F31 335d xDrive - experiences?

F31 335d xDrive - experiences?

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Osinjak

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5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Strong chance that I'll order one of these this week, be interested to hear from those who have one already. What are your experiences, good, bad or indifferent? I've just sold my E91 335d after 5 years so have a good sense of what they can be like in terms of sheer grunt at least.

Hedgeman

661 posts

231 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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I've had one since new, purchased July 2014, an M-Sport Touring in grey with red leather. Options are pano roof, pro nav, M-Sport Plus pack, visibility pack, heated seats, adaptive suspension, head-up display. There may be one or two bits I missed. Options wise I don't regret any of these choices.

I don't do many miles (only about 4k p.a. in this car), but chose the diesel for the 4WD and effortless torque - I have other cars for the petrol head moments. The car is exceptionally competent, extremely quick (on a par with a Porsche 996 C4), has great tech, and is a very comfortable and pleasant place to be for a long journey. The main downside is slightly wallowy handling, even with the adaptive suspension.

It's effortlessly efficient at everything it does. Overall it's a car to deeply admire, but not to really love. Like many modern cars, it has that slightly detached driving experience. But for what it's designed to be, a fast efficient everyday car, BMW have hit the spot brilliantly.

Osinjak

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5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Hedgeman said:
Overall it's a car to deeply admire, but not to really love. Like many modern cars, it has that slightly detached driving experience.
This is my only fear and a problem I had with my E91. It was superb at what we wanted it for (loooong drives across Europe) but it was bit of a numb experience if I was honest. You could throw it around with ease and it was pretty good at it too but it wasn't much 'fun' really. I managed to test drive a 330d xDrive and it was a lovely place to be - really - but I was bit underwhelmed by the driving experience. Mind you, I didn't really get a chance to throw it around so probably didn't get the full idea.

Billyray911

1,072 posts

204 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Sorry to hijack your thread...I've an E91 335d also and am in the same boat of wanting to upgrade imminently.I do just under 10k per year and am in a bit of a quandary as to whether to choose a 335i instead of the d-or try another marque.
Reading various forum posts,it appears that there is a bit of a backlash against the 335d-mainly as a result of the ride and people having to upgrade to the acs springs.
I have driven both the s and x drive 330d and I have to say that whilst a little underpowered, I much prefer the feel of the s drive.I have a set of winter wheels and tyres for the E91,which are fantastic on the rare occasion that I've needed them.I feel that an x drive maybe a bit redundant.
To be honest,having had mine remapped for the past few years,I've not had a single issue with putting the power down in any environment.As it has been mentioned before,it's a shame that the suspension issues weren't sorted upon initial release of the 335d.
I've thought about the golf r estate as well as the S3 sportsback and an S4 avant,but I like the F31 and with two largish dogs,I keep coming back to the BMW (the split tailgate is also a real bonus for me).
I'm thinking that maybe a 335i with ppk would be perfect.Maybe!

Osinjak

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5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Aye, I've read about the suspension issues as well but if the motoring press is to be believed the LCI has addressed some of those problems. Remains to be seen of course!

Wills2

22,812 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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I'd get an F11 530d instead and I've had a F31 335d xdrive.



drmark

4,838 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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I would struggle to fall in love with the F11 or F31 but both would top my list of best cars for the real world.

335d

758 posts

118 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Billyray911 said:
Sorry to hijack your thread...I've an E91 335d also and am in the same boat of wanting to upgrade imminently.I do just under 10k per year and am in a bit of a quandary as to whether to choose a 335i instead of the d-or try another marque.
Reading various forum posts,it appears that there is a bit of a backlash against the 335d-mainly as a result of the ride and people having to upgrade to the acs springs.
I have driven both the s and x drive 330d and I have to say that whilst a little underpowered, I much prefer the feel of the s drive.
It is true that quite a few of us have paid around £600 to switch the springs to ACS. While the majority doing this have xDrive, increasingly this includes those with sDrive cars. The truth is that the F3x in all its forms lacks the sharpness of the E9x, although it is so far above it in all other respects that many forgive it.

An xDrive with ACS springs handles significantly better than an sDrive on standard springs, so if the standard sDrive is good enough for you, you are unlikely to be disappointed with an xDrive once you have improved the springs.

smashy

3,036 posts

158 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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The 3 series on standard suspension is not The Best Car In The World,it is infact the Best Floating Blancmange In The World....if I had to go again it would M sport adaptive ,with ACS springs for £650.

Billyray911

1,072 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Osinjak said:
Aye, I've read about the suspension issues as well but if the motoring press is to be believed the LCI has addressed some of those problems. Remains to be seen of course!
Keep us posted as to what you finally decide on and any deals that you may get! biggrin

P Ride

49 posts

141 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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If you'd like a 435i XDrive for free, then simply pop over to the Gstaad mountain range in Switzerland, whack out the fastest time of the season on the BMW run - and it's yours!

Here's me, at the bottom of the run!


bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Hedgeman said:
It's effortlessly efficient at everything it does. Overall it's a car to deeply admire, but not to really love. Like many modern cars, it has that slightly detached driving experience. But for what it's designed to be, a fast efficient everyday car, BMW have hit the spot brilliantly.
I bought mine new in May 2014. For me it's a brilliant car in every respect, fast, comfortable, well equiped and very economical. I have no idea what you mean by 'slightly detached driving experience'?

JNW1

7,787 posts

194 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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bad company said:
Hedgeman said:
It's effortlessly efficient at everything it does. Overall it's a car to deeply admire, but not to really love. Like many modern cars, it has that slightly detached driving experience. But for what it's designed to be, a fast efficient everyday car, BMW have hit the spot brilliantly.
I bought mine new in May 2014. For me it's a brilliant car in every respect, fast, comfortable, well equiped and very economical. I have no idea what you mean by 'slightly detached driving experience'?
Generally happy with my F31 335d but tend to agree with Hedgeman; for me it's a tool to do a job and not something I'd take out for a drive just for the hell of it. Even with adaptive in sport mode I do on occasion think it feels a touch ponderous and, whilst overall it's definitely better than the E91 335d, I do think the previous model felt a bit more agile courtesy of being smaller and lighter. Not sure what your definition of "very economical" is but in mixed driving I'm averaging 38mpg which I consider decent but not fantastic; when combined with a smaller tank than that fitted to the E91 it means the range isn't much better which is a touch disappointing in my view. If you're a petrolhead at heart you'll probably be slightly frustrated if it's your only car but overall it makes for an excellent daily driver and is certainly one of the best cars I've had for effortless overtaking; the huge torque combined with the 8-speed auto box means it will nip past several dawdlers at once almost without trying! Engaging it isn't though (all IMHO of course!).

Osinjak

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5,453 posts

121 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Had an interesting chat with my dealer today. Apparently you won't be able to spec xenons anymore, it's either halogens or LEDs. The wheels in the M Sport plus package have also changed from the 403s to 442M bi-colour Orbit Grey, the ones on the 4 Series.

Edited by Osinjak on Wednesday 17th June 20:02

Hedgeman

661 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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bad company said:
I bought mine new in May 2014. For me it's a brilliant car in every respect, fast, comfortable, well equiped and very economical. I have no idea what you mean by 'slightly detached driving experience'?
JNW1 sums it up well. It's not a car you would take out for the hell of it. It's not a car where you revel in the noise, feel or sensory input from the controls.

It's a bit like a Miele washing machine: well built, reliable, economical. You admire its engineering quality, and you rely on it to do a good job, but you don't just sit and look at it through a wash cycle.

smashy

3,036 posts

158 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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...mmm anyone who can only afford a 10 year old fiesta might feel differently.....im well overstretched with my f30 30d and think its fantastic...

bad company

18,574 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Hedgeman said:
bad company said:
I bought mine new in May 2014. For me it's a brilliant car in every respect, fast, comfortable, well equiped and very economical. I have no idea what you mean by 'slightly detached driving experience'?
JNW1 sums it up well. It's not a car you would take out for the hell of it. It's not a car where you revel in the noise, feel or sensory input from the controls.

It's a bit like a Miele washing machine: well built, reliable, economical. You admire its engineering quality, and you rely on it to do a good job, but you don't just sit and look at it through a wash cycle.
I just look at 335 as one of the best daily drivers I have ever owned (the other was an M5). I take your point tho, the sun is shining today so I will be going out in the TVR. driving

Sheepshanks

32,753 posts

119 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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smashy said:
...im well overstretched with my f30 30d and think its fantastic...
A lot of that will be sDrive vs xDrive though.

smashy

3,036 posts

158 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
smashy said:
...im well overstretched with my f30 30d and think its fantastic...
A lot of that will be sDrive vs xDrive though.
HaHa..actually the full AC Schnitzer suspension I have on it has finally had a real workout ..all over lincolnshires twistys..oh boy it reminds me of my escort xr3i I had as a lad..honestly ..on rails and comfortable with it which the ford wasntsmile

Wills2

22,812 posts

175 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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I sincerely hope it doesn't remind you of an XR3i! ACS would be horrified.