The new grille on the roadster.
Discussion
cardigankid said:
CSK1 said:
+3cardigankid said:
CSK1 said:
+3The new/old grill clearly had to fit within the current grill aperture, use the current bumper design, not affect the extremities (dimensions) and not interrupt the existing airflow to ensure radiators are cooled and the aero works etc, hence why it looks like it does rather than the (I agree) more resolved render.
Let's not forgot AML have done this mid-lifecycle and reduced the list price at the same time, so for that I think they should be applauded.
Look, there are fundamental problems with this design. This can only have occurred by trying to drive the Vantage down a different line from the DB, a brave strategy, the concept being the ‘predator’ style. I guess.
However the result is something not only unlike what one would recognise as an Aston Martin, but actually quite unresolved.
1. The tail is too low, look at the way it dips away down to the rear.
2. There are too many half hearted swage lines around the bonnet, achieving nothing.
3. There is a horizontal prow line along the front, which may be intended to look like a shark nose, but is actually more like a Tesla.
4. Anything stuck below the prow line, as in the DB10, just looks stuck on. The original production grille just looked as if they had taken the shape off the Valkyrie and stuck it on the Vantage. Apart from being as uncool as a series 2 Mercedes SLK, it bears no relationship to the prow line.
5. The trouble with the new grille is once again it just looks as if they had stuck something on.
6. There are far too many lines on the side of the car. As was said earlier, the reason that the old V8 Vantage works so well is it’s resolved simplicity and the function of every single line. This car is just trying way too hard, and that is not what an Aston does.
7. The whole thing is so theatrical as to lack any cohesive sense of purpose.
Sorry but they might as well face it. The new grille is better, but they need a much more comprehensive facelift.
However the result is something not only unlike what one would recognise as an Aston Martin, but actually quite unresolved.
1. The tail is too low, look at the way it dips away down to the rear.
2. There are too many half hearted swage lines around the bonnet, achieving nothing.
3. There is a horizontal prow line along the front, which may be intended to look like a shark nose, but is actually more like a Tesla.
4. Anything stuck below the prow line, as in the DB10, just looks stuck on. The original production grille just looked as if they had taken the shape off the Valkyrie and stuck it on the Vantage. Apart from being as uncool as a series 2 Mercedes SLK, it bears no relationship to the prow line.
5. The trouble with the new grille is once again it just looks as if they had stuck something on.
6. There are far too many lines on the side of the car. As was said earlier, the reason that the old V8 Vantage works so well is it’s resolved simplicity and the function of every single line. This car is just trying way too hard, and that is not what an Aston does.
7. The whole thing is so theatrical as to lack any cohesive sense of purpose.
Sorry but they might as well face it. The new grille is better, but they need a much more comprehensive facelift.
cardigankid said:
Look, there are fundamental problems with this design. This can only have occurred by trying to drive the Vantage down a different line from the DB, a brave strategy, the concept being the ‘predator’ style. I guess.
However the result is something not only unlike what one would recognise as an Aston Martin, but actually quite unresolved.
1. The tail is too low, look at the way it dips away down to the rear.
2. There are too many half hearted swage lines around the bonnet, achieving nothing.
3. There is a horizontal prow line along the front, which may be intended to look like a shark nose, but is actually more like a Tesla.
4. Anything stuck below the prow line, as in the DB10, just looks stuck on. The original production grille just looked as if they had taken the shape off the Valkyrie and stuck it on the Vantage. Apart from being as uncool as a series 2 Mercedes SLK, it bears no relationship to the prow line.
5. The trouble with the new grille is once again it just looks as if they had stuck something on.
6. There are far too many lines on the side of the car. As was said earlier, the reason that the old V8 Vantage works so well is it’s resolved simplicity and the function of every single line. This car is just trying way too hard, and that is not what an Aston does.
7. The whole thing is so theatrical as to lack any cohesive sense of purpose.
Sorry but they might as well face it. The new grille is better, but they need a much more comprehensive facelift.
Bit harsh on the SLK.However the result is something not only unlike what one would recognise as an Aston Martin, but actually quite unresolved.
1. The tail is too low, look at the way it dips away down to the rear.
2. There are too many half hearted swage lines around the bonnet, achieving nothing.
3. There is a horizontal prow line along the front, which may be intended to look like a shark nose, but is actually more like a Tesla.
4. Anything stuck below the prow line, as in the DB10, just looks stuck on. The original production grille just looked as if they had taken the shape off the Valkyrie and stuck it on the Vantage. Apart from being as uncool as a series 2 Mercedes SLK, it bears no relationship to the prow line.
5. The trouble with the new grille is once again it just looks as if they had stuck something on.
6. There are far too many lines on the side of the car. As was said earlier, the reason that the old V8 Vantage works so well is it’s resolved simplicity and the function of every single line. This car is just trying way too hard, and that is not what an Aston does.
7. The whole thing is so theatrical as to lack any cohesive sense of purpose.
Sorry but they might as well face it. The new grille is better, but they need a much more comprehensive facelift.
cardigankid said:
Look, there are fundamental problems with this design. This can only have occurred by trying to drive the Vantage down a different line from the DB, a brave strategy, the concept being the ‘predator’ style. I guess.
However the result is something not only unlike what one would recognise as an Aston Martin, but actually quite unresolved.
1. The tail is too low, look at the way it dips away down to the rear.
2. There are too many half hearted swage lines around the bonnet, achieving nothing.
3. There is a horizontal prow line along the front, which may be intended to look like a shark nose, but is actually more like a Tesla.
4. Anything stuck below the prow line, as in the DB10, just looks stuck on. The original production grille just looked as if they had taken the shape off the Valkyrie and stuck it on the Vantage. Apart from being as uncool as a series 2 Mercedes SLK, it bears no relationship to the prow line.
5. The trouble with the new grille is once again it just looks as if they had stuck something on.
6. There are far too many lines on the side of the car. As was said earlier, the reason that the old V8 Vantage works so well is it’s resolved simplicity and the function of every single line. This car is just trying way too hard, and that is not what an Aston does.
7. The whole thing is so theatrical as to lack any cohesive sense of purpose.
Sorry but they might as well face it. The new grille is better, but they need a much more comprehensive facelift.
Well I love my new Vantage so maybe they got it right for many purchasers. Obviously not right for you though. I was in the garage last evening and looking at the car and thinking how great it looks. I prefer the old grill so nothing needs changing there.However the result is something not only unlike what one would recognise as an Aston Martin, but actually quite unresolved.
1. The tail is too low, look at the way it dips away down to the rear.
2. There are too many half hearted swage lines around the bonnet, achieving nothing.
3. There is a horizontal prow line along the front, which may be intended to look like a shark nose, but is actually more like a Tesla.
4. Anything stuck below the prow line, as in the DB10, just looks stuck on. The original production grille just looked as if they had taken the shape off the Valkyrie and stuck it on the Vantage. Apart from being as uncool as a series 2 Mercedes SLK, it bears no relationship to the prow line.
5. The trouble with the new grille is once again it just looks as if they had stuck something on.
6. There are far too many lines on the side of the car. As was said earlier, the reason that the old V8 Vantage works so well is it’s resolved simplicity and the function of every single line. This car is just trying way too hard, and that is not what an Aston does.
7. The whole thing is so theatrical as to lack any cohesive sense of purpose.
Sorry but they might as well face it. The new grille is better, but they need a much more comprehensive facelift.
Everything is subjective and there will be people that love it and people that won't. Vive la différence
Personally I think part of the problem with the hunter grill is that it is too large and too black. If the car isn’t black, then it stands out as too much black on the front end almost making the car look too high at the front. On a black car it looks better (pic below) because it blends a bit more. Even so, I prefer the new retro grill, but it’s still not right and as I said before, I think the headlights are part of the problem.
Chris355 said:
Personally I think part of the problem with the hunter grill is that it is too large and too black. If the car isn’t black, then it stands out as too much black on the front end almost making the car look too high at the front. On a black car it looks better (pic below) because it blends a bit more. Even so, I prefer the new retro grill, but it’s still not right and as I said before, I think the headlights are part of the problem.
Actually, I believe on non-black colours it looks better, go figure! 
V8V12VTECwoollie said:
Well I love my new Vantage so maybe they got it right for many purchasers. Obviously not right for you though. I was in the garage last evening and looking at the car and thinking how great it looks. I prefer the old grill so nothing needs changing there.
Everything is subjective and there will be people that love it and people that won't. Vive la différence
Another owner here loving my new Vantage having come from a V12 S.Everything is subjective and there will be people that love it and people that won't. Vive la différence
LordBretSinclair said:
Interesting Phil - is it a better drive???
I don't think the new roadster will be drawing me away from my current car
I think it is. It is more comfortable than even the lightweight seats that I had. The gearshift is instantaneous and you can comfortably drive In ‘D’ if you want. Performance is better, it is even more economical! Very happy with mine I don't think the new roadster will be drawing me away from my current car
yellow_tang said:
LordBretSinclair said:
Interesting Phil - is it a better drive???
I don't think the new roadster will be drawing me away from my current car
I think it is. It is more comfortable than even the lightweight seats that I had. The gearshift is instantaneous and you can comfortably drive In ‘D’ if you want. Performance is better, it is even more economical! Very happy with mine I don't think the new roadster will be drawing me away from my current car
CSK1 said:
Well "more comfortable", "you can comfortably drive In ‘D’ " and "even more economical": those statements convinced me I should get rid of my V12VSR asap. Is it quieter too? :-)
Text out of context... allow me to expand a bit. Comfortable as I can spend longer driving than I could in my V12S. Great as the lightweight seats were compared to the sports ones I originally had, I find the new ones more supportive and less fatigue inducing. It soaks up the miles easier and I don’t get out the car in pain anymore!
The V12 S had an automated manual box. Great so long as you never, and I mean never, drive it as an auto, and just use the paddles. The ZF 8 speed box is a proper auto that you can actually just use in drive on boring commutes, but also has paddleshift for when I want more engagement.
More economical is just a by product, not a selling feature!
No it definitely isn’t quieter, that I can assure you!
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