Buying my bother-in-law's car. Please help

[jonby]

S1-NOS said:

There's no benefit in him selling the car for the same price he'd get PX - unless he believes in charity.

It's not charity in any sense. There is no benefit but there is absolutely no downside either. Given the choice of getting the same money, in one instance doing a family member a favour and in the other, selling to a dealer, it's surely a no brainer unless family relations are that poor

You may also find yourself in a better position to negotiate a discount on the new car if you are no longer pxing.

[Bobajobbob]

Unless this your absolute dream car and spec I’d caution against buying a car from a relation, especially if you feel he’s already being a d1ck. If anything goes wrong you could fall out and it’s just not worth the aggro.

[joshcowin]

If you get on well don't buy it from him, he obviously doesn't want to do you a favour!

[was8v]

I never sell cars to friends or family.

You just know that at every wedding and funeral they will jape about that time I sold them a lemon. Because cars do go wrong, even £80k cars.

Equally I wouldn't buy one from them either, they would jape about how they sold it too cheap to me and did me a massive favour. If it did break and I had an inkling they had known something, I would hate them forever.

[cayman-black]

Bobajobbob said:

Unless this your absolute dream car and spec I’d caution against buying a car from a relation, especially if you feel he’s already being a d1ck. If anything goes wrong you could fall out and it’s just not worth the aggro.

I disagree , its a DBS with under 6k miles, get the deal done its sounds lovely.

£80k-£85k good deal.

Edited by cayman-black on Wednesday 11th July 11:31

[AdamV12V]

cayman-black said:

Bobajobbob said:

Unless this your absolute dream car and spec I’d caution against buying a car from a relation, especially if you feel he’s already being a d1ck. If anything goes wrong you could fall out and it’s just not worth the aggro.

I disagree , its a DBS with under 6k miles, get the deal done its sounds lovely.

£80k-£85k good deal.

I have to say I'm with bobajobbob on this one, mixing family with business usually ends in trouble / fall outs in my experience. I would rather pay more from a dealer than buy at a discount from family, (or perhaps even a friend for that matter).

Maybe you just have a lovely family CB, but many families are not that way inclined and the warning signal for me on this one is that the OP states his BIL is already being a c**k about it, even before a deal is agreed. I'd walk away and let the dealer have his way with him...

[Buster73]

You might want to bear in mind that dealers have a habit of paying an over allowance for part exchange value and showing no discount on the new car.

Then reducing the px value of the trade in then discounting the new car on invoice.

Nett balance to change is the same , but you wouldn’t want to be paying the over allowance trade in price .

[mirandamilly]

JaseB said:

See where this one ends up:
https://themarket.co.uk/listings/aston-martin/dbs/...

Ends tomorrow, can't be too dissimilar...

Not mine btw!

I understand that this car needs new ceramics! Hence the possible lack of interest from those that have had it inspected. I heard a quote of £13,500 to replace. I don't know why though. Could tracking a car kill ceramics? Or lack of regular use?

[cayman-black]

If its been tracked, that would definitely harm the CCBs especially if they have not been cooled down properly.

[cayman-black]

AdamV12V said:

cayman-black said:

Bobajobbob said:

Unless this your absolute dream car and spec I’d caution against buying a car from a relation, especially if you feel he’s already being a d1ck. If anything goes wrong you could fall out and it’s just not worth the aggro.

I disagree , its a DBS with under 6k miles, get the deal done its sounds lovely.

£80k-£85k good deal.

I have to say I'm with bobajobbob on this one, mixing family with business usually ends in trouble / fall outs in my experience. I would rather pay more from a dealer than buy at a discount from family, (or perhaps even a friend for that matter).

Maybe you just have a lovely family CB, but many families are not that way inclined and the warning signal for me on this one is that the OP states his BIL is already being a c**k about it, even before a deal is agreed. I'd walk away and let the dealer have his way with him...

Hmm you are probably both right ,but i,m just thinking about the car as there is not one available with low miles like that.
Plus if OP buys it he then has no further dealings with BIL about the car as it would be a private sale so that's the end of it, unless OP is a bit of a dick as well.

[belfry]

raceboy said:

https://used.astonmartin.com/en-GB/Search/Details~...

Wow! 2011 car, with warranty for £85,000 from Aston Martin. That'll kick my BIL in the nuts! I don't hugely value the low miles on his car as I understand that lack of use can be more harmful than getting out and driving the thing?

The numbers being suggested on here for me to offer him range from £62-85K which is a HUGE spread. I wish he'd just be transparent with me.

[anonymous-user]

mirandamilly said:

JaseB said:

See where this one ends up:
https://themarket.co.uk/listings/aston-martin/dbs/...

Ends tomorrow, can't be too dissimilar...

Not mine btw!

I understand that this car needs new ceramics! Hence the possible lack of interest from those that have had it inspected. I heard a quote of £13,500 to replace. I don't know why though. Could tracking a car kill ceramics? Or lack of regular use?

Really? This is from the gushing auction blurb: "The ceramic brakes are in very good condition, which is handy because a new set of four will set you back the best part of a five-figure sum…"

Two owners, sub 3.5k miles. If it's eaten a set of ceramics already through being tracked, I wonder what sort of life the not "even properly run in as it has fewer than 3,500 miles on the odometer," (also from the blurb) engine has had.



Isn't it a little bit warm this time of year to be doing that on start up (genuine question - not trying to be smart)?

[RobDown]

Big Ry said:

Charity........really.........it's family FFS !!!

I for one would not try and make money out of my own family, but each to their own.

+1

[belfry]

Greg66 said:

Isn't it a little bit warm this time of year to be doing that on start up (genuine question - not trying to be smart)?

I agree. 25 degrees and white smoke isn't right.

[dbs2000]

It's hard to tell from photos but if they all look like this (mirrored and shiny), then they're probably fine

Edited by dbs2000 on Wednesday 11th July 15:02

[AMVSVNick]

dbs2000 said:

It's hard to tell from photos but if they all look like this (mirrored and shiny), then they're probably fine

They look familiar

[JaseB]

belfry said:

Greg66 said:

Isn't it a little bit warm this time of year to be doing that on start up (genuine question - not trying to be smart)?

I agree. 25 degrees and white smoke isn't right.

Wouldn't surprise me if those pictures were taken in May tbh

[JaseB]

mirandamilly said:

I understand that this car needs new ceramics! Hence the possible lack of interest from those that have had it inspected. I heard a quote of £13,500 to replace. I don't know why though. Could tracking a car kill ceramics? Or lack of regular use?

Interesting, just checked with the auction company, it's just come out of storage and they're not aware of it being for sale before or having been viewed or inspected, be interested to know what you know - I was tempted to bid on it...

[dbs2000]

AMVSVNick said:

They look familiar

That's a shot from the car being auctioned matey but the TE's are identical

[MrB.]

belfry said:

I wish he'd just be transparent with me.

Whenever I'm buying a car, either for myself, or for the business, and I get told by the owner to make an offer, my usual response is "I can't be both buyer and seller."

Its his car and he knows what he wants for it. If you get on well, just ask him what he wants. If he asks you for an offer, make him one. Just make sure its a low one. That way when he laughs/scoffs/refuses, you can be sure he knows what he wants.

That being said, if he shakes your hand in a nano second, you know you've paid too much.....!