That didn’t take long - Zag Volante for sale

That didn’t take long - Zag Volante for sale

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RobDown

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3,803 posts

128 months

AMDBSVNick

6,995 posts

162 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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There is a legitimate reason.

Big E 118

2,410 posts

169 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Lovely looking thing.........now if I could trade in my Vantage for about £800K I'd go for that!!


Big Ry

1,678 posts

119 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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For someone to flip it that quick they must have seriously fallen on hard times.........maybe the owners Bitcoin collection shat itself rofl

Joking aside.....stunning car, although I hope the owner isn't wanting another special soon, as if Dr Palmer is to be believed then he might struggle

M5MarkM

1,555 posts

171 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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It is a shame when people who would have bought and kept the car lose out.

tgclowes

198 posts

116 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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AMDBSVNick said:
There is a legitimate reason.
Be interesting to hear what this is, I'm sure (hoping) it wasn't do lightly.

What a fabulous looking thing.

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Not for me i much prefer the coupe, which i love.

Big Ry

1,678 posts

119 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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One question I have is why the owner wouldn't have tried to re-sell it via an MD ? I don't know the ins and outs regarding what MD's are allowed to do around this sort of thing, but surely the likes of Works would have a list of people who perhaps wanted one but couldn't get it.

Had they gone down that route then the car would have changed hands privately for an undisclosed sum, not advertised anywhere and nobody would have been any the wiser.

The fact that it's actually being sold via a third party dealer for a sizeable premium does kind of smack of flipping, although I clearly don't know the circumstances.

Could it be that it's being advertised as there aren't people queuing to get their hands on them ?

I do however like the way Romans felt the need list the price of the option extras. I'm sure the buyer dropping nearly £900k is going to be impressed that the original buyer opted for side strakes at £1662 rofl

RobDown

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3,803 posts

128 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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AMDBSVNick said:
There is a legitimate reason.
There will always be people falling on hard times and being forced to sell (there but for the grace of god go I etc). So in that respect the seller has my genuine sympathies.

But my sympathy is somewhat mitigated by seeing a near £300k mark-up on a car that was presumably delivered to the customer in the last few weeks and where the car is now being sold through an independent rather than main dealer (and where those who wanted to buy one of these and keep it were denied the opportunity to do so).

I'll give the seller the benefit of the doubt on the car being specced in resale silver and assume it was his/her favourite colour and that he/she never intended to flip it from day 1 even in better circumstances smile

Edited by RobDown on Friday 2nd February 11:30

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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RobDown said:
But my sympathy is somewhat mitigated by seeing a near £300k mark-up on a car that was presumably delivered to the customer in the last few weeks and where the car is now being sold through an independent rather than main dealer (and where those who wanted to buy one of these and keep it were denied the opportunity to do so).
To be fair if there is a legitimate reason and someone has to sell no-one is going to give it back to the main dealer and lose £300k on a principle.

Would you?

Agree most things do point to it being a flip though.

HBradley

1,037 posts

181 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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'Legitimate' could mean anything & if it's something horrendous they have my sympathies, but surely if he/she has fallen on hard times they wouldn't be asking for a £300k mark-up, they would be pricing it nearer the purchase price?

wtdoom

3,742 posts

208 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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HBradley said:
'Legitimate' could mean anything & if it's something horrendous they have my sympathies, but surely if he/she has fallen on hard times they wouldn't be asking for a £300k mark-up, they would be pricing it nearer the purchase price?
If you have fallen on hard times surely you would do the exact opposite of that and try to get as much money as possible or the car .
After all I can't see the owner being literally starving

RobDown

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3,803 posts

128 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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R8Steve said:
RobDown said:
But my sympathy is somewhat mitigated by seeing a near £300k mark-up on a car that was presumably delivered to the customer in the last few weeks and where the car is now being sold through an independent rather than main dealer (and where those who wanted to buy one of these and keep it were denied the opportunity to do so).
To be fair if there is a legitimate reason and someone has to sell no-one is going to give it back to the main dealer and lose £300k on a principle.

Would you?

Agree most things do point to it being a flip though.
This is going a bit off-topic. But i agree; it wouldn't be reasonable to expect the seller, particularly if they've fallen on hard times, to give up a massive premium, I doubt any of us would do anything different if the circumstances are those.

Just saying that my sympathy for their position is tempered a little by seeing that the can flip the car for an immediate profit that represents more money than most people in this country will ever dream of having

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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I'd have thought if it was flipped the owner would be reminded by AM that they cannot expect to be given the opportunity to purchase future specials, limited run cars or attend confidential events.

If it's being flipped, I suppose it depends if the customer was an avid fan of the marque or just saw it as a business venture type purchase and wouldn't care about the ramifications. The Valkyrie was the first car that I think it was publicly stated that flipping would result in black listing from future build slots etc.

Lovely car though, I've seen more Zag coupes than Volantes, but they're all wonderful.

Big Ry

1,678 posts

119 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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R8Steve said:
To be fair if there is a legitimate reason and someone has to sell no-one is going to give it back to the main dealer and lose £300k on a principle.
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I would have thought some dealers would have a directory of people who may be interested (even at a premium), so to me there are four possibilities:

1) The owner has tried that option and had no bites via MD's.
2) The MD's told him to poke it and they they wouldn't hit up their valued customers for a 300k premium.
3) There aren't people queuing up for them....well not at that price.
4) I don't know what i'm talking about.

I didn't realise the premium was quite that much to be honest, I thought these were £750k, so that makes it even worse.

By all means, sell it for the most you can get, but I bet that's the last special that customer is going to get from AML.

Edited by Big Ry on Friday 2nd February 12:08

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Well, i think all that's happened is that the cars arrived and now the buyer has realized it looks st in that colour and wants a Black one.

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Crazy money

RobDown

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3,803 posts

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Friday 2nd February 2018
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cayman-black said:
Well, i think all that's happened is that the cars arrived and now the buyer has realized it looks st in that colour and wants a Black one.
laugh

davek_964

8,813 posts

175 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Doesn't look at all special for that kind of money. Think my old Vantage looks just as good, and I get to keep about £840,000 in change.


Although I seem to have mislaid that at the moment

RL17

1,231 posts

93 months

Friday 2nd February 2018
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Looks like the car had an unexpected warning light on forcing sale

Low fuel