DBX Dealer Presentation

DBX Dealer Presentation

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hashluck

1,612 posts

275 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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RobDown said:
I think Aston Installations can put Apple CarPlay into a DB11 next time you’re over
Yep they can

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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KevinBird said:

. Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin. Ceramics were avoided because they don’t mix well with mud/grit etc
Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin. Ceramics were avoided because they cost more.

Fixed that for you!

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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JohnG1 said:
Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin. Ceramics were avoided because they cost more.

Fixed that for you!
Would you want to add £10k to the cost of a DBX to have ceramic brakes fitted then John?

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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RobDown said:
JohnG1 said:
Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin. Ceramics were avoided because they cost more.

Fixed that for you!
Would you want to add £10k to the cost of a DBX to have ceramic brakes fitted then John?
Yes thank you.

Same as on my v12v.

I doubt it's £10k at wholesale/OEM price anyway. The delta between iron and CCM at retail is around £11k...


RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Maybe you can lobby Andy Palmer for it be an option? I mean the reality is most of these cars won’t be driven off-road anyway

murphyaj

628 posts

75 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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JohnG1 said:
RobDown said:
JohnG1 said:
Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin. Ceramics were avoided because they cost more.

Fixed that for you!
Would you want to add £10k to the cost of a DBX to have ceramic brakes fitted then John?
Yes thank you.

Same as on my v12v.

I doubt it's £10k at wholesale/OEM price anyway. The delta between iron and CCM at retail is around £11k...
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the advantage of CCM a lack of fade when pushed hard? Steel discs can provide massive stopping power if they are large enough, but repeated high speed stops, of the kind you get on a track of *really* pushing it on the road will result in fade. I fail to see the relevance in an SUV.

None of which stops Porsche offering it on the Cayenne of course (for about £4200). They're a business after all, and if someone is willing to pay why not take their money.

EVR

1,824 posts

60 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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murphyaj said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the advantage of CCM a lack of fade when pushed hard? Steel discs can provide massive stopping power if they are large enough, but repeated high speed stops, of the kind you get on a track of *really* pushing it on the road will result in fade. I fail to see the relevance in an SUV.

None of which stops Porsche offering it on the Cayenne of course (for about £4200). They're a business after all, and if someone is willing to pay why not take their money.
Your post made me realise... why no one already came up with a racing series but just for SUVs? biggrin

I mean, I am joking, but not really. Imagine Range Rovers, Cayennes, Bentayagas, Touaregs, X5s, DBXs, MLs and so on racing around tracks but with some dirt too, rally cross-style.

I would watch it. And it might be a cool marketing tool for brands.

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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murphyaj said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the advantage of CCM a lack of fade when pushed hard? Steel discs can provide massive stopping power if they are large enough, but repeated high speed stops, of the kind you get on a track of *really* pushing it on the road will result in fade. I fail to see the relevance in an SUV.

None of which stops Porsche offering it on the Cayenne of course (for about £4200). They're a business after all, and if someone is willing to pay why not take their money.
Agreed. I can’t see many DBX being used on track. But if enough people want to pay for CCM (I think URUS has them) then maybe AML should consider it an option.

avinalarf

6,438 posts

142 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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I'm beginning to feel sympathy for AP and AM.
It appears that whatever they do it attracts naysayers.
I understand , from previous posts on the subject, that ccm brakes are expensive to replace and that a greater level of care has to be applied as against steel brakes.
No doubt an option to have ccm brakes would be a good idea but guys give AM a break.

PatCub

243 posts

116 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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If the British GT race cars can manage on steel discs then I'm sure the majority of road cars can as well.

Bentley Continental GT

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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avinalarf said:
I'm beginning to feel sympathy for AP and AM.
It appears that whatever they do it attracts naysayers.
I understand , from previous posts on the subject, that ccm brakes are expensive to replace and that a greater level of care has to be applied as against steel brakes.
No doubt an option to have ccm brakes would be a good idea but guys give AM a break.
I totally agree Steve. I would have thought given the shtick CCM brakes have got elsewhere on this forum that the demand for them (and lets be honest AML would charge £10k for them) would have been very limited indeed. Hence my question to JohnG1...

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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RobDown said:
avinalarf said:
I'm beginning to feel sympathy for AP and AM.
It appears that whatever they do it attracts naysayers.
I understand , from previous posts on the subject, that ccm brakes are expensive to replace and that a greater level of care has to be applied as against steel brakes.
No doubt an option to have ccm brakes would be a good idea but guys give AM a break.
I totally agree Steve. I would have thought given the shtick CCM brakes have got elsewhere on this forum that the demand for them (and lets be honest AML would charge £10k for them) would have been very limited indeed. Hence my question to JohnG1...
I don't like dirty, dusty wheels. Hence CCM.

Why people bang on about performance, I don't know. I drive like I'm driving the guy who drives Miss Daisy.

Thank goodness Pistonheads doesn't design cars!

Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Cold said:
I don’t like the grille on that biggrin

DickyC

49,688 posts

198 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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RobDown said:
Cold said:
I don’t like the grille on that biggrin
Bill Towns at his most minimalist.

avinalarf

6,438 posts

142 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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RobDown said:
Cold said:
I don’t like the grille on that biggrin
Don't laugh.
The way it's going give it 20 years and this is what we shall be driven around in.

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Cold said:
I'll ask my valet for his opinion.

But seriously, why have ugly, heavy lumps of cast iron when you can have CCM?

DickyC

49,688 posts

198 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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JohnG1 said:
I'll ask my valet for his opinion.
In this instance I believe the correct person to speak to would be the curator of your car collection.

quench

500 posts

146 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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JohnG1 said:
KevinBird said:

Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin.
Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin.
Largest brakes (cast iron) ever fitted to an Aston Martin.

Fixed that for both of you.

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th August 2019
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quench said:
JohnG1 said:
KevinBird said:

Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin.
Largest brakes (steel) ever fitted to an Aston Martin.
Largest brakes (cast iron) ever fitted to an Aston Martin.

Fixed that for both of you.
Not for both of us. Read my posts where I'm not quoting and I type "iron".

:-)