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[Jon39]

SpeckledJim said:

Players aren't allowed to interfere with a keeper kicking from his hands.

But if a dozy keeper hasn't noticed an opposition player behind him, and rolls the ball out ready to kick it from the ground, then he's fair game to get mugged.

Thank you.

In the examples that I watched, the keeper threw the ball upwards, in preparation for his kick, then the opposition player had to lift his foot very high to deflect the ball towards himself. Simply turned around and kicked the ball into an open goal. A neat trick and as you have just expained, interesting that it does count as a goal. The opponent did not even touch the goalkeeper.

[RichB]

Jon39 said:

SpeckledJim said:

Players aren't allowed to interfere with a keeper kicking from his hands. But if a dozy keeper hasn't noticed an opposition player behind him, and rolls the ball out ready to kick it from the ground, then he's fair game to get mugged.

Thank you.

In the examples that I watched, the keeper threw the ball upwards, in preparation for his kick, then the opposition player had to lift his foot very high to deflect the ball towards himself. Simply turned around and kicked the ball into an open goal. A neat trick and as you have just explained, interesting that it does count as a goal. The opponent did not even touch the goalkeeper.

As with all things relating to the laws of football it is open to the referee's opinion. There is a law that can generally be summerised as 'high kicking' (there's another catch-all known as 'dangerous play') a ref can consider a high-kick as an infringement or he could disallow the goal if he considered it dangerous play. Of course how high is high and what is dangerous is very much open to debate. The goalscorer would consider his actions to be fine while the goalkeeper would insist it bordered on common assault!

Edited by RichB on Monday 6th March 13:21

[SpeckledJim]

Jon39 said:

SpeckledJim said:

Players aren't allowed to interfere with a keeper kicking from his hands.

But if a dozy keeper hasn't noticed an opposition player behind him, and rolls the ball out ready to kick it from the ground, then he's fair game to get mugged.

Thank you.

In the examples that I watched, the keeper threw the ball upwards, in preparation for his kick, then the opposition player had to lift his foot very high to deflect the ball towards himself. Simply turned around and kicked the ball into an open goal. A neat trick and as you have just expained, interesting that it does count as a goal. The opponent did not even touch the goalkeeper.

I think those clips you've seen may be quite old? If it's as I'm imagining, then an opposition player doing that now would be booked for unsporting behaviour and any goal resulting would be disallowed.

But if the keeper throws the ball onto the pitch in front of him, in preparation for kicking it from the ground, then it's in play and fair game.

(why are we talking about this? )

[Jon39]

SpeckledJim said:

(why are we talking about this? )

Perhaps a 4,571 post, OP privilege.

I don't think our off topic discussion will last long though.
My knowledge of football is very limited;

It's a game of two halves.
We woz robbed.
That ref. has forgotten his white stick again.
We had 99% of the game. It was the other 3% that cost us the match.
"Well, Clive, it’s all about the two M’s—movement and positioning."
"I’d like to play for an Italian club, like Barcelona."
“If you closed your eyes, you couldn’t tell the difference between the two sides”
“I’ve told the players we need to win, so that I can have the cash to buy some new ones.”
“In terms of the Richter scale, this was a Force 8 gale.”
“I felt a lump in my mouth as the ball went in.”
“I would have given my right arm to be a pianist.”
“The beauty of cup football, is that Jack always has a chance of beating Goliath.”
'I wouldn't say I was the best manager in the business. But I was in the top one.'
'Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.’

Edited by Jon39 on Monday 6th March 21:09

[12TS]

Valkyrie impressions out now

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/2023-as...

I see Henry Catchpole is doing a story on it for the intercooler as well.

[Jon39]

Stock Markets. Emotion. An expression by thousands of different opinions.



Where is the queue for the window sill?




Happy days.

[ferrisbueller]

12TS said:

Valkyrie impressions out now

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/2023-as...

I see Henry Catchpole is doing a story on it for the intercooler as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNQPNtMYITk

Chris Harris' bit on it.

[Jon39]

Some coffee time idle moments, with Aston Martin accounts.

PRE-TAX PROFIT/LOSS TOTALS

2000 to 2010 total profit ..... = £137 million.

2011 to 2020 total loss ...... = £1007 million.

2000 to 2022 total loss ..... = £1·579 billion.


Oh well, it is only money.
Forget about that, someone has always paid. -
Continue producing wonderful cars.

Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 15th March 18:52

[Jon39]

Oil prices appear to have been a major market influence today.

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[oilit]

I was reading that there seems to be a few manufacturers pushing back on the ice ban in Europe. I am assuming that the synthetic fuel is their answer to the ev route.

Wonder if the AM V12 could run on synthetic fuels - is it like E10 etc or is there likely to be no backward compatibility? if the ban gets overturned this would solve one of the questions at AM wouldnt it?

[Jon39]

oilit said:

I was reading that there seems to be a few manufacturers pushing back on the ice ban in Europe. I am assuming that the synthetic fuel is their answer to the ev route.

Wonder if the AM V12 could run on synthetic fuels - is it like E10 etc or is there likely to be no backward compatibility? if the ban gets overturned this would solve one of the questions at AM wouldnt it?

Yes, am slightly vague about this, but think the EU recently failed to vote on imposing their expected 2035 new IC sales ban.

Porsche seem very keen on synthetic fuels. Believe they recently spoke about a synthetic fuel manufacturing plant in South America.
The problem will always be, that only a miniscule quantity (compared to crude oil) could ever be produced. A few 911s and are F1 cars going to use it?

[Jon39]

Current news extracts.

"Because for the average person, Aston Martin is one of the greatest aspirational brands in the world, especially if you like cars.
It's up there with Ferrari.

In commercial terms, the privately owned Aston Martin F1 team (not owned by the road car company) has been a consistently strong performer as the number of brand names on the car attests.
The team has not one but two title sponsors in Cognizant and Aramco – or three if you count the financial contribution made by the road car company – but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

In fact, the team is now generating around eight times the sponsorship income that it did in 2020, the last year it ran as Racing Point. That's an impressive effort by any standards, and it says a lot about the appeal of the Aston Martin name.'


- - and the Aston Martin name is being lent free (in fact in addition, AML even pay about £23 milion a year).
Hopefully the reward to Aston Martin Lagonda, will be a huge and sustainable increase, in the sales of road cars to F1 fans.

[Simpo Two]

Jon39 said:

Current news extracts.

"Because for the average person, Aston Martin is one of the greatest aspirational brands in the world, especially if you like cars.
It's up there with Ferrari.

In commercial terms, the privately owned Aston Martin F1 team (not owned by the road car company) has been a consistently strong performer as the number of brand names on the car attests.
The team has not one but two title sponsors in Cognizant and Aramco – or three if you count the financial contribution made by the road car company – but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

In fact, the team is now generating around eight times the sponsorship income that it did in 2020, the last year it ran as Racing Point. That's an impressive effort by any standards, and it says a lot about the appeal of the Aston Martin name.'


- - and the Aston Martin name is being lent free (in fact in addition, AML even pay about £23 milion a year).
Hopefully the reward to Aston Martin Lagonda, will be a huge and sustainable increase, in the sales of road cars to F1 fans.

They will need to sell a hell of a lot of cars to F1 fans.

Quite how Stroll got to put a company logo on one product and then get another company to pay him £23M a year to use their own logo is an achievement I'd be proud of.

[RichB]

Simpo Two said:

...Quite how Stroll got to put a company logo on one product and then get another company to pay him £23M a year to use their own logo is an achievement I'd be proud of.

I think we'd all be proud if we could have generated $$$ multi-millions flogging Tommy Hillbilly T-shirts in Canada too!

[Petrus1983]

Simpo Two said:

They will need to sell a hell of a lot of cars to F1 fans.

Quite how Stroll got to put a company logo on one product and then get another company to pay him £23M a year to use their own logo is an achievement I'd be proud of.

Equates to £3,600 per car produced. As silly as it sounds I’m starting to think it’s worth it on the grand scheme of things.

[Jon39]

Petrus1983 said:

Simpo Two said:

They will need to sell a hell of a lot of cars to F1 fans.

Quite how Stroll got to put a company logo on one product and then get another company to pay him £23M a year to use their own logo is an achievement I'd be proud of.

Equates to £3,600 per car produced. As silly as it sounds I’m starting to think it’s worth it on the grand scheme of things.

The three years payments so far, were supposed to produce additional increased sales though.

Do you have any ideas about the total sponsorship value to Lawrence Stroll ?
Don't bother adding on the annual £23 millon payment, that won't make much difference.

[Simpo Two]

RichB said:

Simpo Two said:

...Quite how Stroll got to put a company logo on one product and then get another company to pay him £23M a year to use their own logo is an achievement I'd be proud of.

I think we'd all be proud if we could have generated $$$ multi-millions flogging Tommy Hillbilly T-shirts in Canada too!

And did I just hear Alonso say that he's driving for free???

[ferrisbueller]

20m Euro according to the internet.

[AdamV12V]

The 2022 annual report out today makes for interesting reading….



http://www.astonmartinlagonda.com/investors/annual...

[12TS]

"Whilst not foreseen as a 2022 objective, led by our Chairman Lawrence Stroll, this year we have also welcomed significant new investment through the
successful completion of the £654m equity capital raise that strengthens our financial position and enhances our pathway to becoming sustainably free cash flow positive from 2024"

Bit of a thing not to foresee!