R1 stolen in broad daylight

R1 stolen in broad daylight

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SDarks

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180 posts

91 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2017/march/thie...

Scary video, london is a no go zone for me on the bike after watching stuff like that.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

162 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Familiar.
Long thread running on these crims and their activities in London.

mckeann

2,986 posts

228 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Disgusting. I really don't know what to suggest, I certainly wouldn't be risking my life to save someone else's bike as these guys are tooled up with angle grinders, but if I happened to be in my car and they happened to get in the way of it, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I think the police need to start doing the same. If you're pushing away a bike with a scooter and don't stop, be prepared to get a tap

sjtscott

4,215 posts

230 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Sadly this isn't news to us who live work and bike in London - there is a long running thread on antics like this here on BB.
A big twist and go scooter is used and a foot can be used to push the unlocked (cut/broken locks) bike along.
I was overtaken by a fast moving big scooter pushing a 2009 R1 with the Alarm wailing the other year. They overtook the stationary traffic queue at the fasted speed they could on the wrong side of the road. Unless you have the cops there at the same time nothing is going to happen.

All I can say is the R1 owner sadly should have expected this to happen given the bike and how much they are worth. You really don't park anything of value/desire on the bike bays in London.
Yes I've had a bike nicked never to return its gutting and basically I more than paid back its value they paid out to me in the next 5 years increased insurance premium costs.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Dominate the motorcycle bay, I think.

All it would take is 4 or 5 passers by to group together to chase them off.


croyde

22,701 posts

229 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Probably being a bit thick here but aren't modern bikes like that fitted with immobilisers?

How do they start them so quickly?

Admittedly they started my Street Triple with a screwdriver. It was the disc lock that stopped em. Fekers.

Answered above.

mckeann

2,986 posts

228 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Dominate the motorcycle bay, I think.

All it would take is 4 or 5 passers by to group together to chase them off.
They have angle grinders. I don't think an angry laser by or 5 is going to win

sjtscott

4,215 posts

230 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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croyde said:
Probably being a bit thick here but aren't modern bikes like that fitted with immobilisers?

How do they start them so quickly?

Admittedly they started my Street Triple with a screwdriver. It was the disc lock that stopped em. Fekers.
Look again they don't start the engines since they all have factory fit immobilisers requiring a coded ignition key.
The bike is pushed along by the big scooter riders foot.. the stolen bike is freewheeled.

My 2011 Speed has a key based immobiliser they won't be starting that without one of the two ignitions keys but they don't do that as I said. I specifically waited until Triumph finally played catchup with these immobilisers having had HISS on last two Hondas before I bought one.


Edited by sjtscott on Friday 17th March 16:40

Biker's Nemesis

38,534 posts

207 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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I know people get called "big man" and such insults for saying what I'm gonna say on the internet but there's no way I would stand there and watch if they were stealing my bike, I would be getting stuck into them, it's easy to find out who they are, if it was happening up here they would be getting their knees, hands and faces smashed the living fk out of.

Grrrrr.

rapide

180 posts

248 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Biker's Nemesis said:
I know people get called "big man" and such insults for saying what I'm gonna say on the internet but there's no way I would stand there and watch if they were stealing my bike, I would be getting stuck into them, it's easy to find out who they are, if it was happening up here they would be getting their knees, hands and faces smashed the living fk out of.

Grrrrr.
I agree. And I genuinely believe bystanders would act differently anywhere but London. I want to say anywhere up north. But I like to think I'm open minded; not all southerners are that soft surely?

ReaderScars

6,087 posts

175 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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There's four of them, all will have some sort of weapon to hand. It's not something to take on lightly if you were by yourself.

However if they are easy to find, it could give an opportunity to even things up a bit.

blade7

11,311 posts

215 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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rapide said:
I agree. And I genuinely believe bystanders would act differently anywhere but London. I want to say anywhere up north. But I like to think I'm open minded; not all southerners are that soft surely?
Would you steam into 4 s with a lot less to lose than you, if they were armed with angle grinders etc and it wasn't your bike ?

Turkish91

1,084 posts

201 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Supposedly there is a place in Poland where you can send a barrel and ECU, and for £200 they'll send you back a set of keys cut to that particular barrel and coded to the ECU. Re-fit to the stolen bike and it's chocks away.

I imagine the scrotes stealing these bikes in London are just selling them as they are for naff all - they shift quicker and are pretty desirable to certain people when they're sub £1k for a nearly new superbike. Bikes "on the key" are always worth a lot more, and re-framed ones worth full price once again.

tight5

2,747 posts

158 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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blade7 said:
rapide said:
I agree. And I genuinely believe bystanders would act differently anywhere but London. I want to say anywhere up north. But I like to think I'm open minded; not all southerners are that soft surely?
Would you steam into 4 s with a lot less to lose than you, if they were armed with angle grinders etc and it wasn't your bike ?
I don't think you know what you'd do until you are in that situation, BUT I like to think I'd at least have a go !
punch

Gavia

7,627 posts

90 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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No way I'd be confronting a bunch of feral scumbags armed with whatever they're carrying, especially as it's someone else's bike. Even if it were my bike, I'd accept the excess hit and move on.

The Met police have a lot of work to do to bring some confidence back to the streets if they're letting this sort of brazen theft carry on unchecked.

I can see why insurance is so high for those living in London though, not sure I'd bother tbh.

creampuff

6,511 posts

142 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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mckeann said:
xjay1337 said:
Dominate the motorcycle bay, I think.

All it would take is 4 or 5 passers by to group together to chase them off.
They have angle grinders. I don't think an angry laser by or 5 is going to win
My first thought if faced with this situation os that if I did anything, it would likely result in arrest (mine) or being prosecuted for assault or something even more serious. It's being prosecuted by the state that I would worry about, notbthe crooks.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

162 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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No way I would confront them. They all have weapons and absolutely no problem with using them. Anyone confronting them is probably going to end up in hospital, or worse.

However, in a warm living room far away from London, I have noticed they keep walking away from their bike. It would be brilliant to run over and take their bike whilst they are distracted by the R1. It would be a huge risk and a stupid thing to do in reality however.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

162 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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I haven't kept up to date with the other thread but is it unusual for there to be 4 of them ?

Biker's Nemesis

38,534 posts

207 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Many may years ago I heard that my Rd 500 was going to be targeted by the local bike thief crew so what did a young BN do, I went to their house on my bike with a mate where there was only one of them in so I invited myself in and waited for the other 2 to turn up. Not a scrap of bother after that.

croyde

22,701 posts

229 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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See in the London news the scooter rider wanted for theft led the police on a high speed chase wrong way on a motorway.

Cars swerving to avoid and he crashed and he broke a leg yet he got on and kept going.

No way I'd be tackling him unless I was in a truck.

These scum don't care if they get banged up or not.