Oil change this year ?
Discussion
rbryant said:
£55 ??
The oil and filter and seals and sump plug cost £140 or so - do tell more
That price depends on your car, surely? DB7 i6 using Valvoline VR1 10/60 synthetic 5 litres and a Mann filter with parts from Autodoc Berlin. The invoice total inc delivery of £7.04 is £51.10. Using 1.5 litres from the last service gives my total of around £55.The oil and filter and seals and sump plug cost £140 or so - do tell more
Dewi 2 said:
N7GTX said:
Very low mileage likely means the engine has not always got up to working temperature. This increases condensation in the engine as it is not boiled off, which you certainly do not want. There will be contaminants in suspension in the oil. Stop start driving increases wear on engine parts and each time the engine is started after a week or two or three or more, there will be a delay until oil circulates fully around the engine.
If an infrequent use, very low mileage car;
Always has oil pressure built up prior to an engine start.
Every time the engine is started, it always reaches full working temperature, because all drives are minimum 25 miles.
No stop start driving.
Would that safeguard the valid points which you have made?
Very helpful thread, thanks guys. I have watched the video - this one is good - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVcDfRshROo
and take the point about proof, but with a few photos and receipt for the parts, that should be enough I think.
I plan to keep the car for a few years yet, and there is nothing wrong with it that I know of. I changed the battery myself in the summer, and then had to deal with the engine light on, and on the advice of Aston, drove it to temperature and allowed to cool three times, and the car reset itself. I employed a trusted local mechanic to do the front brakes and pads after Aston quoted I think £2,000 .....
Some of the service bills I have from years gone by have £200 of oil on the bill. Castrol Edge 10w 60 can be had for a tenner a litre, and a service kit with OEM parts from Astonbits for £38
https://www.astonmartinbits.com/models/5-V8-Vantag...
I like the comment about getting up close and personal with the car - think I will do it.
and take the point about proof, but with a few photos and receipt for the parts, that should be enough I think.
I plan to keep the car for a few years yet, and there is nothing wrong with it that I know of. I changed the battery myself in the summer, and then had to deal with the engine light on, and on the advice of Aston, drove it to temperature and allowed to cool three times, and the car reset itself. I employed a trusted local mechanic to do the front brakes and pads after Aston quoted I think £2,000 .....
Some of the service bills I have from years gone by have £200 of oil on the bill. Castrol Edge 10w 60 can be had for a tenner a litre, and a service kit with OEM parts from Astonbits for £38
https://www.astonmartinbits.com/models/5-V8-Vantag...
I like the comment about getting up close and personal with the car - think I will do it.
dbs2000 said:
Less than 500 miles, still serviced on time. If you have a good history, I don't see the point in penny pinching.
Not necessarily penny pinching David.
I don't limit expenditure on my own Vantage, whenever it is necessary.
However, at the 7 year (70,000 mile) service, one of the schediuled items is Replace Spark Plugs.
If at that time, your car had travelled only say 15,000 miles, the AMDS indicated no misfires, and you decided not to change the existing spark plugs, would that count as being mean with money, or simply sensible engineering ?
Ignore the fact that the service page would still be stamped.
8Tech said:
Sorry, but if I went to purchase a car and saw a car being serviced at extremely low mileages, it would just show the previous owner was getting shafted by the dealer who was laughing all the way to the bank, or someone who had little of no knowledge about cars and blindly went where the dealer told them. It would not insinuate the car had been particularly cared-for, and I see it daily with cars with a full main dealer history, (we have even seen it here on this very forum), where the dealer themselves have skipped service tasks, and this would be even more likely on a very low mileage.
I can hear it now, "jeez, this cars only done 1000 miles since its last service, just top off the levels and pump up the tyres, it won't need anything".
I think you need to take the cynic's hat off for a moment. Yes, I know all about the 'dealer shafted me' stories. But, they do not apply in every case! Generalising with 'even more likely on a very low mileage' is just wrong. If a dealer is going to 'shaft' you then he/she will do it at any service irrespective of mileage. In my experience almost every dealer will do an oil and filter change as they are cheap items to them. I can hear it now, "jeez, this cars only done 1000 miles since its last service, just top off the levels and pump up the tyres, it won't need anything".
N7GTX said:
I think you need to take the cynic's hat off for a moment. Yes, I know all about the 'dealer shafted me' stories. But, they do not apply in every case! Generalising with 'even more likely on a very low mileage' is just wrong. If a dealer is going to 'shaft' you then he/she will do it at any service irrespective of mileage. In my experience almost every dealer will do an oil and filter change as they are cheap items to them.
We drive James Bond cars, so there should be no mystery about what dealers do, or don't do.
Surely you glue a hair across the sump plug, before taking your Aston for service. -
rbryant said:
Any opinions on the best choice of oil chaps (all 10w60 synthetic of course)
Castrol Edge
Millers
Castrol Edge
Millers
Around 2011, Aston Martin were recommending and main dealers were using Castrol Edge.
A few years later, that changed to Mobil 1.
'Things' must happen behind the scenes!
I bought 5 lires of Castrol Edge for topping up, but it turned out that no topping has ever been required.
This is what I did for my 'self' service this year............
Mines a 2006 and only needed a basic service this year.
Bought the items from AM Bristol, oil from internet and did the job myself.
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Mines a 2006 and only needed a basic service this year.
Bought the items from AM Bristol, oil from internet and did the job myself.
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Not necessarily penny pinching David.
I don't limit expenditure on my own Vantage, whenever it is necessary.
However, at the 7 year (70,000 mile) service, one of the schediuled items is Replace Spark Plugs.
If at that time, your car had travelled only say 15,000 miles, the AMDS indicated no misfires, and you decided not to change the existing spark plugs, would that count as being mean with money, or simply sensible engineering ?
Ignore the fact that the service page would still be stamped.
My car sits in storage , the local mechanic linked to it changes the oil and filter every year for me. i supply any parts and the oil that it requires.
All filters including cabin have been changed. The oil that comes out i use in my mower. This works for me as the car is not in the UK.
All filters including cabin have been changed. The oil that comes out i use in my mower. This works for me as the car is not in the UK.
phumy said:
What was the debris?
It was difficult to work out what it was. Very soft compressible pieces, almost between rubber/thick oil. Not sure if/when the filters were removed and cleaned last, but it could have been there for years or since I has the timing chain/service done last year.
It wasn't anything metallic which was good.
leerandle said:
It was difficult to work out what it was. Very soft compressible pieces, almost between rubber/thick oil.
Not sure if/when the filters were removed and cleaned last, but it could have been there for years or since I has the timing chain/service done last year.
It wasn't anything metallic which was good.
Hmmm i would still be concerned incase it was the remnants of a broken/breaking seal that could let go at any time. Is it plastic, rubber or gasket material?Not sure if/when the filters were removed and cleaned last, but it could have been there for years or since I has the timing chain/service done last year.
It wasn't anything metallic which was good.
N7GTX said:
The only point I'd like to make about the plugs is that over time they can become difficult to remove after a very long time. I think I'd remove them, clean off any dirt from the porcelain, inspect for any tracking - black dots in a line on the white part - and refit. Hopefully they wont become stuck after another 7 years!
Very good point, Iain.
Two different metals in contact.
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