Looking back at the Lancer Evolution.
Discussion
designforlife said:
probably up towards 30k then, i'm not that up on prices but sufficed to say it's an asset that will probably keep climbing.
It's always the same. Sold my V for £15k and bought a blob STi new, then that got stolen. When I changed the AYC, I stripped down the old unit, fantastic bit of kit. Three concentric driveshafts on one side !
VR6VR6 said:
In recent years I have sold:
BMW E30 M3,
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo,
Audi RS4 (B5) x 3,
Porsche 996 GT2 Club Sport,
Porsche 928 S4 (the last 1 built),
Nissan Skyline GTR R34,
Nissan Skyline GTR R32,
Lotus Exige S1 x 2,
Noble M12 GTO 3R,
TVR Griffith 500,
Hind sight is a wonderful thing!
In one way, you could say, ouch.BMW E30 M3,
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo,
Audi RS4 (B5) x 3,
Porsche 996 GT2 Club Sport,
Porsche 928 S4 (the last 1 built),
Nissan Skyline GTR R34,
Nissan Skyline GTR R32,
Lotus Exige S1 x 2,
Noble M12 GTO 3R,
TVR Griffith 500,
Hind sight is a wonderful thing!
In another, what a set of cars to have experienced.
Out of that lot, which would you like back ?
For me it would probably be the E30.
Grindle said:
I've bought the Evo 400 and convinced myself that it's an investment as the previous and only owner really loved the car, only ever used 99 octane, changed the oil every 2,000 miles and serviced it before the recommended miles had happened. I've driven it 300 miles so far and i have to say the lag is pretty awful compared to say an A45 AMG or RS3, cars people own at work. But i'm finding a love for it as a rebel, a hooligan which refuses to behave and as for lag, it basically says ''ave it''! I'm keeping it stock even though i was told you can modify these for more power AND less lag, quite how i don't yet know. Standard hopefully will mean better retained value. Here's to a fun summer but in so many ways a BMW M2 is just so much better if i'm honest. I drove my dad's yesterday and it's a great car.
Good choice, the 400 is the most desirable after the 6 TME and the prices on those have rocketed, the 400 will follow suit. As for more power less lag, the std 400 turbo is very outdated and too big for the power, with a simple remap you'll get 500+bhp on that. But you could also change the turbo for something a little more special and modern, engine is capable of well over 600bhpThe E30 was mentioned. I have to say i drove one recently in fabulous condition and other than rarity what the heck do people see in them? Am i alone on being totally underwhelmed by a car with pretty much the same performance as a Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0? They look like a kit car built by someone who liked his ale rather too much and the engine was a huge disappointment. It just felt so slow and even the sports exhaust did little to make me think i was in an ''M car''. To pay a fortune for one seems crazy other than a pure investment.
Grindle
I bought my E30 (Hartge tuned) based on photos and an engineers report.
Flew down to London and picked the car up.
Drove her from back from London to East Lancashire the same day and all I need to say is that I never drove the car again.
She was MINT but I stuck her in our showroom (I used to own a tuning garage) as a static display and sold her on a few months later.
Late 80's reviews mask the fact that "most" older classics are actually not very nice to drive and are VERY slow (my current E46 M3 manual is an exception as the chassis is very enjoyable).
It is called progress!
I bought my E30 (Hartge tuned) based on photos and an engineers report.
Flew down to London and picked the car up.
Drove her from back from London to East Lancashire the same day and all I need to say is that I never drove the car again.
She was MINT but I stuck her in our showroom (I used to own a tuning garage) as a static display and sold her on a few months later.
Late 80's reviews mask the fact that "most" older classics are actually not very nice to drive and are VERY slow (my current E46 M3 manual is an exception as the chassis is very enjoyable).
It is called progress!
VR6VR6 said:
In recent years I have sold:
BMW E30 M3,
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo,
Audi RS4 (B5) x 3,
Porsche 996 GT2 Club Sport,
Porsche 928 S4 (the last 1 built),
Nissan Skyline GTR R34,
Nissan Skyline GTR R32,
Lotus Exige S1 x 2,
Noble M12 GTO 3R,
TVR Griffith 500,
Hind sight is a wonderful thing!
Jeeze are you actually me ?BMW E30 M3,
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo,
Audi RS4 (B5) x 3,
Porsche 996 GT2 Club Sport,
Porsche 928 S4 (the last 1 built),
Nissan Skyline GTR R34,
Nissan Skyline GTR R32,
Lotus Exige S1 x 2,
Noble M12 GTO 3R,
TVR Griffith 500,
Hind sight is a wonderful thing!
Juno
A list of what has passed through my garage in the last 28 years (I will have missed some!):
Manufacturer Model
Audi Coupe (UR)
Audi 100 (V6 Auto)
Audi 80 Cab
Audi RS4 (B5) Avant (1) 480bhp
Audi RS4 (B5) Avant (1) as above (owned twice!)
Audi RS4 (B5) Avant (2) 520bhp MRC tuned
Audi RS6 (C5) Avant (1) 450bhp APR tuned
Audi RS6 (C5) Avant (2) 480bhp MRC tuned
Audi RS6 (C6) Avant (1) 702bhp MRC tuned
Audi RS6 (C6) Avant (2) 757bhp MRC tuned ***
Audi 80 S2 Avant 2.2L 5 pot (280bhp)
Audi Q7 Tdi S-Line (1) 280bhp remapped
Audi Q7 Tdi S-Line (2) 290bhp remapped ***
Audi S6 1.8T
Audi R8 Gen 1 V8 manual (630bhp APR Super Charged)
Audi S8 (D4) TFSi 520bhp out of the box
Audi A1 1.2 TSi ***
BMW 328i (E46) JBL demo car
BMW 318i Compact (E46) JBL demo car
BMW M3 (E30) Hartge Modified
BMW M3 (E46) ***
BMW M5 (E39)
BMW 550i Touring (E60) ***
BMW Mini Cooper S S/C
BMW Z3M Roadster (LS3)
Gumpert Apollo Sport (710bhp and 1,200kg) ***
Honda CRX 1.6 V-Tec
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo 1 Abarth (342bhp GRP A)
Lotus Elise (S1) 1.8T Silver 280bhp
Lotus Elise (S1) 1.8T Red 320bhp
Lotus Exige (S1) S/C K20a 300+bhp
Lotus Exige (S1) 1.9T White 450bhp
Mazda MX5 (MK1) Turbo 250bhp ***
Mini Various (1970 to 1995) x 8
Mini 1275 GT
Mini Cooper
Mini Minivan
Mitsubishi EVO 6 TME (14k miles) ***
Mitsubishi Shogan SWB 3.0 V6 Petrol
Mitsubishi FTO 2.5l V6 Mivec Manual
Nissan R32 GTR (JUN 2.7L 630 bhp)
Nissan R32 GTR (RB Motorsport 550bhp V-Cam) ***
Nissan R32 GTR (RB28 650bhp) ***
Nissan R32 GTR (700+bhp Japanse Touring Car) ***
Nissan R34 GTR (750+bhp OSG RB30 + sequential)
Nissan R35 GTR (Stage 1 MY09)
Nissan R35 GTR (MY10) LM750R
Nissan Pulsar Gti-R
Noble M12 GTO 3R
Peugeot 205 Gti 1.6
Peugeot 205 Gti 1.9
Porsche 928 S4 (last one ever built)
Porsche 996 GT2 Club Sport (578bhp @ rear wheels)
Porsche Cayman 987 S 350bhp GT3 upgrades ***
Renault 21 Turbo (1)
Renault 21 Turbo Quadra
Renault Alpine GTA V6 Turbo
Toyota MR2 (S2)
TVR Griffith (6.3L LS3)
Ultima GTR (6.9L SBC) factory demonstrator
Ultima GTR (6.3L short stroke 733bhp SBC)
Volkswagen Beetle 1303L
Volkswagen Polo VR6 (235bhp and worlds first)
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK1) VR6T mid engined 500+bhp
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK1) G60
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK1) G60 Turbo conversion
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK1)
Volkswagen Corrado VR6T Syncro
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK5) Autograph
Volkswagen Scirocco 1.4 Tsi ***
Westfield XTR4 1.8T (350bhp and 675kg)
I still own the cars that are *** yes - 11 of them!
A list of what has passed through my garage in the last 28 years (I will have missed some!):
Manufacturer Model
Audi Coupe (UR)
Audi 100 (V6 Auto)
Audi 80 Cab
Audi RS4 (B5) Avant (1) 480bhp
Audi RS4 (B5) Avant (1) as above (owned twice!)
Audi RS4 (B5) Avant (2) 520bhp MRC tuned
Audi RS6 (C5) Avant (1) 450bhp APR tuned
Audi RS6 (C5) Avant (2) 480bhp MRC tuned
Audi RS6 (C6) Avant (1) 702bhp MRC tuned
Audi RS6 (C6) Avant (2) 757bhp MRC tuned ***
Audi 80 S2 Avant 2.2L 5 pot (280bhp)
Audi Q7 Tdi S-Line (1) 280bhp remapped
Audi Q7 Tdi S-Line (2) 290bhp remapped ***
Audi S6 1.8T
Audi R8 Gen 1 V8 manual (630bhp APR Super Charged)
Audi S8 (D4) TFSi 520bhp out of the box
Audi A1 1.2 TSi ***
BMW 328i (E46) JBL demo car
BMW 318i Compact (E46) JBL demo car
BMW M3 (E30) Hartge Modified
BMW M3 (E46) ***
BMW M5 (E39)
BMW 550i Touring (E60) ***
BMW Mini Cooper S S/C
BMW Z3M Roadster (LS3)
Gumpert Apollo Sport (710bhp and 1,200kg) ***
Honda CRX 1.6 V-Tec
Lancia Delta Integrale Evo 1 Abarth (342bhp GRP A)
Lotus Elise (S1) 1.8T Silver 280bhp
Lotus Elise (S1) 1.8T Red 320bhp
Lotus Exige (S1) S/C K20a 300+bhp
Lotus Exige (S1) 1.9T White 450bhp
Mazda MX5 (MK1) Turbo 250bhp ***
Mini Various (1970 to 1995) x 8
Mini 1275 GT
Mini Cooper
Mini Minivan
Mitsubishi EVO 6 TME (14k miles) ***
Mitsubishi Shogan SWB 3.0 V6 Petrol
Mitsubishi FTO 2.5l V6 Mivec Manual
Nissan R32 GTR (JUN 2.7L 630 bhp)
Nissan R32 GTR (RB Motorsport 550bhp V-Cam) ***
Nissan R32 GTR (RB28 650bhp) ***
Nissan R32 GTR (700+bhp Japanse Touring Car) ***
Nissan R34 GTR (750+bhp OSG RB30 + sequential)
Nissan R35 GTR (Stage 1 MY09)
Nissan R35 GTR (MY10) LM750R
Nissan Pulsar Gti-R
Noble M12 GTO 3R
Peugeot 205 Gti 1.6
Peugeot 205 Gti 1.9
Porsche 928 S4 (last one ever built)
Porsche 996 GT2 Club Sport (578bhp @ rear wheels)
Porsche Cayman 987 S 350bhp GT3 upgrades ***
Renault 21 Turbo (1)
Renault 21 Turbo Quadra
Renault Alpine GTA V6 Turbo
Toyota MR2 (S2)
TVR Griffith (6.3L LS3)
Ultima GTR (6.9L SBC) factory demonstrator
Ultima GTR (6.3L short stroke 733bhp SBC)
Volkswagen Beetle 1303L
Volkswagen Polo VR6 (235bhp and worlds first)
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK1) VR6T mid engined 500+bhp
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK1) G60
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK1) G60 Turbo conversion
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK1)
Volkswagen Corrado VR6T Syncro
Volkswagen Golf Gti (MK5) Autograph
Volkswagen Scirocco 1.4 Tsi ***
Westfield XTR4 1.8T (350bhp and 675kg)
I still own the cars that are *** yes - 11 of them!
Edited by VR6VR6 on Monday 9th July 13:41
My friend and I both love our Evos, theyre absolutely perfect for twisty country roads! It isnt a main car for me so I dont mind the fuel issue and while the major service items like timing belt etc are done at Ralliart (they still exist in NZ) the rest of the easy stuff like fluid changes are done and logged by me.
I wanted one for years and honestly can say its everything I hoped it would be!
There is mint, then there is MINT!
https://www.facebook.com/Migliordetailing/photos/a...
She will be like NEW when the works are complete. Very expensive but she will be worth it!
https://www.facebook.com/Migliordetailing/photos/a...
She will be like NEW when the works are complete. Very expensive but she will be worth it!
Complete paint correction process, full body glass coating, wheel refurb (not really needed but want her absolutely pristine) and even having brake callipers re-painted as they have faded with age!
Did I mention that I have OCD when it comes to cars?
Probably around £1,700 all in but the results will speak for themselves!
Did I mention that I have OCD when it comes to cars?
Probably around £1,700 all in but the results will speak for themselves!
I once saw an Evo navigate a r/bout at at least 70mph (straight across it) and it left me sat there gobsmacked. Quite incredible the way it just jinked left and right with no braking.
TX.
Edit - if you're suffering from "lag" then you're just in the wrong gear
TX.
Edit - if you're suffering from "lag" then you're just in the wrong gear
Edited by Terminator X on Friday 13th July 07:52
Terminator X said:
I once saw an Evo navigate a r/bout at at least 70mph (straight across it) and it left me sat there gobsmacked. Quite incredible the way it just jinked left and right with no braking.
TX.
Edit - if you're suffering from "lag" then you're just in the wrong gear
When I lived in Southampton, and was located in Hamble, Junction 8 roundabout was my exit point from the M27. I used to come in quite late when it was quiet and have a dozen or so laps in the middle of the night, until I got dizzy!TX.
Edit - if you're suffering from "lag" then you're just in the wrong gear
Edited by Terminator X on Friday 13th July 07:52
I did this for years, always on my own, and the car would just sit balanced on slight opposite lock, at a speed that felt high enough for me not to want to take my eyes off the road to look at the speedo.
Eventually, I ended up doing this with a passenger, who leant across and stunned me with the information that it was indicating 85 mph under the bridges on the " straight " parts of the oval that formed the roundabout.
I doubt I'll ever own or drive a more capable or engaging car than my Evo, and for that reason I doubt I'll ever sell it.
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