Looking back at the Lancer Evolution.

[Evolved]

Love these threads, as I love the Evo. I’ve owned numerous other cars, but none touch the Evo for what it can do, which is go from point to point at a rapid pace!

Sure they’re low rent, I drive a BMW daily to counter that, but for out and out fun, they’re still hard to beat.

Any excuse to post a pic

[Evolved]

Not bad for a 20 year old motor.

Edited by Evolved on Saturday 14th July 07:47

[Gary C]

Terminator X said:

I once saw an Evo navigate a r/bout at at least 70mph (straight across it) and it left me sat there gobsmacked. Quite incredible the way it just jinked left and right with no braking.

TX.

Edit - if you're suffering from "lag" then you're just in the wrong gear

Edited by Terminator X on Friday 13th July 07:52

Your right, clarkson et al have no idea what lag actually is !

Yes there was a very small amount of actual lag in the V and also some surge but it added to the character

[bimmerdaddy]

Grindle said:

I owned 4 of these over the years, my personal favourite of the entire range being my black 2006 XlV 360 model. But for you were they, as many people have said, an ugly souped-up Japanese taxi? A laggy 2 litre 4 cylinder which sounds like a vacuum cleaner which needs it's box emptying? A saloon car but with supercar insurance, road tax, servicing costs and fuel consumption?
Or was it for you a point to point weapon, a car with awesome traction and heroic performance from it's tiny 2 litre lump? Lord knows i have too many cars already but i saw a very good condition Evo 8 400 recently for sale which i wondered about buying. It was up at £22,500. Then i saw an immaculate 2013 BMW M3, with it's sonorous and wonderful 4.0 litre V8 engine and a cabin to die for compared with the Mitsubishi. For £1,500 less. Where are you on this one?

From my late teens and well into my mid 20s I was obsessed with these, particularly the Evo IV. These days it'd be an E92 M3 any day of the week though, as they've become a new obsession...

[don logan]

bimmerdaddy said:

Grindle said:

I owned 4 of these over the years, my personal favourite of the entire range being my black 2006 XlV 360 model. But for you were they, as many people have said, an ugly souped-up Japanese taxi? A laggy 2 litre 4 cylinder which sounds like a vacuum cleaner which needs it's box emptying? A saloon car but with supercar insurance, road tax, servicing costs and fuel consumption?
Or was it for you a point to point weapon, a car with awesome traction and heroic performance from it's tiny 2 litre lump? Lord knows i have too many cars already but i saw a very good condition Evo 8 400 recently for sale which i wondered about buying. It was up at £22,500. Then i saw an immaculate 2013 BMW M3, with it's sonorous and wonderful 4.0 litre V8 engine and a cabin to die for compared with the Mitsubishi. For £1,500 less. Where are you on this one?

From my late teens and well into my mid 20s I was obsessed with these, particularly the Evo IV. These days it'd be an E92 M3 any day of the week though, as they've become a new obsession...

It’s a mad comparison, 1 was built for a purpose and looks like a taxi because of homologation reasons, at the time the race cars had to be made from production cars, so it’s a similar shell to the “taxi” with totally different mechanicals, rumour has it that the RS models actually had more spot welds in the shells for extra rigidity!

The other is a mainstream car built for sales so it’s compromised, I do like the E92 M3 a lot and it’s a great all rounder but for a drive on the right road it’s a right lump and can’t be taken seriously in comparison to the EVO!

EVOs never sound good but the M3 sounds UNREAL with a sports exhaust, I think the Eissenmann sounds one of the best!

[don logan]

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5s were the best looking!

[Gary C]

don logan said:

[quote=Evolved

5s were the best looking!

Totally agree

The V with its stormtrooper front end was the best of the lot. Mine had the fog lights and the factory option big brembo conversion. Epic car with epic service costs too.

The only car I have ever driven that had people taking photos of it as I drove by.i

Edited by Gary C on Friday 27th July 23:07

[don logan]

Gary C said:

Epic car with epic service costs too.

Edited by Gary C on Friday 27th July 23:07

But again, that’s because it had far fewer compromises than a mainstream car!

It was a car that was capable WAY beyond it’s new showroom price.

Those 4,5k sevice intervals were a bit of a red herring created by Mitsubishi to create business for the Mitsubishi dealer network!

We will never have cars built for a purpose other than for pure sales again, not at those kind of prices anyway.

[Gary C]

don logan said:

Gary C said:

Epic car with epic service costs too.

Edited by Gary C on Friday 27th July 23:07

But again, that’s because it had far fewer compromises than a mainstream car!

It was a car that was capable WAY beyond it’s new showroom price.

Those 4,5k sevice intervals were a bit of a red herring created by Mitsubishi to create business for the Mitsubishi dealer network!

We will never have cars built for a purpose other than for pure sales again, not at those kind of prices anyway.

The 4.5k interval was really about the AYC, it did need a full oil change as it was a little delicate, or more accurately, was under a lot of load. Had to change mine.

So it had all three oils changed every 4.5k, but it also was tough on all parts, so 'service' costs tended to cost me on the other bits, pads, disks, clutch, tyres etc. Really a lot of these parts could be changed for much tougher Motorsport parts but it was my road car.

But an epic road car. Took my carrera out last night and near me is a fast sweeping couple of bends with a dip, now in the dip the road has a number of bumps that really unsettles the 911 but in the Evo you never even though about them.

[don logan]

Gary C said:

don logan said:

Gary C said:

Epic car with epic service costs too.

Edited by Gary C on Friday 27th July 23:07

But again, that’s because it had far fewer compromises than a mainstream car!

It was a car that was capable WAY beyond it’s new showroom price.

Those 4,5k sevice intervals were a bit of a red herring created by Mitsubishi to create business for the Mitsubishi dealer network!

We will never have cars built for a purpose other than for pure sales again, not at those kind of prices anyway.

The 4.5k interval was really about the AYC, it did need a full oil change as it was a little delicate, or more accurately, was under a lot of load. Had to change mine.

So it had all three oils changed every 4.5k, but it also was tough on all parts, so 'service' costs tended to cost me on the other bits, pads, disks, clutch, tyres etc. Really a lot of these parts could be changed for much tougher Motorsport parts but it was my road car.

But an epic road car. Took my carrera out last night and near me is a fast sweeping couple of bends with a dip, now in the dip the road has a number of bumps that really unsettles the 911 but in the Evo you never even though about them.

Thankfully I’ve only owned one with AYC!

Brakes are constant consumables because of how they can be driven aren’t they, I eventually upgraded to APs all round with upgraded pads and it’s surprising how much “less hard” you have to brake if that makes sense?

I’ve never had a clutch issue yet but I NEVER launch off the line, I’ve only had mildly upgraded clutches to cope with the extra power my 6 has!

I’m a HUGE 911 fan, a straight 993 C2 being my favourite, I did a lot of miles in those, not mad fast but a great great combination of things with that car and trying to drive them quick cross country is fantastic for forgetting everything else that’s on your mind!

Edited by don logan on Saturday 28th July 12:44

[Gary C]

don logan said:

Thankfully I’ve only owned one with AYC!

Brakes are constant consumables because of how they can be driven aren’t they, I eventually upgraded to APs all round with upgraded pads and it’s surprising how much “less hard” you have to brake if that makes sense?

I’ve never had a clutch issue yet but I NEVER launch off the line, I’ve only had mildly upgraded clutches to cope with the extra power my 6 has!

I’m a HUGE 911 fan, a straight 993 C2 being my favourite, I did a lot of miles in those, not mad fast but a great great combination of things with that car and trying to drive them quick cross country is fantastic for forgetting everything else that’s on your mind!

Edited by don logan on Saturday 28th July 12:44

My 911 is an 89 carrera so it's suspension is a little dated but on a smooth road its immense fun, but the Evo was so much more capable and in the wet almost untouchable. Remember a drive in heavy rain near Newtown in Wales. Caught up with a hartage BMW and a amg merc playing. Despite their power, I overtook both quickly as they could just not get their power down out the of corners in the wet.

Did eat disks as well as pads, clutch had been given a hard time by the previous owner I think (actually it was his wife's car as he had two other evo's and a rally Evo) but still epic

Drove it to Milan one year, in the mountains around lake como it was a real grin. The drive back from Milan to Lancaster took 17 hours, including cross country over the Vosges Mountains and waiting for the ferry, which is not bad for a car, that at speed needed refilling every 150 miles, especially with the rear wing in max downforce position

What a holiday, got the car serviced the week before going and needed another as soon as I got home, ouch.

[don logan]

Gary C said:

My 911 is an 89 carrera so it's suspension is a little dated but on a smooth road its immense fun, but the Evo was so much more capable and in the wet almost untouchable. Remember a drive in heavy rain near Newtown in Wales. Caught up with a hartage BMW and a amg merc playing. Despite their power, I overtook both quickly as they could just not get their power down out the of corners in the wet.

Did eat disks as well as pads, clutch had been given a hard time by the previous owner I think (actually it was his wife's car as he had two other evo's and a rally Evo) but still epic

Drove it to Milan one year, in the mountains around lake como it was a real grin. The drive back from Milan to Lancaster took 17 hours, including cross country over the Vosges Mountains and waiting for the ferry, which is not bad for a car, that at speed needed refilling every 150 miles, especially with the rear wing in max downforce position

What a holiday, got the car serviced the week before going and needed another as soon as I got home, ouch.

Hopefully the OP is learning something from our hijacking!

I’ve done a few long journeys in my 6 to the Alps, and as you said 150 to a tank is a drag but maybe a slight silver lining because mine has fixed / non reclining Recaros, I’ve done a few 14hr drives with them!

I’m desperate to take it back to the Alps since I’ve done some upgrades but one of them was an RS gearbox which means that 5th gear is even lower than the standard gearbox and not sure I can face it, I think it’s just over 4k revs at just over 80mph

I’ve owned it from new and removed the wing about 10 years ago!

Edited by don logan on Sunday 29th July 10:36

Edited by don logan on Sunday 29th July 10:38

[Gary C]

don logan said:

Hopefully the OP is learning something from our hijacking!

I’ve done a few long journeys in my 6 to the Alps, and as you said 150 to a tank is a drag but maybe a slight silver lining because mine has fixed / non reclining Recaros, I’ve done a few 14hr drives with them!

I’m desperate to take it back to the Alps since I’ve done some upgrades but one of them was an RS gearbox which means that 5th gear is even lower than the standard gearbox and not sure I can face it, I think it’s just over 4k revs at just over 80mph

Ouch, fixed back seats and RS gearbox would make a interesting tour

[Pericoloso]

My mate has 2.

Both VI TMEs one white ,one red.

[Pericoloso]

The white one in this pic is another mate's car,taken at the Ring last year.

First mate bought his white one since then.

[don logan]

Gary C said:

don logan said:

Hopefully the OP is learning something from our hijacking!

I’ve done a few long journeys in my 6 to the Alps, and as you said 150 to a tank is a drag but maybe a slight silver lining because mine has fixed / non reclining Recaros, I’ve done a few 14hr drives with them!

I’m desperate to take it back to the Alps since I’ve done some upgrades but one of them was an RS gearbox which means that 5th gear is even lower than the standard gearbox and not sure I can face it, I think it’s just over 4k revs at just over 80mph

Ouch, fixed back seats and RS gearbox would make a interesting tour

The seats aren’t TERRIBLE but you CANNOT get an itch in places you can’t scratch!

The gearbox is fanastic everywhere but the motorway, I have a spare EVO 9 GT spec gearbox that has a regular 5th ratio but I didn’t enjoy it as much when I used it briefly!

[don logan]

Pericoloso said:

My mate has 2.

Both VI TMEs one white ,one red.

The price of TMEs has gone mad but there’s barely any difference!

They are an icon though!

[bimmerdaddy]

don logan said:

It’s a mad comparison, 1 was built for a purpose and looks like a taxi because of homologation reasons, at the time the race cars had to be made from production cars, so it’s a similar shell to the “taxi” with totally different mechanicals, rumour has it that the RS models actually had more spot welds in the shells for extra rigidity!

The other is a mainstream car built for sales so it’s compromised, I do like the E92 M3 a lot and it’s a great all rounder but for a drive on the right road it’s a right lump and can’t be taken seriously in comparison to the EVO!

EVOs never sound good but the M3 sounds UNREAL with a sports exhaust, I think the Eissenmann sounds one of the best!

Yeah I agree that they're not at all comparable, I think it's more an indication of my changing tastes as I've aged. Having said that, in the unlikely event that I ever get to put together my dream car collection, the Evo would be in there! About 10 years ago one of my mates borrowed his sister's Evo VI TME for the weekend and took me out in it. At the time it was by far the fastest car I'd been in, and although that's no longer the case, the way it handled has still stuck with me. It really did seem to defy the laws of physics so I can imagine driving one on a good, twisty country road would be quite an experience.

[Gary C]

bimmerdaddy said:

Yeah I agree that they're not at all comparable, I think it's more an indication of my changing tastes as I've aged. Having said that, in the unlikely event that I ever get to put together my dream car collection, the Evo would be in there! About 10 years ago one of my mates borrowed his sister's Evo VI TME for the weekend and took me out in it. At the time it was by far the fastest car I'd been in, and although that's no longer the case, the way it handled has still stuck with me. It really did seem to defy the laws of physics so I can imagine driving one on a good, twisty country road would be quite an experience.

The really were. The thing is, if you set a chassis up for virtually no understeer, the oft result is snap oversteer. The AYC allowed an amazingly direct front end with a docile and controllable rear. You really could throw it about.

At first I would naturally begin to counter steer to correct the expected drift I was expecting, only for the AYC to beat me to it, resulting in a bit of an untidy apex, but once tuned to its responses, wow. It didn't feel stabilised like a lot of modern cars that use the abs system, just pointy and planted and when traction was broken, it tended to drift tail out upto about 50, then become more neutral four wheel drift.

At the time, you would need a skyline to show it a clean set of heels and even then, in really twisty slippy bits, who knows

Certainly, a Welsh police traffic car wouldnt stand a chance.

[don logan]

Gary C said:

bimmerdaddy said:

Yeah I agree that they're not at all comparable, I think it's more an indication of my changing tastes as I've aged. Having said that, in the unlikely event that I ever get to put together my dream car collection, the Evo would be in there! About 10 years ago one of my mates borrowed his sister's Evo VI TME for the weekend and took me out in it. At the time it was by far the fastest car I'd been in, and although that's no longer the case, the way it handled has still stuck with me. It really did seem to defy the laws of physics so I can imagine driving one on a good, twisty country road would be quite an experience.

The really were. The thing is, if you set a chassis up for virtually no understeer, the oft result is snap oversteer. The AYC allowed an amazingly direct front end with a docile and controllable rear. You really could throw it about.

At first I would naturally begin to counter steer to correct the expected drift I was expecting, only for the AYC to beat me to it, resulting in a bit of an untidy apex, but once tuned to its responses, wow. It didn't feel stabilised like a lot of modern cars that use the abs system, just pointy and planted and when traction was broken, it tended to drift tail out upto about 50, then become more neutral four wheel drift.

At the time, you would need a skyline to show it a clean set of heels and even then, in really twisty slippy bits, who knows

Certainly, a Welsh police traffic car wouldnt stand a chance.

I actually traded my 6 GSR for an RSX (RS 2) for some of the reasons you mentioned!

I also owned a R35 GTR for 4 years recently and it would NEVER EVER been able to compete with my 6 on the roads I like driving on the most!