Any zc32 Suzuki swift sport users?

Any zc32 Suzuki swift sport users?

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Darren93

146 posts

69 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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Ilovejapcrap said:
Darren93 said:
Any comments on how fast these are in terms of straightline pace? Anyone driving one had a run in with another car to gauge how quick the Swift is?

Low torque motors can feel a bit slow as they don't have any sort of torque swell low down but they're actually decently quick in the real world most of the time.
On paper not amazing, my mate followed me in his old clk 3.2 v6 petrol auto, I know not a rocket ship but was pleasantly surprised by the swift and I followed my other pal in his 3.0 v6 TDI vw Touareg and I held its own.

Clarkson description is best

https://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews/the-clarkson...
High praise from Clarkson to be fair, although I don't quite get the monologue at the beginning of the article!

I don't think the performance numbers, namely 0-60, really do this car justice. It should definitely be in the 7 range at ~130bhp per tonne imo, it's a shame there isn't more content on them.

Ilovejapcrap

3,021 posts

76 months

Tuesday 11th June 2019
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Darren93 said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
Darren93 said:
Any comments on how fast these are in terms of straightline pace? Anyone driving one had a run in with another car to gauge how quick the Swift is?

Low torque motors can feel a bit slow as they don't have any sort of torque swell low down but they're actually decently quick in the real world most of the time.
On paper not amazing, my mate followed me in his old clk 3.2 v6 petrol auto, I know not a rocket ship but was pleasantly surprised by the swift and I followed my other pal in his 3.0 v6 TDI vw Touareg and I held its own.

Clarkson description is best

https://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews/the-clarkson...
High praise from Clarkson to be fair, although I don't quite get the monologue at the beginning of the article!

I don't think the performance numbers, namely 0-60, really do this car justice. It should definitely be in the 7 range at ~130bhp per tonne imo, it's a shame there isn't more content on them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7tvAwmfNJg

standard car with a remap - is just under 7 secs. however if your really that bothered by performance on paper it may not be for you. They really are great fun and keep speed well but its no AMG

Darren93

146 posts

69 months

Wednesday 12th June 2019
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Ilovejapcrap said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7tvAwmfNJg

standard car with a remap - is just under 7 secs. however if your really that bothered by performance on paper it may not be for you. They really are great fun and keep speed well but its no AMG
My current car is 300bhp and it's quite a frustrating drive as you can't really exploit the car... Ideally I'll be looking for something cheaper (first time house buyer) as well as being more fun which this seems to fit. ~7ish to 60 is good performance in my book, couldn't imagine how annoying an AMG would be day to day biglaugh

stedaley

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569 posts

88 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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Darren93 said:
My current car is 300bhp and it's quite a frustrating drive as you can't really exploit the car... Ideally I'll be looking for something cheaper (first time house buyer) as well as being more fun which this seems to fit. ~7ish to 60 is good performance in my book, couldn't imagine how annoying an AMG would be day to day biglaugh
this is the issue i'm having! Mk1 TT with 265hp and I love it but for a to b driving on the commute it barely gets a run out.

Smaller cars with 100-150hp seem to the best bet in having good un on that tyoe of drive!

test driving a 2015 SSS on Monday!

Ilovejapcrap

3,021 posts

76 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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stedaley said:
Darren93 said:
My current car is 300bhp and it's quite a frustrating drive as you can't really exploit the car... Ideally I'll be looking for something cheaper (first time house buyer) as well as being more fun which this seems to fit. ~7ish to 60 is good performance in my book, couldn't imagine how annoying an AMG would be day to day biglaugh
this is the issue i'm having! Mk1 TT with 265hp and I love it but for a to b driving on the commute it barely gets a run out.

Smaller cars with 100-150hp seem to the best bet in having good un on that tyoe of drive!

test driving a 2015 SSS on Monday!
Cool see how you get on. I suspect you’re first impression from getting out of a 270 bhp turbo will be gutless, and to a degree you’d be right. Have a long test drive, find a twisty road and leave In third and it might make some sense. I’ve just driven too Devon from Yorkshire today in mine used 45 quid of fuel, mainly cruise on at 80, bar the 50 areas for road works, and thrashing on twisty hilly bit at end.

It was reving at around 3.5 k on motorway I had DAB radio on and the satnav directing me. No headache no bad back, what more do you need. Oh and it left the BMW touring driving up my arse once we got on the Devon back roads.



Darren93

146 posts

69 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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stedaley said:
Darren93 said:
My current car is 300bhp and it's quite a frustrating drive as you can't really exploit the car... Ideally I'll be looking for something cheaper (first time house buyer) as well as being more fun which this seems to fit. ~7ish to 60 is good performance in my book, couldn't imagine how annoying an AMG would be day to day biglaugh
this is the issue i'm having! Mk1 TT with 265hp and I love it but for a to b driving on the commute it barely gets a run out.

Smaller cars with 100-150hp seem to the best bet in having good un on that tyoe of drive!

test driving a 2015 SSS on Monday!
Well, how did you find it?

Jonny_gti

192 posts

44 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Can anyone tell me the main differences between the ZC31 & ZC32? I know the 32 has a 6 speed box but is there any differences to the engines, suspension set-up ect?

Reason I ask as im pretty keen on getting one as a 2nd car myself but cant seem to find any info comparing these two to see if the zc31 is worth the extra dollar.

Cheers

Ilovejapcrap

3,021 posts

76 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Jonny_gti said:
Can anyone tell me the main differences between the ZC31 & ZC32? I know the 32 has a 6 speed box but is there any differences to the engines, suspension set-up ect?

Reason I ask as im pretty keen on getting one as a 2nd car myself but cant seem to find any info comparing these two to see if the zc31 is worth the extra dollar.

Cheers
I think engine has some very minor tweaks (Chris from CTC tuning could tell you), 6 speed box as you say.

The main aspect is gear, the next gen swift sport has
cruise,
Bluetooth,
NAV [on later models],
Digital radio
MP3 / aux [better to see and use on later NAV models]
fancy lights [dunno if halogen or what but good in dark]
Push start
I think the 32 has better suspension [ I recall reading something ]

Both have
Keyless
Same size wheels with odd tyre size ( they have used this on z33 as well I think)

Can’t think of anything else.







dapper

82 posts

39 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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Ilovejapcrap said:
Jonny_gti said:
Can anyone tell me the main differences between the ZC31 & ZC32? I know the 32 has a 6 speed box but is there any differences to the engines, suspension set-up ect?

Reason I ask as im pretty keen on getting one as a 2nd car myself but cant seem to find any info comparing these two to see if the zc31 is worth the extra dollar.

Cheers
I think engine has some very minor tweaks (Chris from CTC tuning could tell you), 6 speed box as you say.

The main aspect is gear, the next gen swift sport has
cruise,
Bluetooth,
NAV [on later models],
Digital radio
MP3 / aux [better to see and use on later NAV models]
fancy lights [dunno if halogen or what but good in dark]
Push start
I think the 32 has better suspension [ I recall reading something ]

Both have
Keyless
Same size wheels with odd tyre size ( they have used this on z33 as well I think)

Can’t think of anything else.
Seem to remember reading somewhere about more noise deadening on the 32 as well.

dapper

82 posts

39 months

Wednesday 19th June 2019
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Darren93 said:
Any comments on how fast these are in terms of straightline pace? Anyone driving one had a run in with another car to gauge how quick the Swift is?

Low torque motors can feel a bit slow as they don't have any sort of torque swell low down but they're actually decently quick in the real world most of the time.
Bested my friends is200 3 times out of 3. ZC31 though.

Ilovejapcrap

3,021 posts

76 months

Wednesday 26th June 2019
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Darren93 said:
stedaley said:
Darren93 said:
My current car is 300bhp and it's quite a frustrating drive as you can't really exploit the car... Ideally I'll be looking for something cheaper (first time house buyer) as well as being more fun which this seems to fit. ~7ish to 60 is good performance in my book, couldn't imagine how annoying an AMG would be day to day biglaugh
this is the issue i'm having! Mk1 TT with 265hp and I love it but for a to b driving on the commute it barely gets a run out.

Smaller cars with 100-150hp seem to the best bet in having good un on that tyoe of drive!

test driving a 2015 SSS on Monday!
Well, how did you find it?
guess it wasn't for him

stedaley

Original Poster:

569 posts

88 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Darren93 said:
Well, how did you find it?
I may have bought it!

Lovely little car, 2015 with higher miles but immaculate and serviced well.
Gear box oil I think needs changing but I think its just more notchy vs the tt box.

Can throw it around, and I feel you can use it more than a more powerful car.... definitely quicker than the stats say. 7-8seconds rather than 8+

Sorry for the late reply! Ive just started a new job!

stedaley

Original Poster:

569 posts

88 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Ilovejapcrap said:
guess it wasn't for him
It was!

Love how easy it is to drive and enjoy and can do the motorway trips when needed.

Had it a week, haven't been able to get it under 40mpg, so much cheaper to run than the TT. and can really feel how light it is!

5500 for the 2015 with 70k. too good a deal to pass up!!

Are there any major service check points on the m16a?


Ilovejapcrap

3,021 posts

76 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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stedaley said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
guess it wasn't for him
It was!

Love how easy it is to drive and enjoy and can do the motorway trips when needed.

Had it a week, haven't been able to get it under 40mpg, so much cheaper to run than the TT. and can really feel how light it is!

5500 for the 2015 with 70k. too good a deal to pass up!!

Are there any major service check points on the m16a?
not really 9k service which i dont see as a bad thing nice new oil, i have read that it wants valve clearance checks at some point but no idea on mileage for that.

Lets have some pics then smile

stedaley

Original Poster:

569 posts

88 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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Ilovejapcrap said:
not really 9k service which i dont see as a bad thing nice new oil, i have read that it wants valve clearance checks at some point but no idea on mileage for that.

Lets have some pics then smile
I have read its 72k hence why i'm abit frown as it wasn't clear!

Ill have to contact Suzuki to see prices for it, as I can see it being expensive, maybe labour?

Instagram is @mk2_sss along with my TT @ste225tt

probably the best place where I post pics of them!

Ilovejapcrap

3,021 posts

76 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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stedaley said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
not really 9k service which i dont see as a bad thing nice new oil, i have read that it wants valve clearance checks at some point but no idea on mileage for that.

Lets have some pics then smile
I have read its 72k hence why i'm abit frown as it wasn't clear!

Ill have to contact Suzuki to see prices for it, as I can see it being expensive, maybe labour?

Instagram is @mk2_sss along with my TT @ste225tt

probably the best place where I post pics of them!
clearance checks is actually a very common engine need, a lot just dont bother, I'd not go to Suzuki, id go to an independent garage. basically it checks clearance between cam and valves (inlet / outlet) if they are out the car will still run no problem (unless drastically out, very unlikely).

But the better they are it lets petrol/air in and exhaust gas out at the correct time in piston cycle so in theory engine runs smoother and gives better power.



Darren93

146 posts

69 months

Thursday 27th June 2019
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stedaley said:
Darren93 said:
Well, how did you find it?
I may have bought it!

Lovely little car, 2015 with higher miles but immaculate and serviced well.
Gear box oil I think needs changing but I think its just more notchy vs the tt box.

Can throw it around, and I feel you can use it more than a more powerful car.... definitely quicker than the stats say. 7-8seconds rather than 8+

Sorry for the late reply! Ive just started a new job!
That sound like exactly what I'm after Ste, something quick enough to not embarrass yourself yet not too much power that your find yourself doubling every speed limit!

I wouldn't really worry about milage, I seen a 2015 for sale recently with north of 120k on it and it was very tidy still.

Keep us updated!

Darren93

146 posts

69 months

Sunday 14th July 2019
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So, had a drive in a swift sport yesterday and had a few observations;

Nice seats
High seating position, do you get used to this?
Good infotainment and responsive
Very good gearchange, close gates
Decent ride

All quite good but the test-drive was up and down a dual carriageway which obviously doesn't tell you what a car is really like. It didn't feel slow but does anyone find the performance hampered significantly with passengers? I was 3 up and the salesman was on the chunky side you could say and I didn't feel much fizz at the top end.

Didn't get any feel for the handling of course which is annoying. The Revs seemed to jump between 600-900 at idle with the AC on and in general was a bit lumpy on idle but the car is due a service, I assume this isn't normal?

horsemeatscandal

674 posts

68 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Get one bought! Won’t regret it. Look how good they look next to the new one, I also think they’re much better to drive, if slower.

OnTheEdge

94 posts

26 months

Wednesday 17th July 2019
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Darren93 said:
All quite good but the test-drive was up and down a dual carriageway which obviously doesn't tell you what a car is really like. It didn't feel slow but does anyone find the performance hampered significantly with passengers? I was 3 up and the salesman was on the chunky side you could say and I didn't feel much fizz at the top end.
The ZC32 only weighs a bit over a ton so loading it up does dent performance quite noticeably.