320d m sport concerns
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Hi,
Im looking to buy a 320d m sport,around the 2006 age,
And have reaad and heard that,if the car is mainly driven around town the Dpf will soon give some grief,i would say 80% of my travelling is around town and do the odd 60 mile round trip at least once a month,
Should i reconsider?
Im looking to buy a 320d m sport,around the 2006 age,
And have reaad and heard that,if the car is mainly driven around town the Dpf will soon give some grief,i would say 80% of my travelling is around town and do the odd 60 mile round trip at least once a month,
Should i reconsider?
leah1 said:
Hi,
Im looking to buy a 320d m sport,around the 2006 age,
And have reaad and heard that,if the car is mainly driven around town the Dpf will soon give some grief,i would say 80% of my travelling is around town and do the odd 60 mile round trip at least once a month,
Should i reconsider?
Hi mate,Im looking to buy a 320d m sport,around the 2006 age,
And have reaad and heard that,if the car is mainly driven around town the Dpf will soon give some grief,i would say 80% of my travelling is around town and do the odd 60 mile round trip at least once a month,
Should i reconsider?
I've got a 2007 320D m sport (163Ps 160Bhp model), as far as concerns i'd recommend having the swirl flaps blanked off just for peace of mind an less chance of scary bills etc. As for the DPF i believe that pre 2008 cars didn't come with them, as this can be determined weather if the exhaust tip turns down or not (this applies to 320D's only).
Nearly all of my driving is around town, but do occasionally take it our on the b roads and ring its neck abit.
But apart from those points i'd recommend that you change the oil every 6 - 8k with good quality stuff and after driving erm.... spiritedly i always give it 30 seconds before i turn the engine, in turn not cutting the oil feed to the turbo immediately and letting the turbo wind down.
But as a car i'd thoroughly recommend one to people.
Hope you enjoy.....
Ben
Targarama said:
Yes, buy a petrol, BMW petrol engines are lovely and probably nearly as economical as the diesel around town.
One point to note the 320i engines a underpowered to the equivalent diesel and proved to be quite problematic in the 320si in posts that i have read on forums anyway.Real world mpg in a 320D 163Ps (160Bhp) figures go for 40Mpg ish around town and 53.4Mpg doing 85mph on the motorway..
In my opinion i'd go for a diesel any day, its's all about the torque! and chance of remapping it in the future then it's capable of up to 200Bhp
Have a look around on some BMW forums a good one to start at is;
http://www.bimmerpost.com/
Anymore questions, someone will be able to help on here or the bimmerpost site.
Ben
Thanks i really want a 320d,after getting a diesel after my petrol cars i can never look back as the money they save me on just one trip is worth it for me,is the swirl flap easy to do?
What are you all getting mpg and how much are tax on these?
I hear that pre 57 plate models have different bhp and emission figures?
What are you all getting mpg and how much are tax on these?
I hear that pre 57 plate models have different bhp and emission figures?
Swirl flap blanking plugs are quite easy to do, just need to remove the intake manifold. You can get the swirl flap blanking plugs from ebay, there are a few people selling them on there. There are two different sizes, i think a 320d will probably take the smaller ones. You need to get an intake manifold gasket set as well.
leah1 said:
also if i bought a car without bi Xeons could i install a pair from another car easy enough?
Not really!, Audi, Volkswagen, Mazda, Honda, ford etc., etc., lights are going to take a lot of modification to get them to fit! 
On a more serious note, fitting the bi xenon's from another 3 series can be done but technically you will need the headlamp washers and self levelling suspension to be legal.
And for all those who will say you don't need them for a non factory/aftermarket install, the MOT test is being tightened up from 2012 to cover this very subject:
http://www.bmwland.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&...
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?...
Edited by 4rephill on Saturday 2nd July 13:59
Urban Sports said:
Which petrol is nearly as economical as the diesel?
Mine isn't, even compared to a 6 cylinder diesel.
22mpg.
It depends on how far you're driving in town. It's not just about the MPG figure is it?, you also have to take into account the additional price to be paid for diesel these days. It may actually be cheaper to use more petrol than diesel for the same distance travelled based on the price difference.Mine isn't, even compared to a 6 cylinder diesel.
22mpg.
Also, as others have pointed out, diesels take a lot longer to warm up due to their iron blocks and DPF's get clogged up very easily with too much town driving and can be expensive to put right (and before people suggest simply removing the DPF, it looks like from 2012 that will be an MOT failure [from: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?... ]):
8.2.2.1. Exhaust emission control equipment
(a) Emission control equipment fitted by the manufacturer absent or obviously defective.
4rephill said:
Urban Sports said:
Which petrol is nearly as economical as the diesel?
Mine isn't, even compared to a 6 cylinder diesel.
22mpg.
It depends on how far you're driving in town. It's not just about the MPG figure is it?, you also have to take into account the additional price to be paid for diesel these days. It may actually be cheaper to use more petrol than diesel for the same distance travelled based on the price difference.Mine isn't, even compared to a 6 cylinder diesel.
22mpg.
Also, as others have pointed out, diesels take a lot longer to warm up due to their iron blocks and DPF's get clogged up very easily with too much town driving and can be expensive to put right (and before people suggest simply removing the DPF, it looks like from 2012 that will be an MOT failure [from: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?... ]):
8.2.2.1. Exhaust emission control equipment
(a) Emission control equipment fitted by the manufacturer absent or obviously defective.
I didn't buy a diesel because I only do around 8000 miles per year, it is terrible on fuel though around town, however the engine itself, noise and smoothness more than make up for it
Slim1875 said:
Hi , looking at buying a 2011 320d m sport 73.000 on clock full service history and tips on buying this car
My advice is not want you want to hear.....leave it alone.In conversation with the service manager of my BMW Dealership in sep 2014 he said off the record it is only now that he would put his own money in to an N47 engined car (just at the end of its run before the B58 arrived )....its all about the timing chain aeg said:
But they're not all bad....I ran an E91 320d MSport (2011) up to 190,000 miles with NO engine problems apart from a water pump! (And a DPF, even with pretty much all long cross country runs it needed changing at 120000).
No they arent but believe me they are when they go wrong why take the risk.Anyway good luck with whatever you do.Mate of mine had 320d with the N47 engine - timing chain snapped, got it replaced - wasn't cheap & then it went again a couple of 1000 miles later & sold it as is for someone else to deal with.
My neighbors car also had the chain go and needed a new engine - I've seen the chain on these, about as chunky as a mountain bike chain.
Apart from that, good engines
My neighbors car also had the chain go and needed a new engine - I've seen the chain on these, about as chunky as a mountain bike chain.
Apart from that, good engines
As someone above said some 57 plates and all before will be the M47 engine with no DPF, easy way to tell as stated is downwards turned exhaust tip, no stop / start and different engine covers.
I recently bought a 57 320d M Sport Tourer with the non DPF M47, was specially after that engine rather than the newer N47 and associated issues with them
I recently bought a 57 320d M Sport Tourer with the non DPF M47, was specially after that engine rather than the newer N47 and associated issues with them
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