Smartire TPMS early sensor replacement
Discussion
Mike, Brilliant thank you!! I’ve been researching how to replace Smartire sensors and have found many posts with conflicting information as to “it can’t be done” and your (now proven) Autel based solution. Great to have you sharing how you actually did it.
My car is a 2008 DBS so could have the slightly earlier sensors and I want to change the sensors when I change the tyres (I don’t expect the originals to survive that process). I am looking at the Autel 401 which Autel claim is comparable with the car but I note the DBS is not on the list of Astons you published as in the menu - before I contact Autel could someone with an Autel 401 confirm the DBS isn’t there? I suspect it may work off the DB9 setting but looks like another hurdle for me. Like you I’d rather have the system working than disable it.
Peter
My car is a 2008 DBS so could have the slightly earlier sensors and I want to change the sensors when I change the tyres (I don’t expect the originals to survive that process). I am looking at the Autel 401 which Autel claim is comparable with the car but I note the DBS is not on the list of Astons you published as in the menu - before I contact Autel could someone with an Autel 401 confirm the DBS isn’t there? I suspect it may work off the DB9 setting but looks like another hurdle for me. Like you I’d rather have the system working than disable it.
Peter
I had no sensors in the wheels at all when I bought my car, and I found the selling garage had removed and bodged the wiring to turn off the warning light.
So I made them supply a set of AML valves and sensors direct to me.
Got them fitted to the car and programmed them using the Smartire hand held display which I have.
So I made them supply a set of AML valves and sensors direct to me.
Got them fitted to the car and programmed them using the Smartire hand held display which I have.
randytusk said:
Looking to do this in the near future for a 2007 V8 vantage - Where's the best place to buy the programmer and sensors?
I have the newer system hence did not needed the programmer, but I bought my sensors from https://tpms-24.de/Ask vernierMike for the device.
EVR said:
I have the newer system hence did not needed the programmer, but I bought my sensors from https://tpms-24.de/
Ask vernierMike for the device.
Ta EVR...Ask vernierMike for the device.
Procured from Amazon in the day, as below from the whole sequence on Page 2 of this thread;
'I used an Autel MaxiTPMS Diagnostics and Servicing Tool, a TS401 was used in this case, and an Autel MX TPMS Sensor per wheel, 433MHz but the MX does 315MHz frequency too. No other sensors can be programmed with this tool and the originals cannot be re-programmed.'
Given that time has elapsed I am sure they are now shipping with the updated software, so worth having a go without the PITA software update I needed to undertake.
I didn't get round to sorting my other wheels before lockdown. When I have done this I'll be selling the programming tool, but in the meantime I'm hanging on to it. Incidentally, I am selling the later sensors cheap on eBay due to the build-date from the dealer misleading me that these would work with the older ones - they don't! Ooops, is that an ad???
Ant. said:
I had no sensors in the wheels at all when I bought my car, and I found the selling garage had removed and bodged the wiring to turn off the warning light.
So I made them supply a set of AML valves and sensors direct to me.
Got them fitted to the car and programmed them using the Smartire hand held display which I have.
For reference.So I made them supply a set of AML valves and sensors direct to me.
Got them fitted to the car and programmed them using the Smartire hand held display which I have.
Ant. said:
Interesting, one of the reasons we went independent route to get the older ones to work was the price of the sensors from Aston, they aren't/weren't cheap. It's always been possible to get an Aston dealer to do the job. Maybe now there is an alternative the Aston prices may soften...?This works!!! but not necessarily first time, big thanks to VernierMike for all the hard work. My car is a 2008 DBS the sensors were working but coming up to 12 years old I wanted to change them when I had new tyres fitted. I chatted with Autel who confirmed the DBS vehicle choice on the TS401, and purchased 4 MX dual band sensors (£77.99) and a TS401 programmer (£100) from ReparaturAuteile through e-bay. The tyres were fitted by BlackBoots in Chesham who were most helpful in letting me program the sensors as they extracted the Smartfire ones. The program input was a 10 digit ID so I input leading zeros and a scan of all wheels (with the TS401) showed the old ID numbers in the right place together with pressure data. Took the car out no warning light but after 5min got Tyre System fault and flashing ambers on the Smartire unit.
I contacted Autel but haven't had a response however I had another idea and this morning reset the TS401 to the "DB9 01/2005 - 12/20011 (Smartire 433MHz)" jacked up each wheel in turn and deflated the tyre (necessary to permit programming) and programmed in the same ID's (this time the programmer wanted 8 digits). Started the car got "Tyre System Faulkt" but went for a drive after about 7 minutes the warning light went out and he Smartire was showing one steady green. I pulled up back at home and deflated a tyre by 10psi - got "Check Tyres" which cleared when I re-inflated it.
Conclusion: You can make the Smartire system work and for £80 rather than the dealer £800 and the Autel sensors are tiny in comparison to the bulky Smartire ones which look too big to be safely in a tyre!
Peter
I contacted Autel but haven't had a response however I had another idea and this morning reset the TS401 to the "DB9 01/2005 - 12/20011 (Smartire 433MHz)" jacked up each wheel in turn and deflated the tyre (necessary to permit programming) and programmed in the same ID's (this time the programmer wanted 8 digits). Started the car got "Tyre System Faulkt" but went for a drive after about 7 minutes the warning light went out and he Smartire was showing one steady green. I pulled up back at home and deflated a tyre by 10psi - got "Check Tyres" which cleared when I re-inflated it.
Conclusion: You can make the Smartire system work and for £80 rather than the dealer £800 and the Autel sensors are tiny in comparison to the bulky Smartire ones which look too big to be safely in a tyre!
Peter
Hey Peter, that’s great news. I want to do this myself as mine are nearly 11 years old. Do you or Mike know if it’s possible to read the codes of the tiresmart with the scannner. One of my sensors stickers is no longer readable after a puncture damaged the sticker. I have the other 3 just missing one.
An update:
Autel have responded and sent me an updated TS401 program V59.18 in which they have amended the DBS profile to work with the Smartire system - I'm not going to deflate all my tyres and re-program them to test it but presumably it will be in the next Autel release or available if you contact them.
Peter
Autel have responded and sent me an updated TS401 program V59.18 in which they have amended the DBS profile to work with the Smartire system - I'm not going to deflate all my tyres and re-program them to test it but presumably it will be in the next Autel release or available if you contact them.
Peter
I have just successfully programmed four Autel TPMS MX sensors for my 09 DB9. Thanks for your information. I had some minor differences and possible additions to your procedures. The SmartTire sensors will transmit approximately every 15 minutes when the pressure drops to under 15 psi (as previously mentioned). For the front tires, I let out the air to about 10psi to trigger the sensor and then used my Autel TS508 programmer to read the sensor. No trigger. I kept pushing the read button and after about 5 minutes, and several pushes of the read button, it finally read the sensor. For the rear, I drove the car until the control box read all the TPMS sensor. Then, with he car still running, I placed the Autel TS508 near the sensor and kept pushing the read button until it read the sensor.
The readings were different from the serial number. My front right sensor serial number (as read off the physical sensor after removal) was 173-1-1-0115800 . The reading from the Autel TS508 gave the value as 01C458. I used the value as read from the Autel TS508. All sensors were properly read by the head end unit and a green light achieved.
I appreciate the information given here. I wanted to change the sensors as my car was 11 years old, I was changing tires, and figured the sensors were at the end of their life. My AS dealership is an hour and a half away and I do a lot of work on the car myself. Without this information, I would have probably gone to the dealer. Great forum guys.
The readings were different from the serial number. My front right sensor serial number (as read off the physical sensor after removal) was 173-1-1-0115800 . The reading from the Autel TS508 gave the value as 01C458. I used the value as read from the Autel TS508. All sensors were properly read by the head end unit and a green light achieved.
I appreciate the information given here. I wanted to change the sensors as my car was 11 years old, I was changing tires, and figured the sensors were at the end of their life. My AS dealership is an hour and a half away and I do a lot of work on the car myself. Without this information, I would have probably gone to the dealer. Great forum guys.
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