Bikes really are unsafe
Discussion
Having read the ongoing threads about the two top end sportsbikes (S1000RR and Panigale), one of which has a recall for a pretty major failure and the other having a high speed weave, like the Pan European a few years back. It's becoming clear that bikes are inherently unsafe.
No matter how I ride or how much care I take, there will always be an underlying manufacturung defect within them. There's been some bad press for all the major makes from fork failures, to frames snapping and so on.
Given that I'm the breadwinner, is it fair for me to jack it in and sell the bikes, as I'm worried I could end up as a statistic in someone else's law suit?
No matter how I ride or how much care I take, there will always be an underlying manufacturung defect within them. There's been some bad press for all the major makes from fork failures, to frames snapping and so on.
Given that I'm the breadwinner, is it fair for me to jack it in and sell the bikes, as I'm worried I could end up as a statistic in someone else's law suit?
, i'd say no..As with anything you do in life, you have to weigh up the risks involved in doing it.
We aren't here indefinitely and will at some point die - its just a matter of how.
I would rather pop my clogs doing something I enjoy (or sooner because of) than living in a cotton wool box for my entire life never doing anything and worrying about walking to waitrose as there may be a car with brake failure at the zebra crossing.
Just IMHO of course! Just make sure suitable life insurance is in place.
We aren't here indefinitely and will at some point die - its just a matter of how.
I would rather pop my clogs doing something I enjoy (or sooner because of) than living in a cotton wool box for my entire life never doing anything and worrying about walking to waitrose as there may be a car with brake failure at the zebra crossing.
Just IMHO of course! Just make sure suitable life insurance is in place.
deltashad said:
Did the TL1000s not have some really bad problem when it was originally launched?
Something to do with the yokes leading on to high speed tank slappers? I did a search but didn't see anything. Don't know why that's stuck in my head...
Nothing to do with the yokes. A short wheelbase, phenomenally grunty engine, light weight and a steep head angle all conspired to bite people on the arse. The never-seen-since rotary rear shock was often hinted at (by the likes of Maxton, etc) as being a contributory factor, but at the end of the day it was just a bike that demanded respect.Something to do with the yokes leading on to high speed tank slappers? I did a search but didn't see anything. Don't know why that's stuck in my head...
Of course, the utter
s at MCN jumped up and down on it, hyping it up beyond all belief. "Killer bike" this, "Widow maker" that...editing readers letters from "My ZZR1100 had a mild tank slapper..." to "My TL1000S tried to kill me...". Suzuki shat themselves and issued a recall to fit a steering damper. The TL1000R was rushed out, the TL1000S killed off. A shame
make sure you have a good critical illness and life insurance, then enjoy your life without worrying about others
tell the missus you have bumped the life policy to £1million if she lets you keep the bike ...that usually works for most people and only costs a couple of tanks of fuel per month for the premium
tell the missus you have bumped the life policy to £1million if she lets you keep the bike ...that usually works for most people and only costs a couple of tanks of fuel per month for the premium
It's got nothing to do with insurance levels (not least as some of you seem not to understand what Critical Illness covers anyway). It's more to do with the fact that it's clear that bikes are now becoming bady manufactured piles of crap and I don't want to die as a result of someone else's mistake.
deltashad said:
Did the TL1000s not have some really bad problem when it was originally launched?
Something to do with the yokes leading on to high speed tank slappers? I did a search but didn't see anything. Don't know why that's stuck in my head...
I had an early (97) TL-S which was a superb bike ridden to the max on many occaisions, and never once did I have a "moment". No idea why, maybe due to my small stature and light weight, but not once until it was brutally stolen from my locked garage did it give me cause for concern. odd.Something to do with the yokes leading on to high speed tank slappers? I did a search but didn't see anything. Don't know why that's stuck in my head...
LoonR1 said:
It's got nothing to do with insurance levels (not least as some of you seem not to understand what Critical Illness covers anyway). It's more to do with the fact that it's clear that bikes are now becoming bady manufactured piles of crap and I don't want to die as a result of someone else's mistake.
They've mostly always been badly-manufactured piles of crap. Ask any professional welder to take a look at a Japanese bike frame, he'll fall about laughing. Monkey-metal castings, chocolate fasteners, piss-poor coatings, ill-assembled electrics. Just as long as they go very fast for the street heroes, that's all that counts.
LoonR1 said:
It's got nothing to do with insurance levels (not least as some of you seem not to understand what Critical Illness covers anyway). It's more to do with the fact that it's clear that bikes are now becoming bady manufactured piles of crap and I don't want to die as a result of someone else's mistake.
Get a classic & restore it, then you get to crash & die due to your own incompetence 
LoonR1 said:
Having read the ongoing threads about the two top end sportsbikes (S1000RR and Panigale), one of which has a recall for a pretty major failure and the other having a high speed weave, like the Pan European a few years back. It's becoming clear that bikes are inherently unsafe.
No matter how I ride or how much care I take, there will always be an underlying manufacturung defect within them. There's been some bad press for all the major makes from fork failures, to frames snapping and so on.
Given that I'm the breadwinner, is it fair for me to jack it in and sell the bikes, as I'm worried I could end up as a statistic in someone else's law suit?
Is this the windup you promised on Thursday in the S1000RR recall thread? No matter how I ride or how much care I take, there will always be an underlying manufacturung defect within them. There's been some bad press for all the major makes from fork failures, to frames snapping and so on.
Given that I'm the breadwinner, is it fair for me to jack it in and sell the bikes, as I'm worried I could end up as a statistic in someone else's law suit?
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