Aston DBS - Puzzled by a gear lever issue
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Hello all,
I am coming again to share an issue I have on my manual Aston DBS (2008) I am repairing.
A bit of background first:
It's a front crashed car, but without any frame damage, only bodywork. I am doing the reparations entirely myself and want to keep the car for my collection. One of the main job was to open the front V engine cover (distribution cover) where some parts of the right cam cover fell inside during the crash. Hopefully I could remove every little parts (hopefully). Fate will tell when I start up the engine haha. I will post some pictures if anyone is interested.
-> I am facing now an issue I have with the gear lever. I received the car with the gear lever disconnected in the front (the 2 ball joints inside the center console) and the gearbox in gear. After a bit of work, I removed the center console, pull on the ball joints / cables to put the gearbox in neutral. That works, because these two cables are properly connected to the gearbox in the back. Then, I thought the job was finished by just reconnecting the gear lever in neutral position.
Unfortunately, with the gearbox in neutral and the ball joints connected to the gear lever, this stick is sitting, NOT in the middle, but in the bottom right, which brings shifting possible to reach 1-3-5 and neutral, but not 2-4-6.
In a nutshell how could it be that the gearbox is in neutral, connected to the gear lever, and the latter not sitting in the center of its range ?
Thank you in advance ! I am taking some pictures this weekend if someone wants more details or if I am not clear !
PS : My CURRENT best guess is that the two selecting gear levers sitting on top of the gearbox have moved, and have now a wrong angle. If there is a way to place them in another angle, It would be the same as virtually "gain more length" on the two cables joining my gearlever and it would sit in the middle in neutral.
I am coming again to share an issue I have on my manual Aston DBS (2008) I am repairing.
A bit of background first:
It's a front crashed car, but without any frame damage, only bodywork. I am doing the reparations entirely myself and want to keep the car for my collection. One of the main job was to open the front V engine cover (distribution cover) where some parts of the right cam cover fell inside during the crash. Hopefully I could remove every little parts (hopefully). Fate will tell when I start up the engine haha. I will post some pictures if anyone is interested.
-> I am facing now an issue I have with the gear lever. I received the car with the gear lever disconnected in the front (the 2 ball joints inside the center console) and the gearbox in gear. After a bit of work, I removed the center console, pull on the ball joints / cables to put the gearbox in neutral. That works, because these two cables are properly connected to the gearbox in the back. Then, I thought the job was finished by just reconnecting the gear lever in neutral position.
Unfortunately, with the gearbox in neutral and the ball joints connected to the gear lever, this stick is sitting, NOT in the middle, but in the bottom right, which brings shifting possible to reach 1-3-5 and neutral, but not 2-4-6.
In a nutshell how could it be that the gearbox is in neutral, connected to the gear lever, and the latter not sitting in the center of its range ?
Thank you in advance ! I am taking some pictures this weekend if someone wants more details or if I am not clear !
PS : My CURRENT best guess is that the two selecting gear levers sitting on top of the gearbox have moved, and have now a wrong angle. If there is a way to place them in another angle, It would be the same as virtually "gain more length" on the two cables joining my gearlever and it would sit in the middle in neutral.
Edited by Archimedou on Monday 18th June 13:39
Edited by Archimedou on Monday 18th June 13:40
Place the gear selector in neutral and then carefully note where the two connection balls are located in space. Then see if you can move the two cables to achieve that position and still be in neutral. My thought is that there is more than one combination of cable positions that will select neutral.
Thanks. I think it doesn't change anything to place the lever in neutral, and then move the ball joints / cables to connect it afterwards: There is no difference in moving these cables by hand or with the lever.
Additional information: I think I can select any gear just by pulling on the two cables by hand and using them "logically". I will take some pictures this weekend.
I wonder about your thought of having more than one "neutral". Would someone confirm or deny that ?
Additional information: I think I can select any gear just by pulling on the two cables by hand and using them "logically". I will take some pictures this weekend.
I wonder about your thought of having more than one "neutral". Would someone confirm or deny that ?
Edited by Archimedou on Tuesday 19th June 16:20
Check your gear cables both have the orange selector forks and all springs present and correct, there’s a chance in the accident the longitudinal cable broke and the orange fork is missing??
If cables are good, with someone sat in car, lift car up on ramp. Have person hold the gear lever in the neutral position, pull down both orange forks, reset / centralise both cables (person in car will need to hold lever in the neutral position), then when cables are reset, push both orange locking forks back into position and the cables are reset.
Good luck!
Thank you very much Mike !
I didn't know the cables could be "reset" / length adjusted, using the orange fork :-)
Car is already on my lift, I just feel I don't see much. Would have been great to access from the inside rear central tunnel (as it is just on top of it), but I imagine there is no trapdoor.
I will work on it this weekend and let you know.
One more question: How can I disconnect the two cables ball joints from the gearbox ? Shall I simply pull on it or is there another way to do it ?
Again, your response is very appreciated, mystery solved :-)
I didn't know the cables could be "reset" / length adjusted, using the orange fork :-)
Car is already on my lift, I just feel I don't see much. Would have been great to access from the inside rear central tunnel (as it is just on top of it), but I imagine there is no trapdoor.
I will work on it this weekend and let you know.
One more question: How can I disconnect the two cables ball joints from the gearbox ? Shall I simply pull on it or is there another way to do it ?
Again, your response is very appreciated, mystery solved :-)
Edited by Archimedou on Wednesday 20th June 09:22
Edited by Archimedou on Wednesday 20th June 09:27
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