Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsas - Scary in the wet or pussy?
Discussion
Harry H said:
Can't think of a worse tyre for all year round riding. It's a track day tyre that's legal to ride to the track on. Why just why you you stick em on a road bike.
Don't confuse these with the Supercorsas the Rosso corsa is very much a road tyre albeit with a sports / track preference. They warm up pretty quick in normal road riding.All that being said they wouldn't be my first choice for riding in the wet or cold.
trickywoo said:
Harry H said:
Can't think of a worse tyre for all year round riding. It's a track day tyre that's legal to ride to the track on. Why just why you you stick em on a road bike.
Don't confuse these with the Supercorsas the Rosso corsa is very much a road tyre albeit with a sports / track preference. They warm up pretty quick in normal road riding.All that being said they wouldn't be my first choice for riding in the wet or cold.
TommyBuoy said:
They are a track biased road tyre - of course you can ride them in the wet, but you'll likely die ;-)
Rosso II are a decent tyre and still have a soft compound. Rosso III are similar to II, but wear better.
Hmm kinda true in my opinion to a point. Rosso Corsa are not a track tyre but are a fast road dual compound tyre thats pretty crap in the wet --- but not as bad as supercorsa SP which are a joke in cold/wetRosso II are a decent tyre and still have a soft compound. Rosso III are similar to II, but wear better.
Rosso 2 I dont rate too highly. They are a harder compound and last longer but dont give much feedback and again slide about in the wet. I didnt find these really much different to Rosso Corsa for wet sub 8 degrees
Rosso 3 are very good and on par with the M7RR (I think they are essentially the same tyre with different tread patterns) and give great feedback, warm up and cold/wet grip. These are NOTHING like their predecessor the Rosso 2.
You could track any of those tyres upto a point and the Rosso Corsa side walls are the same as Supercorsa SP side walls but harder in the first 2/3rd of the bead and there is less of the soft bit on Rosso Corsa compared to Supercorsa
Sorry long a*se reply there but Im a tyre geek, I go through loads and have always been a pirelli man on track and road
Birky_41 said:
TommyBuoy said:
They are a track biased road tyre - of course you can ride them in the wet, but you'll likely die ;-)
Rosso II are a decent tyre and still have a soft compound. Rosso III are similar to II, but wear better.
Hmm kinda true in my opinion to a point. Rosso Corsa are not a track tyre but are a fast road dual compound tyre thats pretty crap in the wet --- but not as bad as supercorsa SP which are a joke in cold/wetRosso II are a decent tyre and still have a soft compound. Rosso III are similar to II, but wear better.
Rosso 2 I dont rate too highly. They are a harder compound and last longer but dont give much feedback and again slide about in the wet. I didnt find these really much different to Rosso Corsa for wet sub 8 degrees
Rosso 3 are very good and on par with the M7RR (I think they are essentially the same tyre with different tread patterns) and give great feedback, warm up and cold/wet grip. These are NOTHING like their predecessor the Rosso 2.
You could track any of those tyres upto a point and the Rosso Corsa side walls are the same as Supercorsa SP side walls but harder in the first 2/3rd of the bead and there is less of the soft bit on Rosso Corsa compared to Supercorsa
Sorry long a*se reply there but Im a tyre geek, I go through loads and have always been a pirelli man on track and road
Rosso II lasted 2500 miles on the rear. Yet to see how the III's wear, but told they will be better.
Scary. Went out in the lightest drizzle (nothing pilot road 4's can't handle easily) managed a lap okay, and then second lap at Rockingham I've come round the 3/4 succesive lefts and out of nowhere on the last one the front's tucked. No feedback whatsoever. Even if it drizzles, I will not go out on them. I'm sure if you had them on a road bike and had to pootle home you'd be fine keeping it very upright but I'd rather be on a different tyre.
Birky_41 said:
TommyBuoy said:
They are a track biased road tyre - of course you can ride them in the wet, but you'll likely die ;-)
Rosso II are a decent tyre and still have a soft compound. Rosso III are similar to II, but wear better.
Hmm kinda true in my opinion to a point. Rosso Corsa are not a track tyre but are a fast road dual compound tyre thats pretty crap in the wet --- but not as bad as supercorsa SP which are a joke in cold/wetRosso II are a decent tyre and still have a soft compound. Rosso III are similar to II, but wear better.
Rosso 2 I dont rate too highly. They are a harder compound and last longer but dont give much feedback and again slide about in the wet. I didnt find these really much different to Rosso Corsa for wet sub 8 degrees
Rosso 3 are very good and on par with the M7RR (I think they are essentially the same tyre with different tread patterns) and give great feedback, warm up and cold/wet grip. These are NOTHING like their predecessor the Rosso 2.
You could track any of those tyres upto a point and the Rosso Corsa side walls are the same as Supercorsa SP side walls but harder in the first 2/3rd of the bead and there is less of the soft bit on Rosso Corsa compared to Supercorsa
Sorry long a*se reply there but Im a tyre geek, I go through loads and have always been a pirelli man on track and road
Birky_41 said:
Rosso 2 I dont rate too highly. They are a harder compound and last longer but dont give much feedback and again slide about in the wet. I didnt find these really much different to Rosso Corsa for wet sub 8 degrees
Good to know. I have had them in the dry and they are fab but in any wet/damp/cold they are horrible. Glad I'm not the only one.Dakkon said:
As a commuter road tyre what would you recommend, I have Dunlop roadsmart III's which are ok but in the recent cold, salty roads have not inspired confidence.
Have you tried a pilot road 4? I love them personally and find they do everything (same with the older 2/3) I think the 3 was a fairly good all rounder where the 2 was better in the dry and 4 is better in the wet. Dakkon said:
As a commuter road tyre what would you recommend, I have Dunlop roadsmart III's which are ok but in the recent cold, salty roads have not inspired confidence.
Like said above the M7RR or Rosso 3 are meant to be good dry road tyres that due to high silica are good in wet/cold and warm up very fastI dont commute so am probably not the best to advise. My riding is more fast road and track but I tend to try and ride all year round as long as the roads aren't completely soaked (Like the last 2 weeks)
TommyBuoy said:
Rosso II are a decent tyre and still have a soft compound. Rosso III are similar to II, but wear better.
Good to know, I've been using Rosso II and find the grip fine (for my needs) but they do wear rather quickly, especially the rear on the Monster, I'll try the III's next.I used to use the Diablo Corsa all year round but now prefer the Angel GT for all weather commuting. Handles and grips really well, good feedback wet and dry. In the dry it's been phenomenally good fun.
I tried the Michelin Pilot, (2 I think) but never really felt confident with them or their feedback and feel.
I tried the Michelin Pilot, (2 I think) but never really felt confident with them or their feedback and feel.
Glad it's not just me then. Think I'll go see the local guys about getting some PR4s fitted. I use the bike in all weathers, but only just changed bike recently so wondered if it was me and/or the bike. It came with the pirellis and never had them before.
Think I'll keep a hold of them though to stick on if I get the chance of a track day next year. Sounds like they're better for dry hard miles anyway.
Ta
Think I'll keep a hold of them though to stick on if I get the chance of a track day next year. Sounds like they're better for dry hard miles anyway.
Ta
DRCs are a good wet weather track tyre. Did a soaking wet Silverstone TD on DRCs and they were superb. Still my favourite all round fast road tyre, preferable to SuperCorsas (SP or SC1/2) because SCs never get enough heat in them on UK roads to work properly. DRCs do, however, and they work brilliantly.
M7RRs are good, but have a rounder carcass - similar to how Dunlops are shaped. The Rosso3 is inferior to the M7RR.
M7RRs are good, but have a rounder carcass - similar to how Dunlops are shaped. The Rosso3 is inferior to the M7RR.
spareparts said:
DRCs are a good wet weather track tyre. Did a soaking wet Silverstone TD on DRCs and they were superb. Still my favourite all round fast road tyre, preferable to SuperCorsas (SP or SC1/2) because SCs never get enough heat in them on UK roads to work properly. DRCs do, however, and they work brilliantly.
M7RRs are good, but have a rounder carcass - similar to how Dunlops are shaped. The Rosso3 is inferior to the M7RR.
What are DRC's? A mate runs SC's on road and like you said he has to be pushing the pace to keep grip in them which is a bit stupid on the roadM7RRs are good, but have a rounder carcass - similar to how Dunlops are shaped. The Rosso3 is inferior to the M7RR.
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