F31 335d xDrive - experiences?
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335d LCI is a good car.
If it were lower (acs) it'd be stiffer and ride more harshly, so glad a nice riding version exists as standard.
As it goes it's got amazing ground covering potential and can run rougher roads faster.
Awd means less thinking about deploying power too.
Good power means easy overtakes.
40mpg+ on mixed driving.
My only real issues are naff 'options' on throttle, gearbox and steering.
If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
In theory you can get it almost perfect with sport+ but then when you choose that you lose low speed dcs a bit.
I've yet to test it but I'd imagine with awd it'll not matter much...?!
If it were lower (acs) it'd be stiffer and ride more harshly, so glad a nice riding version exists as standard.
As it goes it's got amazing ground covering potential and can run rougher roads faster.
Awd means less thinking about deploying power too.
Good power means easy overtakes.
40mpg+ on mixed driving.
My only real issues are naff 'options' on throttle, gearbox and steering.
If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
In theory you can get it almost perfect with sport+ but then when you choose that you lose low speed dcs a bit.
I've yet to test it but I'd imagine with awd it'll not matter much...?!
smashy said:
,Great car but park it in many areas of London and you will pay around 3 or more times the amount charged for a petrol ,euro 6 or euro 999 it doesnt matter.
Diesel is finished and I am so sad about that 50mg plus in a fast car will soon be a thing of the past
But you can't get 50 mpg out of one whilst driving it fast. Diesel is finished and I am so sad about that 50mg plus in a fast car will soon be a thing of the past
Mr Whippy said:
My only real issues are naff 'options' on throttle, gearbox and steering.
If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
Do you mean you'd like to select differing damping/throttle/gearbox/DSC/steering/gearbox modes and then preset them on a button?If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
Wills2 said:
But you can't get 50 mpg out of one whilst driving it fast.
Fair point Wills however in a hurry (pressing on in PH world)
west london to gloucester 115 miles in an hour and 40 mins ill get 44mpg all day long in my 330d S Drive . What do you reckon in a 340i?Plus a fast car that if you just need to middle lane it from west london to Leicester will show 60mpg. Very sad times for mile munchers like me
Edited by smashy on Friday 17th November 21:39
smashy said:
Fair point Wills however west london to gloucester 115 miles in an hour and 40 mins (think about it) ill get 45mpg all day long in my 330d S Drive . What do you reckon in a 340i?
Plus a fast car that if you just need to middle lane it from west london to Leicester will show 60mpg. Very sad times for mile munchers like me
A 330dRwd is hugely more efficient than the 335d xdrive. Plus a fast car that if you just need to middle lane it from west london to Leicester will show 60mpg. Very sad times for mile munchers like me
Edited by smashy on Friday 17th November 21:33
Edited by smashy on Friday 17th November 21:34
You will not see 60mpg at M way speed in a 335d you will in a 330d easily. Heck you can get it into 70mpg if you ease off a bit.
Using all the horses all the time it will be not very economical.
Wills2 said:
Mr Whippy said:
My only real issues are naff 'options' on throttle, gearbox and steering.
If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
Do you mean you'd like to select differing damping/throttle/gearbox/DSC/steering/gearbox modes and then preset them on a button?If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
Eco Pro as it is but heavier steering.
Comfort with heavier steering, shifting as is.
Sport with heavier steering and throttle, shifting as comfort.
Sport+ as above but dsc slackened.
I only want sport gears when I pick sport and get manual override anyway.
Right now I'm stuck only being able to get sharp throttle if I also take silly gears, which basically means running with paddles which is a pita when doing junction work and steering.
Mr Whippy said:
335d LCI is a good car.
If it were lower (acs) it'd be stiffer and ride more harshly, so glad a nice riding version exists as standard.
As it goes it's got amazing ground covering potential and can run rougher roads faster.
Awd means less thinking about deploying power too.
Good power means easy overtakes.
40mpg+ on mixed driving.
My only real issues are naff 'options' on throttle, gearbox and steering.
If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
In theory you can get it almost perfect with sport+ but then when you choose that you lose low speed dcs a bit.
I've yet to test it but I'd imagine with awd it'll not matter much...?!
I agree with you, I actually posted on this last year as I had ordered an LCI 335d but some things came up and I had to cancel (my username was diehardbenzfan). If it were lower (acs) it'd be stiffer and ride more harshly, so glad a nice riding version exists as standard.
As it goes it's got amazing ground covering potential and can run rougher roads faster.
Awd means less thinking about deploying power too.
Good power means easy overtakes.
40mpg+ on mixed driving.
My only real issues are naff 'options' on throttle, gearbox and steering.
If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
In theory you can get it almost perfect with sport+ but then when you choose that you lose low speed dcs a bit.
I've yet to test it but I'd imagine with awd it'll not matter much...?!
Anyways December last year I ended up buying a 2015 430d M sport on adaptive dampers instead and while it isn’t the same car, I comepletly agree on the gearbox and throttle response!
In my car I can configure sport mode so I can have suspension and steering in sport mode with the gearbox & throttle in comfort and vice versa. The annoying thing is my ideal configuration isn’t available, which is to have the throttle & steering on sport only, I don’t like how the gearbox holds on to gears, it becomes louder and unless you’re pressing on(turbo whoosh and straight 6 growls...god I love that car) you just hear that loud diesel clatter, Yes someone can say ‘use the paddles’ but there’s so many ratios you find yourself constantly up and down 2-3 gears at a time! I hear the 30d engine has a lot of lag compared to the 35d so I’m not sure how yours is but mine can be frustrating at times when on tiptronic mode.
A friend of mine has a new c class and it has an individual mode as well as the preset modes, individual mode allows you to change all the settings to how you like it, not sure how BMW dropped the ball on that one!
Edited by Chestrockwell on Saturday 18th November 02:40
Edited by Chestrockwell on Saturday 18th November 02:41
Mr Whippy said:
335d LCI is a good car.
If it were lower (acs) it'd be stiffer and ride more harshly, so glad a nice riding version exists as standard.
As it goes it's got amazing ground covering potential and can run rougher roads faster.
Awd means less thinking about deploying power too.
Good power means easy overtakes.
40mpg+ on mixed driving.
My only real issues are naff 'options' on throttle, gearbox and steering.
If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
In theory you can get it almost perfect with sport+ but then when you choose that you lose low speed dcs a bit.
I've yet to test it but I'd imagine with awd it'll not matter much...?!
I'm sorry this just isn't true a decent suspension set up (not just springs) and non fun flat tyre covers everything except rutted fields with more composure If it were lower (acs) it'd be stiffer and ride more harshly, so glad a nice riding version exists as standard.
As it goes it's got amazing ground covering potential and can run rougher roads faster.
Awd means less thinking about deploying power too.
Good power means easy overtakes.
40mpg+ on mixed driving.
My only real issues are naff 'options' on throttle, gearbox and steering.
If the driving modes could all be set with all available throttle maps, suspensions, steering modes and gearbox settings, it'd be perfect.
As it stands you're dicking around with too many buttons to get it how you like it.
In theory you can get it almost perfect with sport+ but then when you choose that you lose low speed dcs a bit.
I've yet to test it but I'd imagine with awd it'll not matter much...?!
You can definitely get around 60plus mpg on the motorway. I think the only thing I find with car is even when giving it the beans it doesn’t feel exciting. It is so efficient at putting down the power. I used to years ago have a Subaru Impreza turbo and that felt faster and more exciting. It would loose badly to the 335 in a straight line
smashy said:
Wills2 said:
But you can't get 50 mpg out of one whilst driving it fast.
Fair point Wills however in a hurry (pressing on in PH world) west london to gloucester 115 miles in an hour and 40 mins ill get 44mpg all day long in my 330d S Drive . What do you reckon in a 340i?Plus a fast car that if you just need to middle lane it from west london to Leicester will show 60mpg. Very sad times for mile munchers like me
Edited by smashy on Friday 17th November 21:39
Mr Whippy said:
Kinda.
Eco Pro as it is but heavier steering.
Comfort with heavier steering, shifting as is.
Sport with heavier steering and throttle, shifting as comfort.
Sport+ as above but dsc slackened.
I only want sport gears when I pick sport and get manual override anyway.
Right now I'm stuck only being able to get sharp throttle if I also take silly gears, which basically means running with paddles which is a pita when doing junction work and steering.
Ah yeah I can't quite remember what it was like in my 335d but yes it's nice to be able to have any of the settings adjusted separately, the only issue is you're then constantly fiddling with them. (well I do) Eco Pro as it is but heavier steering.
Comfort with heavier steering, shifting as is.
Sport with heavier steering and throttle, shifting as comfort.
Sport+ as above but dsc slackened.
I only want sport gears when I pick sport and get manual override anyway.
Right now I'm stuck only being able to get sharp throttle if I also take silly gears, which basically means running with paddles which is a pita when doing junction work and steering.
I don’t see the point of cars like a 335d unless you prefer the power delivery of diesels!
I got a 340i it has enough low end torque for comfortable every day driving, cruises easily and comfortably in the motorway, has a nice engine note if I want to rev it. Can’t see the point where f a 335d... economy? Get the 320d or the 330d. Sure the diesel has more low down torque but the 340i is adequate in the low end too. I certainly don’t find it lacking.
I get 32mpg overall perhaps the diesel would save me a few bucks but in this range of performance I can’t fathom a 335d, if I was worried with mpg I would get a 330d. What the petrol costs me extra per month it’s a bit irrelevant for me at this price range. Don’t run my cars on a shoe string or live hand to mouth.
It must be that done people prefer the power delivery of the diesel and that’s fine but I can’t see any other reason to pick one over a 340i
Mine is now a year old and has 22k miles, love it!
I got a 340i it has enough low end torque for comfortable every day driving, cruises easily and comfortably in the motorway, has a nice engine note if I want to rev it. Can’t see the point where f a 335d... economy? Get the 320d or the 330d. Sure the diesel has more low down torque but the 340i is adequate in the low end too. I certainly don’t find it lacking.
I get 32mpg overall perhaps the diesel would save me a few bucks but in this range of performance I can’t fathom a 335d, if I was worried with mpg I would get a 330d. What the petrol costs me extra per month it’s a bit irrelevant for me at this price range. Don’t run my cars on a shoe string or live hand to mouth.
It must be that done people prefer the power delivery of the diesel and that’s fine but I can’t see any other reason to pick one over a 340i
Mine is now a year old and has 22k miles, love it!
CrgT16 said:
I don’t see the point of cars like a 335d unless you prefer the power delivery of diesels!
I got a 340i it has enough low end torque for comfortable every day driving, cruises easily and comfortably in the motorway, has a nice engine note if I want to rev it. Can’t see the point where f a 335d... economy? Get the 320d or the 330d. Sure the diesel has more low down torque but the 340i is adequate in the low end too. I certainly don’t find it lacking.
I get 32mpg overall perhaps the diesel would save me a few bucks but in this range of performance I can’t fathom a 335d, if I was worried with mpg I would get a 330d. What the petrol costs me extra per month it’s a bit irrelevant for me at this price range. Don’t run my cars on a shoe string or live hand to mouth.
It must be that done people prefer the power delivery of the diesel and that’s fine but I can’t see any other reason to pick one over a 340i
Mine is now a year old and has 22k miles, love it!
I think it’s because of how cheap they are to lease or buy, most 335d’s end up working out to be 20-30 pounds extra a month over a 320d! I was going to lease a Golf GTD until I saw a 335d going for an extra 60 a month, 1500 extra over 2 years for a sub 5 second BMW, diesel or not, it’s very appealingI got a 340i it has enough low end torque for comfortable every day driving, cruises easily and comfortably in the motorway, has a nice engine note if I want to rev it. Can’t see the point where f a 335d... economy? Get the 320d or the 330d. Sure the diesel has more low down torque but the 340i is adequate in the low end too. I certainly don’t find it lacking.
I get 32mpg overall perhaps the diesel would save me a few bucks but in this range of performance I can’t fathom a 335d, if I was worried with mpg I would get a 330d. What the petrol costs me extra per month it’s a bit irrelevant for me at this price range. Don’t run my cars on a shoe string or live hand to mouth.
It must be that done people prefer the power delivery of the diesel and that’s fine but I can’t see any other reason to pick one over a 340i
Mine is now a year old and has 22k miles, love it!
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