F10 M5 question - running in service

F10 M5 question - running in service

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nickd911

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23 posts

79 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Hi,

I’ve seen an M5 F10 for sale from a main dealer, but the first service was at 4600 miles. Should I steer clear? As the running in service was missed, they won’t provide a full BMW warranty, but the dealer will provide their own warranty which is very comprehensive and covers everything. The dealer originally priced with the full BMW warranty as they thought the service history was full, as it isn’t what should I push to be taken of the price? The car is up for circa £37k.

Also the car is a 14 plate on 50k, and had disc and pads replaced at 16,000. Does this sound wrong?

Thanks for the help and sorry for all the questions🙂.

Nick

JMBMWM5

2,283 posts

197 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Give it a wide birth.

Mark83

1,157 posts

200 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Too expensive. Plenty of lower mileage cars for that money, with a running service. It'll probably CAP about £10k less than that sticker price.

If you're asking questions now, imagine trying to have to sell it on and people knocking you down.

nickd911

Original Poster:

23 posts

79 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Ok, thanks for the advise. Price wise, if they started with a 2 and I got a 2 year BMW select warranty would it be worth considering?

What are the implications of a late running in service? Also could it have been done and not logged?


R33FAL

529 posts

167 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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to give you context I got a well optioned facelift 63 reg AUC car with 3 years warranty and 24k miles for a similar amount

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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There should be enough cars that you don't have to compromise on a questionable one, I would have thought?

nickd911

Original Poster:

23 posts

79 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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Ok, my plan is to buy an M5, and keep it until May - July next year, then P/X it in for a GLS or XC90 (need the seven seats) between now and then I wanted something for fun that can still carry wife and 4 kids should I need our current XC90 for the day.

What I'm thinking is, running in service aside, If I can get this car cheap with an warranty for peace of mind (http://www.sytner.co.uk/sytner-select/select-warranty/six-month-warranty/), knowing in 8/9 months it will go to webuyanycar / Volvo or Merc dealer as a PX and they prob wont ask about the running in service. If they do, I go to the next dealer smile Cheeky, but as long as I get back roughly what I paid I will be a happy boy.

The problem is the car is the right colour combo and has every option ticked, I'm thinking sub £30k and it could be a bargain (as i'm not worried about a private sale). Its a toughie as I don't want a lemon

JMBMWM5

2,283 posts

197 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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nickd911 said:
Ok, my plan is to buy an M5, and keep it until May - July next year, then P/X it in for a GLS or XC90 (need the seven seats) between now and then I wanted something for fun that can still carry wife and 4 kids should I need our current XC90 for the day.

What I'm thinking is, running in service aside, If I can get this car cheap with an warranty for peace of mind (http://www.sytner.co.uk/sytner-select/select-warranty/six-month-warranty/), knowing in 8/9 months it will go to webuyanycar / Volvo or Merc dealer as a PX and they prob wont ask about the running in service. If they do, I go to the next dealer smile Cheeky, but as long as I get back roughly what I paid I will be a happy boy.

The problem is the car is the right colour combo and has every option ticked, I'm thinking sub £30k and it could be a bargain (as i'm not worried about a private sale). Its a toughie as I don't want a lemon
Normally NO running in service within mileage constrains NO WARRANTY

beanoir

1,327 posts

194 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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I wouldn't touch it, too much bother and it won't be that cheap if its from the dealer.

Trying to sell it on or trade in with another reputable main dealer will mean you'll take a financial hit - IF you're prepared to take the hit then go for it, but as others have said there are plenty of other decent examples out there.

Brakes were changed very early also, mine is on 23k and the brakes are nowhere near needing to be changed, maybe the rear pads at next service. I don't go easy and i'm not a daily motorway driver either. Sounds like it's had a hard and uncared for life so far.


nickd911

Original Poster:

23 posts

79 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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beanoir said:
I wouldn't touch it, too much bother and it won't be that cheap if its from the dealer.

Trying to sell it on or trade in with another reputable main dealer will mean you'll take a financial hit - IF you're prepared to take the hit then go for it, but as others have said there are plenty of other decent examples out there.

Brakes were changed very early also, mine is on 23k and the brakes are nowhere near needing to be changed, maybe the rear pads at next service. I don't go easy and i'm not a daily motorway driver either. Sounds like it's had a hard and uncared for life so far.
This is what i'm thinking, but then why fully spec. I will speak to BMW and see if it's an old press car or if they have anything on it. like you say plenty more out there smile

andyvdg

1,536 posts

282 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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nickd911 said:
I’ve seen an M5 F10 for sale from a main dealer....

...they won’t provide a full BMW warranty....

Nick
Run away.

tomtom

4,223 posts

229 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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R33FAL said:
to give you context I got a well optioned facelift 63 reg AUC car with 3 years warranty and 24k miles for a similar amount
My AUC late '64 with 35k on it and 2.5 yrs warranty was less than the car in the OP too. I'd avoid it.

TheAngryDog

12,394 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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lots of posts telling the OP not to buy it, but the OP is going to try and buy it anyway. Why even bother asking for peoples advice and opinions if you're going to ignore it?

Wills2

22,663 posts

174 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Mental, no running service, no warranty and £37k?!

Also buying a RWD 560hp car to run through the winter and then change to a 4x4 in the summer? (If I read the OP correctly) doesn't make sense either.

As an example I got £42k for a 31,000 mile 14 plate LCI M5 nearly 2 years ago, paying 37k now for one with 50k and no warranty is crazy.






Edited by Wills2 on Tuesday 21st November 16:12

gcpeters

959 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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its my favourite quote - an "askhole"

ask for advice, never uses it wink

nickd911

Original Poster:

23 posts

79 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Thanks for the advice all. Instead went for a low mileage comp pack with warranty, service pack and the running in service completed at 1020 miles smile

nickd911

Original Poster:

23 posts

79 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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gcpeters said:
its my favourite quote - an "askhole"

ask for advice, never uses it wink
Why would you think that? But for the record, when I spoke to Munich Legends (who are probably better informed then a few armchair keyboard warriors), as a private buyer, they would bite the garages hand off. Obviously based on samples of the engine, transmission and diff oil being tested for any contamination.

In fact it was the garage not playing ball and not seeming interested in selling the car, and the RIS scratching my brain, that I thought bks, test drove another car last Thursday and picked it up on Friday. Hey ho.

nickd911

Original Poster:

23 posts

79 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Wills2 said:
Mental, no running service, no warranty and £37k?!

Also buying a RWD 560hp car to run through the winter and then change to a 4x4 in the summer? (If I read the OP correctly) doesn't make sense either.

As an example I got £42k for a 31,000 mile 14 plate LCI M5 nearly 2 years ago, paying 37k now for one with 50k and no warranty is crazy.






Edited by Wills2 on Tuesday 21st November 16:12
Fun? I already have another 4x4. but the Gen1 XC90 is a bit small for family holidays into Europe, so wanna get something bigger for August next year. Having had a GLS last weekend, I think its decision made smile

padhinbed

141 posts

149 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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I've just come across what I think is the same car (now £33k). It's still advertised as AUC and on the BMW website but when I spoke to the dealer, they advised it's only coming with their own warranty and not BMW as the running in service was 3k miles late.

Thought I would update this thread and say thanks as the above confirmed my suspicions and I didn't proceed.

Still don't understand why the running in service would be so late. I thought the iDrive told you when it was due and most people buying an M are aware of the importance of the running in service for warranty purposes.

matt21

4,285 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Went to see this today. The car is in fantastic condition, and the pads and discs were replaced under warranty. Clearly the big issue is the running in service very late and the car only having BMW select warranty.

Big shame as the car ticked every box and drove beautifully