore it and the way it looks. When I recently had a hefty service bill which included a new tail light, front light washer unit, brakes, and battery it made me wince, but I paid it without having to be worried that 40k of the car was still on tick and there were sizeable payments every month.



Edited by Mr.Tremlini on Thursday 11th January 22:44

kbooker

728 posts

139 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Big Ry said:
kbooker said:
....go all in would be my advice, the V8 isn't all that...
A brave statement there soldier, tin hat at the ready I hope wink
lol, it's on...you know it's true though "however DON'T drive a V12 unless you are genuinely serious" wink

V8V Pete

2,497 posts

126 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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OP - if you've not seen this yet then I think it will help biggrin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkAT82-R0S8&t=...

B4rnst4ble

790 posts

149 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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AMDBSVNick said:
ajr550 said:
The things I have enjoyed most in life are those I felt I could not afford at the time !
Like a first divorce biglaugh
That’s why divorce costs so much because it’s worth it :big laugh:
Op do what you are comfortable with you will love which ever car you choose and it will become a keeper all my previously sold cars were !! You can always go down the car upgrade route or simply upgrade with a new car when the itch happens

hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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V8V Pete said:
OP - if you've not seen this yet then I think it will help biggrin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkAT82-R0S8&t=...
Thanks for the reminder. Early coffee break

Cockernee

3,059 posts

160 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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DO NOT DRIVE A V12V. If you do, you will buy it. Although the mere fact that you put it as an option, go drive one.

I have owned V8V & V12V in the past and I bought another V12V last year, so would shove 50K on the mortgage at 1.5% and buy the bloody V12V biggrin they will not seriously depreciate anyway and then you have a V12 6 speed MANual smile Either that or get a Virgin Money card at 0% transfer and throw 15K on that.

YOLO...

leerandle

743 posts

107 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Cockernee said:
DO NOT DRIVE A V12V. If you do, you will buy it. Although the mere fact that you put it as an option, go drive one.

I have owned V8V & V12V in the past and I bought another V12V last year, so would shove 50K on the mortgage at 1.5% and buy the bloody V12V biggrin they will not seriously depreciate anyway and then you have a V12 6 speed MANual smile Either that or get a Virgin Money card at 0% transfer and throw 15K on that.

YOLO...
Now that's my kind of thinking..............beer