E30 325i wont go above 4000RPM!!!

E30 325i wont go above 4000RPM!!!

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Touring442

3,096 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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I'd suspect the flap in the air flow meter could be binding.The throttle position sensor sits on the underside of the throttle body and over time oil leaks in - but whilst you can remove it, open it up and clean it out I don't think that's it.

It sounds like a fuel delivery thing or the ignition timing isn't advancing - that's an ECU or crank sensor fault. No cam sensor on the M20.

onthames

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Saturday 19th June 2021
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Touring442 said:
I'd suspect the flap in the air flow meter could be binding.The throttle position sensor sits on the underside of the throttle body and over time oil leaks in - but whilst you can remove it, open it up and clean it out I don't think that's it.

It sounds like a fuel delivery thing or the ignition timing isn't advancing - that's an ECU or crank sensor fault. No cam sensor on the M20.
So should I take the afm off and clean the flap/wiggle it? What's the process you'd do

onthames

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Saturday 19th June 2021
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Afm flap fine. Moves with ease and doesn't bind. Clean in there too.

onthames

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sunbeam alpine said:
One very simple thing to try is running without the fuel filler cap. If the tank isn't venting properly, fuel can't get out. Produces these kind of symptoms.
Didn't help

buggalugs

9,243 posts

237 months

Saturday 19th June 2021
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Are you able to check fuel rail pressure when the problem is occurring? Can’t remember how easy it is to get O2 sensor data on those, if you even have one.

onthames

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buggalugs said:
Are you able to check fuel rail pressure when the problem is occurring? Can’t remember how easy it is to get O2 sensor data on those, if you even have one.
No O2 sensor on my car I don't think
Also no idea how I'd go about checking fuel rail pressure. Cheers though

buggalugs

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Saturday 19th June 2021
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onthames said:
buggalugs said:
Are you able to check fuel rail pressure when the problem is occurring? Can’t remember how easy it is to get O2 sensor data on those, if you even have one.
No O2 sensor on my car I don't think
Also no idea how I'd go about checking fuel rail pressure. Cheers though
Should be able to 'T' off somewhere to a gauge, there are some kits available on amazon

Touring442

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209 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Rail pressure is a good shout. A way of testing would be to clamp the return hose with it idling and see if the engine revs more responsively. A split diaphragm in the fuel pressure regulator could cause this.

onthames

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Sunday 20th June 2021
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Problem is only under load idle rev is fine even when hot

Touring442

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209 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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So it won't go over 100 mph in 5th? They were geared up at around 25mph/1000.

buggalugs

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237 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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onthames said:
Problem is only under load idle rev is fine even when hot
I saw you've already changed the fuel pump and filter it was just that the symptoms fit loosing fuel pressure at high injector duty so thought it was worth double checking the pressure anyway, can't remember what info you can get out of that ECU in terms of live data but there might be some interesting numbers in there too

Touring442

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209 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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A post 9/87 build 325i will have Motronic 1.3 with the crank sensor on the front pulley reading TDC and RPM as opposed to the older system with two separate sensors on the flywheel. There will be a C101 plug for diagnostics - what can be read from it is debatable.

For what they cost, I'd replace the fuel pressure regulator. Make sure the vacuum pipe isn't leaking as well.

onthames

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Monday 21st June 2021
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Touring442 said:
A post 9/87 build 325i will have Motronic 1.3 with the crank sensor on the front pulley reading TDC and RPM as opposed to the older system with two separate sensors on the flywheel. There will be a C101 plug for diagnostics - what can be read from it is debatable.

For what they cost, I'd replace the fuel pressure regulator. Make sure the vacuum pipe isn't leaking as well.
Will replace.

Touring442 said:
So it won't go over 100 mph in 5th? They were geared up at around 25mph/1000.
Struggles at around 90 yeah. Sometimes lower depending on how long I've been driving. This is on track of course wink


Cars currently in the bodyshop guys having full M-tech 2 kit fitted + painted so gonna be a couple weeks before I try any of this stuff. Will update the thread then and thanks for all the help. Hopefully its something harmless and nothing serious is damaged (like an ECU!)

McGee_22

6,713 posts

179 months

Monday 21st June 2021
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Have you ever changed the fuel filter/cleaned the fuel pick up?

onthames

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Saturday 31st July 2021
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Am changing fuel tank. Will update

E-bmw

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152 months

Saturday 31st July 2021
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onthames said:
Am changing fuel tank. Will update
Why?

onthames

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Saturday 31st July 2021
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E-bmw said:
Why?
I believe the car drives fine for a bit because over 20 or so mins flakes of rust etc from tank get sucked onto the sock filter on bottom of in-tank pump. Which is why restarting the car causes the problem to go away and then come back (turns off the pump, dropping the gunk off the sock)
Tank needs replacing anyway, rust inside and is original and too much faff to clean inside, cheaper to get a new one.

onthames

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Friday 6th August 2021
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Fixed. I took the cover off the afm and cleaned all contacts with electrical contact spray and bent the arm ever so slightly to make contact with a new area of the carbon rail