PPF - Please tell me this isn't right.........

PPF - Please tell me this isn't right.........

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Big Ry

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1,678 posts

118 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Just been for a mooch about at Works and they have two MF V12S SIII tin tops, very nice indeed. However, on closer inspection of one of them I realised that car had a frontal PPF..........then when looking closer.......WTF is this !!!!!!

Please somebody tell me this is not how it's supposed to be.....look at the wing mirror FFS confused




















ripley500

387 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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I’ve never had PPF on any car but if that’s what it’s like then I’d rather not.

a98pmalcolm

213 posts

76 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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I understand its meant to protect the paint but I don't know why people use it as its looks worse than a couple of stone chips... If that happens...

8Tech

2,136 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Perfect example of why I would never have it on my car. I would rather save the cost and have the chips painted every few years.

bogie

16,342 posts

271 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Lets just say thats not the best of an example of PPF application ...thankfully.... and it also looks a little off colour. The best stuff stays transparent for years and the application is a lot tighter.

Ive had it on 2 cars, both black, and unless I used the wrong kind of polish that left a residue that got caught on an edge you would struggle to see it, the lines really followed panel lines very closely

Handyman2009

165 posts

102 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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You are correct that is one of the worst installation I have seen, the edges are usually wrapped around the back side so you don't see the film. I had my Jaguar XE done last fall and you cant tell the entire nose is clear protected. If you paid for that get reimburse

johnnyBv8

2,417 posts

190 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Those pics show a not particularly good installation, but I removed the ppf on my car as it came half way up the bonnet and across the wings and across the door mirror caps, and I noticed it every time I walked up to the car...now taking a chance on a few stone chips instead!

divetheworld

2,565 posts

134 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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We've got the V12V and DBS full front wrapped in PPF and I can say without any doubt, it's not like that!!
Every edge is wrapped under the panel. The bonnet vents were removed to get the film properly applied under them. The mirror film is heated and stretched on. It's totally seamless. That looks like a DiY kit.

It just goes to show, just because you can jump in the ring, doesn't mean you can box.

Phil74891

1,064 posts

132 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Yuk. Clearly a low end attempt. I wouldn’t touch the stuff myself. Machine polish and ceramic coating much better. After 13k miles my black Aston has picked up maybe a dozen stone chips, which I’ve fixed to a high standard with a Chipex kit. I’ll just get the front end repainted if it gets out of hand.

Out of interest, I’d like to know what a high end PPF costs. Nobody ever seems to own up?

kiethton

13,883 posts

179 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Watched a TGE video yesterday....

Apparently a full satin PPF on a nearly new Aventador by DUB/topaz was ~£5.2k

Edited by kiethton on Friday 20th April 08:42

divetheworld

2,565 posts

134 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Phil74891 said:
Yuk. Clearly a low end attempt. I wouldn’t touch the stuff myself. Machine polish and ceramic coating much better. After 13k miles my black Aston has picked up maybe a dozen stone chips, which I’ve fixed to a high standard with a Chipex kit. I’ll just get the front end repainted if it gets out of hand.

Out of interest, I’d like to know what a high end PPF costs. Nobody ever seems to own up?
I don't have much in the way of quotes, but here's what I've got.
Expel Ultimate -
V12V Full bonnet - £400 inc VAT
V12V Front kit including bumper, splitter etc to rear of headlamps but with full bonnet. Side sills fully covered. Wing mirrors. Rear gravel rash protection behind wheels (diffuser/ish). £1,250 + VAT
V12V Full bonnet, two front wings full covers + DBS full front wing covers £1000 + VAT

I ended up with full front coverage all over to the back of the front wings. Full sills and rear arches to the waist line and rear diffuser covered.
It's a lot of piece of mind. Plus - cleaning heavy soiling and bug splats isn't a worry either anymore.

RobDown

3,803 posts

127 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Big Ry said:
Just been for a mooch about at Works and they have two MF V12S SIII tin tops, very nice indeed. However, on closer inspection of one of them I realised that car had a frontal PPF..........then when looking closer.......WTF is this !!!!!!

Please somebody tell me this is not how it's supposed to be.....look at the wing mirror FFS :confused
That's not how it's supposed to be. The line across the roof rail makes me want to weep.

To do PPF properly you have the sheets designed specifically for the car. And it wraps around the edges so you don't see the edges. You should have to look hard to notice that the car has it

That's been done by some cowboy.

prefurbia

22 posts

103 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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I had even a worse job at Morries Aston Martin, they had just switched methods and I demanded they change it, and they fully admitted the botch job and upgraded the materials and did an outstanding job on the car including paint correction and ceramic coating - no extra charge - I'd demand a complete redo.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Phil74891 said:
Yuk. Clearly a low end attempt. I wouldn’t touch the stuff myself. Machine polish and ceramic coating much better. After 13k miles my black Aston has picked up maybe a dozen stone chips, which I’ve fixed to a high standard with a Chipex kit. I’ll just get the front end repainted if it gets out of hand.

Out of interest, I’d like to know what a high end PPF costs. Nobody ever seems to own up?
Topaz are the go to guys for most of the prestige dealers in these parts (Aston included). The Bristol branch is just about to open if it hasn't already. Typically a full car PPF would be between £3.5k - 5k. That's for every panel, cut from database templates. The process for application requires quite a bit of disassembly of the car as the film needs to return to the back of panels, rather than the example shown above where it's more like graphics that stop at shut lines, and has been laid on like some 1990's wallpaper...

AMTony

1,074 posts

166 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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divetheworld said:
Phil74891 said:
Yuk. Clearly a low end attempt. I wouldn’t touch the stuff myself. Machine polish and ceramic coating much better. After 13k miles my black Aston has picked up maybe a dozen stone chips, which I’ve fixed to a high standard with a Chipex kit. I’ll just get the front end repainted if it gets out of hand.

Out of interest, I’d like to know what a high end PPF costs. Nobody ever seems to own up?
I don't have much in the way of quotes, but here's what I've got.
Expel Ultimate -
V12V Full bonnet - £400 inc VAT
V12V Front kit including bumper, splitter etc to rear of headlamps but with full bonnet. Side sills fully covered. Wing mirrors. Rear gravel rash protection behind wheels (diffuser/ish). £1,250 + VAT
V12V Full bonnet, two front wings full covers + DBS full front wing covers £1000 + VAT

I ended up with full front coverage all over to the back of the front wings. Full sills and rear arches to the waist line and rear diffuser covered.
It's a lot of piece of mind. Plus - cleaning heavy soiling and bug splats isn't a worry either anymore.
Can you pm me (or list on here) who did your application? Am in the NW and looking for a company to do my sons car.

I had my car painted at Works and then wrapped by them. Trust me when I say, all those that say polishes work - they don't!

Wrapping is also considerably cheaper than painting.......having had mine done I know.

BTW, can't reccomend Works enough. They made a brilliant job on my car as you would expect.

HBradley

1,037 posts

180 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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divetheworld said:
I don't have much in the way of quotes, but here's what I've got.
Expel Ultimate -
V12V Full bonnet - £400 inc VAT
V12V Front kit including bumper, splitter etc to rear of headlamps but with full bonnet. Side sills fully covered. Wing mirrors. Rear gravel rash protection behind wheels (diffuser/ish). £1,250 + VAT
V12V Full bonnet, two front wings full covers + DBS full front wing covers £1000 + VAT

I ended up with full front coverage all over to the back of the front wings. Full sills and rear arches to the waist line and rear diffuser covered.
It's a lot of piece of mind. Plus - cleaning heavy soiling and bug splats isn't a worry either anymore.
& the scuff plates are also easy to PPF as well

RJ5560

79 posts

187 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Phil74891 said:
After 13k miles my black Aston has picked up maybe a dozen stone chips, which I’ve fixed to a high standard with a Chipex kit. I’ll just get the front end repainted if it gets out of hand.
Your comment on Chipex is interesting. I have seen various adverts and reviews which look good but I have been wary of considering it for the DB9. It is that good in your opinion? I am after something that will do a few stone chips on Tungsten. Thanks

CraigV12V

304 posts

152 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Phil74891 said:
Yuk. Clearly a low end attempt. I wouldn’t touch the stuff myself. Machine polish and ceramic coating much better. After 13k miles my black Aston has picked up maybe a dozen stone chips, which I’ve fixed to a high standard with a Chipex kit. I’ll just get the front end repainted if it gets out of hand.

Out of interest, I’d like to know what a high end PPF costs. Nobody ever seems to own up?
Got my V12VS Roadster PPF'd in March. Full front end including splitter, sills, windscreen surround, wing mirrors and front of rear arches - £1,500 and I'm happy with results especially having just paid £2k to have a few panels with marks repainted, knowing I would probably either have to do same again next year or live with an ever increasing chipped front end.

bananarob

1,177 posts

180 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Paintshield in Peterborough do amazing pff. Wouldn’t use anyone else. The car in the OP is shocking. Mirror wise, I don’t believe anyone can do without a break in the film.

telum01

987 posts

114 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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PPF done right can't be seen. If you can see the lines, edges, etc, it was done wrong. Hopefully the person that did the shoddy installation didn't use an epoxy as well... say goodbye to your paint if so (happened to my red V8V).