BMW car buying decision

BMW car buying decision

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Court_S

12,929 posts

177 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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As much as the OP doesn't want one, a diesel does sound like it would suit his usage.

My M140i is pretty efficient for what it is, but with a relatively small tank the range is pretty limited and at best I might nudge 400 miles whereas my previous diesel vRS would pretty much be pushing 600 if driven in a similar fashion.

The six cylinder diesels are pretty damn good. I was tempted by an F30 335d but the suspension was dire and rather killed it for me.

Pica-Pica

13,774 posts

84 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Court_S said:
As much as the OP doesn't want one, a diesel does sound like it would suit his usage.

My M140i is pretty efficient for what it is, but with a relatively small tank the range is pretty limited and at best I might nudge 400 miles whereas my previous diesel vRS would pretty much be pushing 600 if driven in a similar fashion.

The six cylinder diesels are pretty damn good. I was tempted by an F30 335d but the suspension was dire and rather killed it for me.
My F30 LCI 335d, and now on 18” wheels is OK for me, nothing dire about it. I have read a lot about suspension upgrades, Birds etc, but I cannot see how £xxx amount spent will make me £xxx amount more content. Tank range just nudges over 500 miles before ‘50 mile remaining’ comes up.
Once you are used to having the torque, it would be hard to drop lower.

BFleming

3,602 posts

143 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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ashenfie said:
Electric cars work for company car users because of the tax breaks for drivers who have their own way to charge. I see more and more charge point fulls these days and this suggests charging is not scalable.
The first part of your first sentence is correct - electric cars work as company cars because of the tax breaks. The second part, regarding charging, is less so. I know of several people who choose the company car hybrid option, and don't have the means to charge the car, nor any particular interest in doing so. Example: A friend got a 530e as a company car, and never charged it (on-street parking only at home). He had a fuel card, so didn't ultimately care if it did 20mpg or 120mpg. He would have had the 530i under normal circumstances, but the BIK argument is a convincing one.
I'm not sure what you mean by charging not being scalable, as it is (scalable). It's just not happening at the same rate as electric cars or plug-in hybrids are being sold. Everyone I know with a fully electric car has a driveway and a charging point. I think you'd need to look at the logistics and feasibility of charging otherwise, which may become a massive drawback (i.e. driving round for 30 mins looking for a free charger, possibly having to pay for parking at the same time, and having to move the car again when it's charged). They suit some people for different reasons, but not everyone.

Back on the chat about which BMW to buy, there is a big difference in quality between the 1/2/3/4 series BMWs, and the 5/6/7 series. We owned a 1 series (F20), and I've driven a few 3 series F30's - they're similar in terms of refinement. The 5 though is a massive step up.

Pizzaeatingking

493 posts

71 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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Court_S said:
The six cylinder diesels are pretty damn good. I was tempted by an F30 335d but the suspension was dire and rather killed it for me.
Similar thoughts from me too, I tested one before getting my 40i. The diesel has plenty of shove but it does need the suspension sorting, the SE setup is too soft for something of that performance, at least for how I'd want to use it.

xcesx

134 posts

152 months

Wednesday 28th October 2020
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I had an F30 335d for 3 years but wrote it off in an accident. I bought it brand new and fitted the AC springs straight away. Made it drive and look better. I think I spent about £500 all in for the springs and fitting.

I agree the 5 series up is a step up in quality.

I’ve got 2 cars, a G31 530d X Drive and a Golf GTI PP. I echo the comments about the petrol cars being ok on fuel. There’s nothing in it with mine cost wise, the D might be more efficient on a run but petrol is cheaper so I’d say they’re about the same.



JoelTLOU

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11 posts

42 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Thank you everyone for your input. I think while a diesel definitely tickets all the boxes for what I would like, I'd feel more comfortable going with a 530i for now. The MPG is reasonable, according to Honest John, 36 mpg. The 40i @ 29mpg is just a tad too thirsty for me, though I'd love a 6 cylinder one day....

Anything is a step up from my current car (of which I will not be disclosing the make......lol)

Hopefully in a few years BMW hybrids become more viable, as at the moment it seems pointless for me as a private buyer.

Sir Bagalot

6,478 posts

181 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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DeWar said:
530d - 60mpg
laugh

Court_S

12,929 posts

177 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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Pica-Pica said:
Court_S said:
As much as the OP doesn't want one, a diesel does sound like it would suit his usage.

My M140i is pretty efficient for what it is, but with a relatively small tank the range is pretty limited and at best I might nudge 400 miles whereas my previous diesel vRS would pretty much be pushing 600 if driven in a similar fashion.

The six cylinder diesels are pretty damn good. I was tempted by an F30 335d but the suspension was dire and rather killed it for me.
My F30 LCI 335d, and now on 18” wheels is OK for me, nothing dire about it. I have read a lot about suspension upgrades, Birds etc, but I cannot see how £xxx amount spent will make me £xxx amount more content. Tank range just nudges over 500 miles before ‘50 mile remaining’ comes up.
Once you are used to having the torque, it would be hard to drop lower.
I wasn’t a fan of the one I test drove. It was comfortable enough on 19’s, but it pitched and rolled under acceleration and braking. I normally take reviews / forum stuff with a pinch of salt but it was very very noticeable to me very quickly.

Pica-Pica

13,774 posts

84 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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Court_S said:
Pica-Pica said:
Court_S said:
As much as the OP doesn't want one, a diesel does sound like it would suit his usage.

My M140i is pretty efficient for what it is, but with a relatively small tank the range is pretty limited and at best I might nudge 400 miles whereas my previous diesel vRS would pretty much be pushing 600 if driven in a similar fashion.

The six cylinder diesels are pretty damn good. I was tempted by an F30 335d but the suspension was dire and rather killed it for me.
My F30 LCI 335d, and now on 18” wheels is OK for me, nothing dire about it. I have read a lot about suspension upgrades, Birds etc, but I cannot see how £xxx amount spent will make me £xxx amount more content. Tank range just nudges over 500 miles before ‘50 mile remaining’ comes up.
Once you are used to having the torque, it would be hard to drop lower.
I wasn’t a fan of the one I test drove. It was comfortable enough on 19’s, but it pitched and rolled under acceleration and braking. I normally take reviews / forum stuff with a pinch of salt but it was very very noticeable to me very quickly.
I have no pitching or rolling. Are you saying it ‘rolled’ under acceleration and braking. That I find very odd.

Court_S

12,929 posts

177 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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Pica-Pica said:
Court_S said:
Pica-Pica said:
Court_S said:
As much as the OP doesn't want one, a diesel does sound like it would suit his usage.

My M140i is pretty efficient for what it is, but with a relatively small tank the range is pretty limited and at best I might nudge 400 miles whereas my previous diesel vRS would pretty much be pushing 600 if driven in a similar fashion.

The six cylinder diesels are pretty damn good. I was tempted by an F30 335d but the suspension was dire and rather killed it for me.
My F30 LCI 335d, and now on 18” wheels is OK for me, nothing dire about it. I have read a lot about suspension upgrades, Birds etc, but I cannot see how £xxx amount spent will make me £xxx amount more content. Tank range just nudges over 500 miles before ‘50 mile remaining’ comes up.
Once you are used to having the torque, it would be hard to drop lower.
I wasn’t a fan of the one I test drove. It was comfortable enough on 19’s, but it pitched and rolled under acceleration and braking. I normally take reviews / forum stuff with a pinch of salt but it was very very noticeable to me very quickly.
I have no pitching or rolling. Are you saying it ‘rolled’ under acceleration and braking. That I find very odd.
It pitched backwards / forwards under acceleration and braking and rolled a fair bit around the corners. I’m really not a an of the SE suspension that the F series X Drive cars were fitted with. I personally found it very out of step with the performance on offer. Great engine but the suspension set up really let it down in my opinion.

xcesx

134 posts

152 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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Sir Bagalot said:
DeWar said:
530d - 60mpg
laugh
Not much chance of seeing 60mpg unless you're down hill with a good wind!


Uncle boshy

261 posts

69 months

Monday 9th November 2020
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I swapped from a company f11 520d to a f31 320i.

The 5 was a better cruiser, but the 3 feels much more agile and is more fun on the country roads, might be due to less weight over the nose.

Not a significant change in mpg.

Armchair_Expert

18,302 posts

206 months

Tuesday 10th November 2020
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230i

428i


These are exclusive, and clever options, which you should seriously consider. A 428i will give you space and enough performance vs running costs. If you can lose some space a 230i will be a more agile drivers car.

bigfish786

77 posts

147 months

Wednesday 11th November 2020
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I was never a fan of diesel, mainly because I’d had small non turbo models, or work vans etc, so stayed away from them.
I went from 2.0L ecoboost (remapped) to the 335d xdrive and I love it.
Loads of power and refinement, comfort and great spec.
Doesn’t sound or feel like diesel, and would only be 150 quid a year tax (except for the Over 40k extra fee)
I’ll happily keep this for 10 years .
I’m sure technology will have galloped on by then.
The new Delorean will be out for sure. 👍

JoelTLOU

Original Poster:

11 posts

42 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Well I've ended up getting an M SPORT 530i - coming 23rd November!