E91 Straight Six Bearding

E91 Straight Six Bearding

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bodhi

10,488 posts

229 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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I went the other way from an E46 330d to a 125i Coupé, and in the 6 years I've been back in the petrol I don't think I ever missed the old diesel. The shove in the petrol is only 1000rpm higher up than the diesel so I don't really find a huge difference in day to day driving, and when the road opens up the petrol is far more satisfying to extend.

Mr Tidy

22,313 posts

127 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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I did something similar in 2014 when I went from a 123d to a 3.0Si Z4Coupe and it never felt sluggish to me.

But the Z4 really came alive at higher revs, whereas the 123d just died!

I've stuck to petrol 6-pots ever since and would never go back to the devil's fuel.

Especially as I don't do enough miles for diesel to make any sort of sense anyway!

bmwmike

6,947 posts

108 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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bodhi said:
I went the other way from an E46 330d to a 125i Coupé, and in the 6 years I've been back in the petrol I don't think I ever missed the old diesel. The shove in the petrol is only 1000rpm higher up than the diesel so I don't really find a huge difference in day to day driving, and when the road opens up the petrol is far more satisfying to extend.
yep - nothing like the legs of a wide rev range and an open road!


MikeM6

5,004 posts

102 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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bmwmike said:
yep - nothing like the legs of a wide rev range and an open road!
Absolutely, shame it's so damp and cold on the roads, trying to use all 8krpm is a little squirrelly hehe Never had that problem with the 335i

cerb4.5lee

30,570 posts

180 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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MikeM6 said:
bmwmike said:
yep - nothing like the legs of a wide rev range and an open road!
Absolutely, shame it's so damp and cold on the roads, trying to use all 8krpm is a little squirrelly hehe Never had that problem with the 335i
Yes and on the right road and at the right time...a high revving NA engine is a joy for sure. I used to love 8400rpm in third at 110mph and then slamming it into fourth in my E92 M3. driving

Day to day though the S65 engine drove me mad, and I much prefer the usability of a turbo in that situation to be fair. I wouldn't want to use my 370Z(it only revs to 7500rpm though) either as a daily, but I do really enjoy it on the right road though for certain.

A turbo for a daily...and a NA for occasional use works well for me.

ferrisbueller

29,325 posts

227 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Noticing with mine that I'm getting more transmission/diff noise as the miles go on, which I guess is to be expected with the miles now nudging 125k.

Now and again I do the frivolous "what would I replace it with?" exercise, which usually leads me back to something very similar, if not the same. Or something vastly more expensive.

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Have you done the diff/gearbox oils?


Changing them with some sort of additive, like Ceratec might help quieten them down.


I don't see anything about to replace mine, short of spending a lot of cash.

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Just took my old 330d E91 manual back in, a car I sold back in 2015, now on close to 170k miles and it’s driving just as good as it was when I sold it at 120k miles.

Full history 170k miles drives like it’s done 90k mikes these 6 cylinder E90 series cars really are very well made.

ferrisbueller

29,325 posts

227 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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JakeT said:
Have you done the diff/gearbox oils?


Changing them with some sort of additive, like Ceratec might help quieten them down.


I don't see anything about to replace mine, short of spending a lot of cash.
I haven't, though I had been thinking about it and had added it to the list of things to do. I've got quite a lot of tyre noise, too, so I have a number of different sound frequencies coming at me. I actually suspect that a new SKF wheel bearing I fitted on the front is louder than the old one.

duff

983 posts

199 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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I’m almost at 1 years ownership of my E91 330d. The car has been great and completely reliable in the 15k miles I’ve done in that time, however it’s certainly not been cheap!

03-20 Service £160
06-20 2 PS4S £288
08-20 Refurbished 3 wheels and a new one from BMW plus centre caps and badges £700ish
08-20 Brake fluid, adjust handbrake, clean up a couple of oil leaks £212
10-20 New windscreen £100 ins excess plus new wiper £30
11-20 Mot, 2 rear shocks plus misc bolts, mounts etc £520
11-20 Major service, overhaul rear handbrake, new oil filter housing gasket £676
11-20 Tailgate struts £20

Needless to say I’m hoping the next year is less costly! At least the car isn’t really depreciating much which offsets the expense somewhat.



p1stonhead

25,543 posts

167 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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duff said:
I’m almost at 1 years ownership of my E91 330d. The car has been great and completely reliable in the 15k miles I’ve done in that time, however it’s certainly not been cheap!

03-20 Service £160
06-20 2 PS4S £288
08-20 Refurbished 3 wheels and a new one from BMW plus centre caps and badges £700ish
08-20 Brake fluid, adjust handbrake, clean up a couple of oil leaks £212
10-20 New windscreen £100 ins excess plus new wiper £30
11-20 Mot, 2 rear shocks plus misc bolts, mounts etc £520
11-20 Major service, overhaul rear handbrake, new oil filter housing gasket £676
11-20 Tailgate struts £20

Needless to say I’m hoping the next year is less costly! At least the car isn’t really depreciating much which offsets the expense somewhat.
Couple of oil leaks, handbrake, oil filter gasket, tailgate struts, rear shocks....

You call that ‘completely reliable’?

Blimey.

duff

983 posts

199 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Reliable in that it’s never let me down, yes.

Oil filter housing gasket was one of the previously mentioned leaks and I don’t know why you’d list tailgate struts (that hold but creak and look past their best) as a reliability issue?

MajorMantra

1,294 posts

112 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Couple of oil leaks, handbrake, oil filter gasket, tailgate struts, rear shocks....

You call that ‘completely reliable’?

Blimey.
That's virtually all wear and tear stuff. Unreliability is stuff unexpectedly breaking.

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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A friendly reminder for owners of the petrol variety (namely N52) owners to have a check of those DISA valves.

I replaced the starter and CCV system in mine over the past couple of days, and found...



Followed by the flap and pin inside the inlet. Fortunate it didn't cause any real damage. I checked the smaller one, and that was fine. A new one from BMW is £260, though. eek

ferrisbueller

29,325 posts

227 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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What made you go looking?

daver1184

104 posts

171 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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I found exactly the same thing in my N52 a few months ago. I think we've both had a narrow escape...
My 330i has starship mileage so I struggle throwing big cash at it, so I replaced both DISA's with Chinese knock offs for ~£40 each.
They appear to be identical to the genuine parts just without the logos... Fingers crossed.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
What made you go looking?
I would guess the fact it is an N52 and they break, and write your engine off?

ferrisbueller

29,325 posts

227 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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gizlaroc said:
ferrisbueller said:
What made you go looking?
I would guess the fact it is an N52 and they break, and write your engine off?
As opposed to a noise, change in performance or fault code....

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
What made you go looking?
I've been chasing a low engine speed stumble/hesitation when going at the throttle quickly since I've had the car. It was always worst when coming out of the Peage fast lanes in France, picking up from low revs in third.

When I was pulling the manifold I wanted to inspect them anyway, and that's what I found. The big valve can be removed with the manifold on, the smaller requires the manifold to come off.


From reading, the bigger of the two valves is more likely to fail and come off. They can sound rattly before they do fail. New BMW valves look to have a different shaft which should help them not fail. I bought a BMW one, as it could be in my hands in less than 24 hours.

ferrisbueller

29,325 posts

227 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Definitely be interested in knowing who the OEM supplier is. Autodoc shows a few options.