M52TUB23

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Bunoaica Ionut

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5 posts

38 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Hello guys!I have an M52TUB23 on my e36 and I need more power!What intakes I can put on this engine?From m54b30?Give me an ideea People! 😁😁

Olivergt

1,325 posts

81 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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As far as I know there is very little you can do with these engines to increase power.

There was one 2.5 that you could put the intake from a 2.8 on but can't remember which one.

Just enjoy it for what it is, a silky smooth 6 cylinder. Think of it as a cruiser, not a bruiser, if you can't then probably best to swap it in for an E46 3.0.

BFleming

3,595 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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M52TUB23 on your e36? I don't think you do. You might be referring to the M52TUB25 or M52TUB28, but they were never fitted to the E36 (the Z3 and E46 got them).
On the off chance you have a M52TUB28, you can fit the M54B30 inlet manifold to them, but you need to retain your cable-actuated throttle body from your M52TUB28 and buy an adapter plate to allow it to fit.

Andy70

1,113 posts

159 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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I had an e36 325i and a 328i once and back in those days everything was far simpler, now there is a variation of a variation of an engine but back then you always knew a 323, 325 and 328 as they all had 2 tips on the exhaust anything less was 1... The 323 was a 2.5 engine but without the variable valve timing, the 325i had the variable timing and the 328i was basically 'strangled' (due to tax reasons or something). In fact you could tune a 328i not far off a 330i by putting the 325i inlet manifold on, (the 328 had the manifold from a 320i apparently) and removing the restriction in the air filter housing. but all of this was only a few horsepower, buy a faster car if you want power, or just enjoy what you got. I believe turbo kits may be available as they are for the e46 lol.. But you need to be sure what you have. If its a 320, then give up :-). I've been trying to make cars go faster for years and I've learned that anything naturally aspirated gains minimal amounts even if you chuck a lot of money at it

aka_kerrly

12,417 posts

210 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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For the E36 M52 323i with the 2.5L engine the M50 325i obd1 Inlet manifold with a throttle adapter plate is the way to go. Add intake & exhaust upgrades and a chip which gives a 7200rpm limit and you should have over 200hp with a healthy engine.

Bunoaica Ionut

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5 posts

38 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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BFleming said:
M52TUB23 on your e36? I don't think you do. You might be referring to the M52TUB25 or M52TUB28, but they were never fitted to the E36 (the Z3 and E46 got them).
On the off chance you have a M52TUB28, you can fit the M54B30 inlet manifold to them, but you need to retain your cable-actuated throttle body from your M52TUB28 and buy an adapter plate to allow it to fit.
I mounted that engine with the e46 electric wires from a 323ci e46 coupe..

Bunoaica Ionut

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5 posts

38 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Andy70 said:
I had an e36 325i and a 328i once and back in those days everything was far simpler, now there is a variation of a variation of an engine but back then you always knew a 323, 325 and 328 as they all had 2 tips on the exhaust anything less was 1... The 323 was a 2.5 engine but without the variable valve timing, the 325i had the variable timing and the 328i was basically 'strangled' (due to tax reasons or something). In fact you could tune a 328i not far off a 330i by putting the 325i inlet manifold on, (the 328 had the manifold from a 320i apparently) and removing the restriction in the air filter housing. but all of this was only a few horsepower, buy a faster car if you want power, or just enjoy what you got. I believe turbo kits may be available as they are for the e46 lol.. But you need to be sure what you have. If its a 320, then give up :-). I've been trying to make cars go faster for years and I've learned that anything naturally aspirated gains minimal amounts even if you chuck a lot of money at it
I have a friend with 328 e36 with intakes 330 on admission and 325 on exhaust,a good soft and another little modifications and easy beat 300-350hp diesel cars on 402m

Andy70

1,113 posts

159 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Bunoaica Ionut said:
I have a friend with 328 e36 with intakes 330 on admission and 325 on exhaust,a good soft and another little modifications and easy beat 300-350hp diesel cars on 402m
Eh?? you'd be lucky to get much more than 220bhp with a e36 328i, they were 190bhp standard if I recall?? so a few upgrades still wouldn't make it much quicker, so to beat a car with 100bhp more?? someone is telling porkies somewhere, or was the 328 supercharged? or the diesel was 90bhp really???

BFleming

3,595 posts

143 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Bunoaica Ionut said:
BFleming said:
M52TUB23 on your e36? I don't think you do. You might be referring to the M52TUB25 or M52TUB28, but they were never fitted to the E36 (the Z3 and E46 got them).
On the off chance you have a M52TUB28, you can fit the M54B30 inlet manifold to them, but you need to retain your cable-actuated throttle body from your M52TUB28 and buy an adapter plate to allow it to fit.
I mounted that engine with the e46 electric wires from a 323ci e46 coupe..
That's the M52TUB25.

Bunoaica Ionut

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5 posts

38 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Wbabm31070ez71249 this is the vin number..everyone says it's m52tub23..I dont know how to check if it's m52tub25

Bunoaica Ionut

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5 posts

38 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Andy70 said:
Bunoaica Ionut said:
I have a friend with 328 e36 with intakes 330 on admission and 325 on exhaust,a good soft and another little modifications and easy beat 300-350hp diesel cars on 402m
Eh?? you'd be lucky to get much more than 220bhp with a e36 328i, they were 190bhp standard if I recall?? so a few upgrades still wouldn't make it much quicker, so to beat a car with 100bhp more?? someone is telling porkies somewhere, or was the 328 supercharged? or the diesel was 90bhp really???
Bro,watch on internet about bmw aspirated card.. I can easy beat 220hp diesel cars with my 170hp bmw..I can send you a video with my stock car beating audi tt 1.8t BAM engine on 402m..

E-bmw

9,195 posts

152 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Andy70 said:
Bunoaica Ionut said:
I have a friend with 328 e36 with intakes 330 on admission and 325 on exhaust,a good soft and another little modifications and easy beat 300-350hp diesel cars on 402m
Eh?? you'd be lucky to get much more than 220bhp with a e36 328i, they were 190bhp standard if I recall?? so a few upgrades still wouldn't make it much quicker, so to beat a car with 100bhp more?? someone is telling porkies somewhere, or was the 328 supercharged? or the diesel was 90bhp really???
That depends on what you mean by "much more" I got 238bhp without touching the actual engine, there is potentially another 40 - 60 available with internal engine mods I am led to believe.

None of it is cheap though & whether it would beat X, Y Z would depend on much more than actual BHP.

The "go to" intake mods for these are 325 intake manifold, which needs some modification/re-plumbing removal of the DSC throttle body, proper CAI & smoothing out the inlet path.

Couple these with an M3 exhaust, and external fuel rail regulator with 0.5 bar increase in pressure & a good map & you will be about where I was.

Don't forget that is the 328, but I was told at the time that as the 2.5 engine is lighter internally & revs better you will still get fairly close to it.

Historically the 323 & 328 were fitted with the puny inlet pipes from the 320 to strangle them back. The 325 had the full-flow inlet manifold.