CBTand buying a Desmo
Discussion
http://shop.ducati.com/gb/accessories/clothing-acc...
www.desmos.com/calculator
http://desmo.org/
www.desmo.it/en/
Also, whilst looking for other things called Desmo I found this comment about the ducati scooter that was round a few years back:
"A Ducati scooter. No Desmo. A perfectly good waste of inherently defective electrical everything."
On a serious note, whilst it looks like you may be able to buy, insure and run one, I would suggest not as your first bike. By all means go ahead and get hold of one to keep for a year or so, but get something a little tamer to start with. You will learn allot more, then in 1-2 years ride the desmo. Would you let someone who has just passed there test jump in your 360? Apart from anything else they seem to be a pig to ride at low speed. The only time I have seen one in a 30 limit it sounded like a bag of spanners and looked very heavy on the clutch.
If you still want to go ahead then I suggest talking to a ducati specialist and asking them to look in to it for you. Given the nature of the bikes it is possibly the only way you will find a good one.
www.desmos.com/calculator
http://desmo.org/
www.desmo.it/en/
Also, whilst looking for other things called Desmo I found this comment about the ducati scooter that was round a few years back:
"A Ducati scooter. No Desmo. A perfectly good waste of inherently defective electrical everything."
On a serious note, whilst it looks like you may be able to buy, insure and run one, I would suggest not as your first bike. By all means go ahead and get hold of one to keep for a year or so, but get something a little tamer to start with. You will learn allot more, then in 1-2 years ride the desmo. Would you let someone who has just passed there test jump in your 360? Apart from anything else they seem to be a pig to ride at low speed. The only time I have seen one in a 30 limit it sounded like a bag of spanners and looked very heavy on the clutch.
If you still want to go ahead then I suggest talking to a ducati specialist and asking them to look in to it for you. Given the nature of the bikes it is possibly the only way you will find a good one.
Edited by SteveSteveson on Thursday 7th November 09:50
To answer the OP question -
1) You will require a CBT certifiacte. In the case of the early licences it only means you can ride a moped without a CBT.
2) I can't offer any tips other than the generic bike buying advice - so my advice would be to seek out a Ducati specialist and take them with you. This is assuming you are talking about the Ducati Desmo RR. If it is a chinese bike of some sort (looking at your garage I assume not ) then just any old buyers guide is your best bet.
Get your theory booked and done. The other issue is the DSA restircting the number of tests due to a fall in demand, creatng a bit of a false market and, in my area, schools block booking and cancelling when they are not needed.
I've just done my DAS so if you want any advice / feedback feel free to PM me OP.
1) You will require a CBT certifiacte. In the case of the early licences it only means you can ride a moped without a CBT.
2) I can't offer any tips other than the generic bike buying advice - so my advice would be to seek out a Ducati specialist and take them with you. This is assuming you are talking about the Ducati Desmo RR. If it is a chinese bike of some sort (looking at your garage I assume not ) then just any old buyers guide is your best bet.
Get your theory booked and done. The other issue is the DSA restircting the number of tests due to a fall in demand, creatng a bit of a false market and, in my area, schools block booking and cancelling when they are not needed.
I've just done my DAS so if you want any advice / feedback feel free to PM me OP.
This is laughable.
OP you are destined to be one of those cocks that arrives at cafe meets with an exotic expensive and rare bike with 2 inch chicken strips.
You should be taking whatever training you can get and then riding something lesser for a while, even a short while to get some experience.
OP you are destined to be one of those cocks that arrives at cafe meets with an exotic expensive and rare bike with 2 inch chicken strips.
You should be taking whatever training you can get and then riding something lesser for a while, even a short while to get some experience.
Yazza54 said:
This is laughable.
OP you are destined to be one of those cocks that arrives at cafe meets with an exotic expensive and rare bike with 2 inch chicken strips.
You should be taking whatever training you can get and then riding something lesser for a while, even a short while to get some experience.
Really?OP you are destined to be one of those cocks that arrives at cafe meets with an exotic expensive and rare bike with 2 inch chicken strips.
You should be taking whatever training you can get and then riding something lesser for a while, even a short while to get some experience.
If they chap has money to buy a desmo who gives a s
t about the size of chicken strips.Unbelievable jealousy.
sc0tt said:
Yazza54 said:
This is laughable.
OP you are destined to be one of those cocks that arrives at cafe meets with an exotic expensive and rare bike with 2 inch chicken strips.
You should be taking whatever training you can get and then riding something lesser for a while, even a short while to get some experience.
Really?OP you are destined to be one of those cocks that arrives at cafe meets with an exotic expensive and rare bike with 2 inch chicken strips.
You should be taking whatever training you can get and then riding something lesser for a while, even a short while to get some experience.
If they chap has money to buy a desmo who gives a s
t about the size of chicken strips.Unbelievable jealousy.
But it's blatantly obvious from his OP that he wants the quickest and easiest route to jumping on the most powerful bike he can, even if it means cutting out training.
CBT is worth doing regardless of whether you need to do it by law or not, and owning a handful of fast cars doesn't mean you'll be any good on a bike.
Believe it or not, that's actually good advice.. May not be the answer he wants though.
Every time someone says "I just passed my test and want to buy X powerful car" or "Y Superbike" and people say no, someone always has to say it is down to being jealous. Believe it or not it is possible some people thing you should not just go out and buy the most powerful thing you can afford and that you should take it in steps and are just giving there honest opinion.
SteveSteveson said:
Every time someone says "I just passed my test and want to buy X powerful car" or "Y Superbike" and people say no, someone always has to say it is down to being jealous. Believe it or not it is possible some people thing you should not just go out and buy the most powerful thing you can afford and that you should take it in steps.
I didn't exactly do it in baby steps, a short while on a 400, 600 and now a 1000. There's no doubt that it's the best way to learn. If anything I wish I stayed on the smaller bikes for a while longer, definitely jumping straight onto a 1000 would have been a big mistake. Just passing the advice on...
Take it or leave it I don't really care. But if I was the OP I'd feel daft wobbling round on a desmo with no real experience getting monstered by kids on 400 and 600s who have actually learned how to ride.
I looked at buying a desmo and selling all my bikes just to have it. Purchse price was achievable, but servicing and parts are very very expensive. The killer was insurance as the only insurance company that would cover the bike is ducati insurance, and they wouldnt cover me as ive not had enough experience/ my age.
(Im 29 with 5 years NCB, with a 848 and a 1100s monster fo last 3 years currently paying £450 on them)
(Im 29 with 5 years NCB, with a 848 and a 1100s monster fo last 3 years currently paying £450 on them)
sc0tt said:
Yazza54 said:
This is laughable.
OP you are destined to be one of those cocks that arrives at cafe meets with an exotic expensive and rare bike with 2 inch chicken strips.
You should be taking whatever training you can get and then riding something lesser for a while, even a short while to get some experience.
Really?OP you are destined to be one of those cocks that arrives at cafe meets with an exotic expensive and rare bike with 2 inch chicken strips.
You should be taking whatever training you can get and then riding something lesser for a while, even a short while to get some experience.
If they chap has money to buy a desmo who gives a s
t about the size of chicken strips.Unbelievable jealousy.
But as I'm not in that position, I will continue to be happy with my lot. However, there isn't a bike in my garage that I can't sling around the road or the track with gusto. Is this down to going through the sizes over the years gradually getting used to characteristics that come with the increase in power?? Or am I naturally talented
??I have my own ideas on what I believe to be the best way to start motorcycling, but they are just that, an opinion. It isn't my place to tell the OP what he can and can't have as long as he's got the right paperwork.
It's not jealousy, it's common sense - in the same way that most people could anticipate the outcome if you put, say, a newly-qualified 17 year old car driver in a Maclaren.
Unless you are some sort of undiscovered riding god, you will never come even halfway close to doing justice any time soon to a Desmo on the back of just having completed your CBT. Yes, that's the purchaser's decision, but I'd hazard a couple of points:
- you'd get a LOT more out of the Desmo by learning the basics on something more forgiving to start with. Even if you buy the Duc now and stick it in your Leno-style garage for a while
- you'll either ride it in fear and trepidation and look like a tit, (that may not bother you in the slightest) or you WILL bin it. And you're a little less likely to be able to sit at eBay on a Sunday night trying to snipe a new side panel than you are for a Jap 600. Or even an 848!
Unless you are some sort of undiscovered riding god, you will never come even halfway close to doing justice any time soon to a Desmo on the back of just having completed your CBT. Yes, that's the purchaser's decision, but I'd hazard a couple of points:
- you'd get a LOT more out of the Desmo by learning the basics on something more forgiving to start with. Even if you buy the Duc now and stick it in your Leno-style garage for a while
- you'll either ride it in fear and trepidation and look like a tit, (that may not bother you in the slightest) or you WILL bin it. And you're a little less likely to be able to sit at eBay on a Sunday night trying to snipe a new side panel than you are for a Jap 600. Or even an 848!
counterofbeans said:
Shadow R1 said:
My first bike was a rrv fireblade, o look im not dead. 
With all due respect a fireblade is a nice easy bike to ride, a Desmo isn'tI started with a Ducati Monster for 1 month then sold it and bought a 1100 and got an R1 6 months later.
I learned a lot and I didn't die a death. However that's not the route for everyone.
OP if your serious then just buy it. However I don't think its a suitable road bike for the first time rider.
If you want to ease your self into it, why not try a 848 or the new 849 and buy the Desmo also.
You can gain your experience on the 130/145 bhp sport bikes and then tackle the Desmo as your confidence grows. Then your strips will be vanquished and you can hold your head up... that is if you actually give a damn in the first place.
I learned a lot and I didn't die a death. However that's not the route for everyone.
OP if your serious then just buy it. However I don't think its a suitable road bike for the first time rider.
If you want to ease your self into it, why not try a 848 or the new 849 and buy the Desmo also.
You can gain your experience on the 130/145 bhp sport bikes and then tackle the Desmo as your confidence grows. Then your strips will be vanquished and you can hold your head up... that is if you actually give a damn in the first place.
CAPP0 said:
It's not jealousy, it's common sense - in the same way that most people could anticipate the outcome if you put, say, a newly-qualified 17 year old car driver in a Maclaren.
Unless you are some sort of undiscovered riding god, you will never come even halfway close to doing justice any time soon to a Desmo on the back of just having completed your CBT. Yes, that's the purchaser's decision, but I'd hazard a couple of points:
- you'd get a LOT more out of the Desmo by learning the basics on something more forgiving to start with. Even if you buy the Duc now and stick it in your Leno-style garage for a while
- you'll either ride it in fear and trepidation and look like a tit, (that may not bother you in the slightest) or you WILL bin it. And you're a little less likely to be able to sit at eBay on a Sunday night trying to snipe a new side panel than you are for a Jap 600. Or even an 848!
^^^ This.Unless you are some sort of undiscovered riding god, you will never come even halfway close to doing justice any time soon to a Desmo on the back of just having completed your CBT. Yes, that's the purchaser's decision, but I'd hazard a couple of points:
- you'd get a LOT more out of the Desmo by learning the basics on something more forgiving to start with. Even if you buy the Duc now and stick it in your Leno-style garage for a while
- you'll either ride it in fear and trepidation and look like a tit, (that may not bother you in the slightest) or you WILL bin it. And you're a little less likely to be able to sit at eBay on a Sunday night trying to snipe a new side panel than you are for a Jap 600. Or even an 848!
Even a noob small drop would be a nightmare.
Buyers choice of course, but if you have the money for a desmo, you have the money to run something more disposable alongside it to practice on and crash/drop/track day/bugger about on so you'll get more out of the desmo. A decent 600 is £3.5k
Note that sports Ducatis are not the easiest things to ride well and are not forgiving to noob mess ups. They destroy confidence, rather than build it and take more skill and concentration to get the best out of than a modern Jap bike.
Charlie Foxtrot said:
You know those threads in GG where some young spurt wants Z4M for his first car because he can afford the purchase price? And everyone tells him don't be a div, you'll never get the most out of it and you will crash it, get a fiesta instead.
But hey, congratulations where it's due for having the reddies to buy a Desmo at all.
That was my first thought too but OP has been on here a long time. But hey, congratulations where it's due for having the reddies to buy a Desmo at all.
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