E91 Straight Six Bearding
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ferrisbueller said:
g3org3y said:
Mr Tidy said:
Good info.
Thanks for that, certainly cleared things up These fancy pants E90/91/92/93s are far too complicated for a simple person like me.
With the E36 6 Cyls it was straightforward (except perhaps for the later 323i which was actually a 2.5).
g3org3y said:
ferrisbueller said:
g3org3y said:
Mr Tidy said:
Good info.
Thanks for that, certainly cleared things up These fancy pants E90/91/92/93s are far too complicated for a simple person like me.
With the E36 6 Cyls it was straightforward (except perhaps for the later 323i which was actually a 2.5).
Original press releases, road test data, actual car chassis numbers etc have been used as references to try and make sense of it over time. Whereas previously BMW would use the same engine in numerous places they started having more variants, perhaps for product differentiation i.e. making the couple more powerful than the less sporting derivatives, though maybe there are logistical reasons, too, and obviously development and technology changes through product life cycles. Using kW helps to an extent as the various uses of PS and bhp confuses folk, and certified emissions values are an indication, though V5s can also be erroneous.
E90/1 N52 190kW
E92/3 N52 has a "K" suffix and 200kW.
The ultimate conclusion, especially for 2007/8 cars where N53 was introduced was to use references as a guide and check the engine code from the chassis number as there were examples of N52s in cars which "should" have been N53s. I've not found an accurate database online other than checking the engine code on the build sheet.
This looks nice, and has the incredibly rare Individual audio. Having just been in The Netherlands, most BMWs there seem to be none sport models. I think they look great. This would make a lovely daily driver.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
ATM said:
Seller of What?
A rather nice 330i convertible that was linked on the previous page.Re keys. I'd like a spare. It is a case of buying something like this and getting it coded to the car and the key cut? According to the advert, the dealer can't code it?
Or is it a dealer only (£££) job and them ordering from Germany?
Edited by g3org3y on Thursday 13th June 18:15
g3org3y said:
ATM said:
Seller of What?
A rather nice 330i convertible that was linked on the previous page.Re keys. I'd like a spare. It is a case of buying something like this and getting it coded to the car and the key cut? According to the advert, the dealer can't code it?
Or is it a dealer only (£££) job and them ordering from Germany?
Edited by g3org3y on Thursday 13th June 18:15
Right lets try again
Hi guys,
my e92 330i is up for sale on AT after performing faultlessly on a 2500 mile European tour. It's in for an MOT today and has failed on a front near side shock. I'll be replacing both fronts of course and would like to stick with Sachs. Does anyone know if the ECP Sachs shocks here
https://www.eurocarparts.com/shock-absorber
are correct for the M Sport model? They simply state 'with standard chassis' but no other shocks mention anything re a sports or M Sport specific shock (or damper to be correct).
Any info gratefully received.
and no, not ideal having to replace both front shocks just before she goes, I'm glad someone will be getting a looked after 3 series though
Hi guys,
my e92 330i is up for sale on AT after performing faultlessly on a 2500 mile European tour. It's in for an MOT today and has failed on a front near side shock. I'll be replacing both fronts of course and would like to stick with Sachs. Does anyone know if the ECP Sachs shocks here
https://www.eurocarparts.com/shock-absorber
are correct for the M Sport model? They simply state 'with standard chassis' but no other shocks mention anything re a sports or M Sport specific shock (or damper to be correct).
Any info gratefully received.
and no, not ideal having to replace both front shocks just before she goes, I'm glad someone will be getting a looked after 3 series though
g3org3y said:
ATM said:
I bought a replacement key for my e61 which looks like the same key. They can order it ready and working without seeing the car. Just need v5 to prove you're the owner. Key arrives already coded to the car and working. Plug and play.
Do you mean via BMW or aftermarket?BMW
£165
Some insurance companies now cover keys. Some affect your no claim bonus but some do not. I didn't realise in time and paid for it myself.
squareflops said:
Right lets try again
Hi guys,
my e92 330i is up for sale on AT after performing faultlessly on a 2500 mile European tour. It's in for an MOT today and has failed on a front near side shock. I'll be replacing both fronts of course and would like to stick with Sachs. Does anyone know if the ECP Sachs shocks here
https://www.eurocarparts.com/shock-absorber
are correct for the M Sport model? They simply state 'with standard chassis' but no other shocks mention anything re a sports or M Sport specific shock (or damper to be correct).
Any info gratefully received.
and no, not ideal having to replace both front shocks just before she goes, I'm glad someone will be getting a looked after 3 series though
What year is it? I'm not getting any Sachs coming up for the E92 on say a 2007 plate? Just Anschler or Bilstein. Hi guys,
my e92 330i is up for sale on AT after performing faultlessly on a 2500 mile European tour. It's in for an MOT today and has failed on a front near side shock. I'll be replacing both fronts of course and would like to stick with Sachs. Does anyone know if the ECP Sachs shocks here
https://www.eurocarparts.com/shock-absorber
are correct for the M Sport model? They simply state 'with standard chassis' but no other shocks mention anything re a sports or M Sport specific shock (or damper to be correct).
Any info gratefully received.
and no, not ideal having to replace both front shocks just before she goes, I'm glad someone will be getting a looked after 3 series though
Swervin_Mervin said:
Hmmm. Did BMW not use a mix of Sachs or Bilstein? The Billies are listed as for Sport Suspension.
I fitted the Billies from Carparts4less to mine last year with BMW supplied shock kits for the rear.
The part numbers quoted by Ferris bring up Sachs units. I'm not too concerned either way tbh as either will be much better than what's on there now I fitted the Billies from Carparts4less to mine last year with BMW supplied shock kits for the rear.
I've found these from Ferris' provided numbers
https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/sachs-1224307.htm...
If someone could give me better than 50/50 odds that they'll fit my model that would be great, I ideally need to order them today!
squareflops said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
Hmmm. Did BMW not use a mix of Sachs or Bilstein? The Billies are listed as for Sport Suspension.
I fitted the Billies from Carparts4less to mine last year with BMW supplied shock kits for the rear.
The part numbers quoted by Ferris bring up Sachs units. I'm not too concerned either way tbh as either will be much better than what's on there now I fitted the Billies from Carparts4less to mine last year with BMW supplied shock kits for the rear.
I've found these from Ferris' provided numbers
https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/sachs-1224307.htm...
If someone could give me better than 50/50 odds that they'll fit my model that would be great, I ideally need to order them today!
Autodoc etc have a chat function. You could confirm with them before ordering.
ferrisbueller said:
BMW lost the plot with nomenclature in the mid noughties and there are quite a few N52 derivatives. We've been around the houses a few times on this in various threads and established that various online sources, including Wikipedia, weren't accurate and the databases used to feed information into things like autotrader ads were also spurious.
Original press releases, road test data, actual car chassis numbers etc have been used as references to try and make sense of it over time. Whereas previously BMW would use the same engine in numerous places they started having more variants, perhaps for product differentiation i.e. making the couple more powerful than the less sporting derivatives, though maybe there are logistical reasons, too, and obviously development and technology changes through product life cycles. Using kW helps to an extent as the various uses of PS and bhp confuses folk, and certified emissions values are an indication, though V5s can also be erroneous.
E90/1 N52 190kW
E92/3 N52 has a "K" suffix and 200kW.
The ultimate conclusion, especially for 2007/8 cars where N53 was introduced was to use references as a guide and check the engine code from the chassis number as there were examples of N52s in cars which "should" have been N53s. I've not found an accurate database online other than checking the engine code on the build sheet.
BMW only ever quoted outputs in PS, rather than BHP (1 PS is 0.986 bhp I believe).Original press releases, road test data, actual car chassis numbers etc have been used as references to try and make sense of it over time. Whereas previously BMW would use the same engine in numerous places they started having more variants, perhaps for product differentiation i.e. making the couple more powerful than the less sporting derivatives, though maybe there are logistical reasons, too, and obviously development and technology changes through product life cycles. Using kW helps to an extent as the various uses of PS and bhp confuses folk, and certified emissions values are an indication, though V5s can also be erroneous.
E90/1 N52 190kW
E92/3 N52 has a "K" suffix and 200kW.
The ultimate conclusion, especially for 2007/8 cars where N53 was introduced was to use references as a guide and check the engine code from the chassis number as there were examples of N52s in cars which "should" have been N53s. I've not found an accurate database online other than checking the engine code on the build sheet.
E90/91 had 258 PS, but E87, E85/86, E92/93 all had 265PS according to BMW, so you'd hope they would know!
But I would definitely want to avoid any N53 with the HPFP, injector and coking up issues they seem to have.
Mr Tidy said:
BMW only ever quoted outputs in PS, rather than BHP (1 PS is 0.986 bhp I believe).
E90/91 had 258 PS, but E87, E85/86, E92/93 all had 265PS according to BMW, so you'd hope they would know!
But I would definitely want to avoid any N53 with the HPFP, injector and coking up issues they seem to have.
Unless of course the injectors and hpfp have already been replaced, which most will have had by now. The coming up just means that every 40-60k miles you have the intake cleaned, which isn't that expensive and probably only done once in most ownership periods.E90/91 had 258 PS, but E87, E85/86, E92/93 all had 265PS according to BMW, so you'd hope they would know!
But I would definitely want to avoid any N53 with the HPFP, injector and coking up issues they seem to have.
Mike335i said:
Mr Tidy said:
BMW only ever quoted outputs in PS, rather than BHP (1 PS is 0.986 bhp I believe).
E90/91 had 258 PS, but E87, E85/86, E92/93 all had 265PS according to BMW, so you'd hope they would know!
But I would definitely want to avoid any N53 with the HPFP, injector and coking up issues they seem to have.
Unless of course the injectors and hpfp have already been replaced, which most will have had by now. The coming up just means that every 40-60k miles you have the intake cleaned, which isn't that expensive and probably only done once in most ownership periods.E90/91 had 258 PS, but E87, E85/86, E92/93 all had 265PS according to BMW, so you'd hope they would know!
But I would definitely want to avoid any N53 with the HPFP, injector and coking up issues they seem to have.
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