£60k V12V - am I missing something?
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I have noticed that some early V12V’s are in the 60-65k bracket, this one is the lowest I have seen so far:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Am I missing something, just natural de-valuation? Is there something bad about the earlier ones?
Not bothered about mileage particularly as long as the condition checks out.
In fairness I have a plan to buy in perhaps a year or so’s time, a wedding to get out the way first etc! Maybe that’s the wrong way round!!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Am I missing something, just natural de-valuation? Is there something bad about the earlier ones?
Not bothered about mileage particularly as long as the condition checks out.
In fairness I have a plan to buy in perhaps a year or so’s time, a wedding to get out the way first etc! Maybe that’s the wrong way round!!
Yes - KX reg plates are well known to be factory cars and the early ones such as this were quite often press cars so had a few laps sideways around tracks etc....
Anyway, 10 years on its hardly an issue as many other non factory cars could have led far worse lives, but I suspect in part it answers your question.
Anyway, 10 years on its hardly an issue as many other non factory cars could have led far worse lives, but I suspect in part it answers your question.
Hi urquattroGus
I think the problem may be with the potential costs involved if the CCM brakes need replacing. The discs can be ruined if chemical wheel cleaning products are used. Tracking the car can also cause problems. So for a car of this age, ie one of the very early V12Vs, the history needs to be very carefully checked and authenticated. As Adam said, the KX plated cars were the original demonstrators given to the car magazines and car TV shows, so likely took a beating. However, AM have a history of maintaining them to a very high standard before they are released in to the market. Have a search elsewhere on here as there have been some threads/posts recently regarding brake issues/replacement costs and also purchasing ex press cars.
Best Regards
Minglar
I think the problem may be with the potential costs involved if the CCM brakes need replacing. The discs can be ruined if chemical wheel cleaning products are used. Tracking the car can also cause problems. So for a car of this age, ie one of the very early V12Vs, the history needs to be very carefully checked and authenticated. As Adam said, the KX plated cars were the original demonstrators given to the car magazines and car TV shows, so likely took a beating. However, AM have a history of maintaining them to a very high standard before they are released in to the market. Have a search elsewhere on here as there have been some threads/posts recently regarding brake issues/replacement costs and also purchasing ex press cars.
Best Regards
Minglar
Edited by Minglar on Friday 4th January 17:24
AdamV12V said:
Yes - KX reg plates are well known to be factory cars and the early ones such as this were quite often press cars so had a few laps sideways around tracks etc....
Anyway, 10 years on its hardly an issue as many other non factory cars could have led far worse lives, but I suspect in part it answers your question.
Google images search says it was the first V12V to go up the hill at GoodwoodAnyway, 10 years on its hardly an issue as many other non factory cars could have led far worse lives, but I suspect in part it answers your question.
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/goodwood-...
Thanks guys, the CCB issues are definitely food for thought! Have any been converted to steel brakes?
I do prefer steel brakes in general in terms of feel and what can go wrong etc...
With regards to being a press car, if the condition checked out that wouldn’t bother me really, it would at 2 years old or so but not so much 10 years old if you get my drift.
Maybe they will dip into the late 50’s in a year or so? Really that seems to cheap for such a desirable model.
Quite aware that there will be running costs and risks etc, but somehow to me a V8V at 40k seems worse value than a V12V at 65k , the V8 is just not nearly as special.
I really want a manual V12 with good dynamics.
My previous lust was the Ferrari 550 Maranello but that is a different generation of car and has now gone out of reach towards the 100k point.
I guess it’s going to depends on how much the the UK and Global economy tanks or flatlines!!
I do prefer steel brakes in general in terms of feel and what can go wrong etc...
With regards to being a press car, if the condition checked out that wouldn’t bother me really, it would at 2 years old or so but not so much 10 years old if you get my drift.
Maybe they will dip into the late 50’s in a year or so? Really that seems to cheap for such a desirable model.
Quite aware that there will be running costs and risks etc, but somehow to me a V8V at 40k seems worse value than a V12V at 65k , the V8 is just not nearly as special.
I really want a manual V12 with good dynamics.
My previous lust was the Ferrari 550 Maranello but that is a different generation of car and has now gone out of reach towards the 100k point.
I guess it’s going to depends on how much the the UK and Global economy tanks or flatlines!!
I have car 21, also a KX car, no brainer is to have it inspected, get the brakes checked out and enjoy it like I have mine 
Talking to BR the major mechanicals are tough as old boots so it's only consumables that would wear, I did have a brake issue with mine but I don't believe it was related to any management, press or demo use.
Talking to BR the major mechanicals are tough as old boots so it's only consumables that would wear, I did have a brake issue with mine but I don't believe it was related to any management, press or demo use.
I had a V8V KX car - bought with 18K on it at around 2 years old. Was in great condition and I never had a single issue with it in my 3 years of ownership (aside from the d*ckhead BMW driver who rear-ended me but that was all sorted by Works Service at vast expense to her insurers!).
What is the life span for the ceramics? I am looking at a few and I am worried about the brakes. I would much rather have steels and no worries :/ Aston Works have a good example up for 65k but this “ex works” thing now worries me also, and it has a private plate so not sure how I’d check..I have tested the car and initial impressions are true love, but there may well be horrors beneath..
minimax said:
What is the life span for the ceramics? I am looking at a few and I am worried about the brakes. I would much rather have steels and no worries :/ Aston Works have a good example up for 65k but this “ex works” thing now worries me also, and it has a private plate so not sure how I’d check..I have tested the car and initial impressions are true love, but there may well be horrors beneath..
The Vantage is very tough, and unlike many specialist cars with such performance the V12 offers it is very reliable. If you are buying from works, you have the AM warranty for a year to find any issues and get them fixed.You could buy a Porsche and stress over the engine,suspension rebuilds, cooling matrix etc etc. All cars have potential issues, but the Vanatge is probably one of the least risky. I had a 3 year old 996 way back, hit 50k miles and needed complete suspension refurb !
Ceramics are good if not contaminated. If it worries you, buy a V8S, take it to Bamford Rose and up the performance a bit. If you want that V12 however...
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