V8V to ?

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JonnyCJ

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1,309 posts

54 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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It seems that I have come to the end of a long and very enjoyable road getting my 09 Vantage into the best possible shape.

So I will now sit back and look for my next project and as AdamV12V commented in my previous post, which got pulled due to advertising, a V12V might be an itch I need to scratch next.

Exciting times on both fronts.

Moderator edit: no advertising




AdamV12V

5,024 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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lol, oh well at least you read my post before the whole thing got zapped! wink

Get a test drive booked - they are rather addictive. I'm into my 12th year of owning 2x V12V + 1x V12VS now, albeit I had a brief 5 month flirt with a P-GT4 before realising my mistake and coming back to the fold. wink

macdeb

8,510 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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I went V8V to McLaren MP4-12C. OMG! (similar price point now)

Edited by macdeb on Thursday 26th May 21:02

Veg

497 posts

283 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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After several happy years my 2006 v8v it will be up for grabs as I move to a 1964 AC Cobra. Stupid car but nothing quite like it!

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Veg said:
After several happy years my 2006 V8V, it will be up for grabs ...

You have just reminded me Martyn. I must book an appointment for an eye test.
Thought I was seeing the word 'keeper', on your profile page.

smile


Veg

497 posts

283 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Haha yes never say absolutes as you never know what might happen. That said it doesn't have to go if my wife never opens the garage...

cypriot

475 posts

99 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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I have a V8V (AMR), and after 10k miles in it, I also had the same thought about a v12. So i test drove a V12SM, and while it is a fantastic car, so is the V8V. I walked away, as the experience wasnt different enough to justify the price difference, and in fact some aspects (particularly the steering and handling) I actually preferred the V8V.

Just to be clear, I am not saying one is better or worse, just that coming from a position of already owning a sorted V8V, the V12 didnt offer a different enough experience for the price difference.

If I didn't already own a vantage, then I would definitely do the V12!

Personally, I would want to try something completely different!

Dewi 2

1,315 posts

65 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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cypriot said:
I have a V8V (AMR), and after 10k miles in it, I also had the same thought about a v12. So i test drove a V12SM, and while it is a fantastic car, so is the V8V. I walked away, as the experience wasnt different enough to justify the price difference, and in fact some aspects (particularly the steering and handling) I actually preferred the V8V.

Just to be clear, I am not saying one is better or worse, just that coming from a position of already owning a sorted V8V, the V12 didnt offer a different enough experience for the price difference.

If I didn't already own a vantage, then I would definitely do the V12!

Personally, I would want to try something completely different!

There is a reason why I agree with you.

The V12 Vantage models are magnificent, desirable, rare cars and a wonderful 'big/small' engineering concept.
However on British roads, I can now only have very brief periods of using full throttle with my 4.7, so I am uncertain whether another 100 or so BHP would in reality, change the actual driving experience very much.

Obviously I have never been tempted to test drive a V12, because of the repeated warnings given on here! wink




nickv12

1,348 posts

83 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Weird, but kinda agree. If I still had a V8 Vantage in my life when the V12 AMR came to market, I may well have not budged.

The V8 is slightly less nose-heavy, but I love the meaty steering on both V8 and V12.

You can’t really go wrong either way.

milu

2,353 posts

266 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Johnny. Is it safe to assume you enjoy the tinkering and improving along with owning as much as driving?
You’ve certainly put some time in
Over the years I’ve often sold a car as soon as the tinkering comes to an end.
Not so much these days. Trying to stop swapping!

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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I spotted your registration marks Mike.
A pity, someone probably scrapped the car bearing LUM 8 decades ago, if it was ever issued.
Looks to be an old Leeds issue plate.

Did you try for M21 UMB, although the upper and lower cases get muddled then ?



JonnyCJ

Original Poster:

1,309 posts

54 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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milu said:
Johnny. Is it safe to assume you enjoy the tinkering and improving along with owning as much as driving?
You’ve certainly put some time in
Over the years I’ve often sold a car as soon as the tinkering comes to an end.
Not so much these days. Trying to stop swapping!
I think I do - every itch I have to scratch gets turned into the best incarnation I possibly can. Hopefully when it sells I can start the search all over again. That’s all part of the joy of ownership.



AdamV12V

5,024 posts

177 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Dewi 2 said:


However on British roads, I can now only have very brief periods of using full throttle with my 4.7, so I am uncertain whether another 100 or so BHP would in reality, change the actual driving experience very much.

Obviously I have never been tempted to test drive a V12, because of the repeated warnings given on here! wink

It is so NOT about the 100bhp, or even the 180bhp in the case of the "S", I too fell for that line of thinking when I owned a V8V, but it's almost a different car. You should try one, then you'll know! wink

milu

2,353 posts

266 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Jon39 said:

I spotted your registration marks Mike.
A pity, someone probably scrapped the car bearing LUM 8 decades ago, if it was ever issued.
Looks to be an old Leeds issue plate.

Did you try for M21 UMB, although the upper and lower cases get muddled then ?
I can’t remember if I ever looked for M21. But probably did. Certainly looked for M1 but that went years ago.
M7 was available when I bought M2.
I also have M20 on my Phaeton but that’s pretty meaningless other than fits the pattern.
I did have L12MBY years back but let it go.
They’re all cheapo plates. Just a bit of saddo fun.

Edited by milu on Friday 27th May 15:16

Speedraser

1,656 posts

183 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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AdamV12V said:
Dewi 2 said:


However on British roads, I can now only have very brief periods of using full throttle with my 4.7, so I am uncertain whether another 100 or so BHP would in reality, change the actual driving experience very much.

Obviously I have never been tempted to test drive a V12, because of the repeated warnings given on here! wink

It is so NOT about the 100bhp, or even the 180bhp in the case of the "S", I too fell for that line of thinking when I owned a V8V, but it's almost a different car. You should try one, then you'll know! wink
I've had my '09 V8V from new. I still have it even thought I've driven the V12V. IMO, the often-stated notion that the V12V is simply better in every way is untrue. I, too, prefer the handling balance, especially the lighter nose, of the V8. That wonderful V12 engine is 100 kgs/220 lbs heavier, it sits farther forward (the V8 is fully behind the front axle line), it's taller (60 degree V vs 90 degree V), and it's mounted higher (wet sump). All that said, the V12V is wonderful, a truly special car. I'd love to have one, and hopefully will at some point. But it would have to be in addition to my V8V, not in place of it.

Also, I did buy a V12 -- an '05 Vanquish S. How about one of those for your next project?

JonnyCJ

Original Poster:

1,309 posts

54 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Early Vanquish is a consideration as well. They have rear subframe issues and I have form in getting rear subframes sorted, so it wouldn’t be a problem for me. Lots of man hours yes, but I pretty much know what to do and where to go to get things done.

The other option would be an early V8V. Given that the spannering is part of the fun for me, stripping down one of those babies would be very enjoyable and the early incarnation of the legend, so I’m some respects how it was intended.

Powerflex bushes would be well up on the list. I didn’t get to do those on my 4.7 as it had only done 32,000 and they were all in really good shape.

Mind you, the Vanquish headlights and rear quarter always get my juices flowing…

Calinours

1,117 posts

50 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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I considered upgrading to V12V, second gen Vanquish, McLaren 12C but in end chose the DB11. It ticked the boxes of scratching the V12 itch, staying with an Aston, more 'modern' (more robust Mercedes-sourced electrical architecture) and a significant power and torque upgrade. AM did miss a trick with the dash layout on the new cars though, I still prefer the mid-life VH interior and that ridiculously fragile crystal key (sorry, 'ECU'). Upgrading the earlier cars funky rotating sat nav to something similar to what is in the later Bentley Continentals would have been awesome.

Simpo Two

85,417 posts

265 months

Sunday 5th June 2022
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I think you should get this: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106183...

Keep it for a year then sell it to me at half price smile

JonnyCJ

Original Poster:

1,309 posts

54 months

Friday 10th June 2022
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New project in the crosshairs

Graze will know what it is, straight 6, itch I’ve been wanting to scratch for 30+ years.

Tax and MoT exempt, classic looks, not one ECU.

Simpo Two

85,417 posts

265 months

Friday 10th June 2022
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JonnyCJ said:
New project in the crosshairs

Graze will know what it is, straight 6, itch I’ve been wanting to scratch for 30+ years.

Tax and MoT exempt, classic looks, not one ECU.
DB6. What do I win? smile