Michelin Power RS
Discussion
Ho Lee Kau said:
That low, really? How long do your tires last?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Yep run it cold pressure and you'll be fine. Thats what I am running with outside temps of 10+ degrees. I think winter Id run more, especially the rearhttps://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I cant comment on longevity yet. Ive done approx 1100 miles on the rear, a few silly rolling burn outs when Im having a childish moment and they seem about half worn. Im going germany in 3 days and will cover another 1000 miles so can give a better opinion then
anonymous said:
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My experience has been on a 1198s -Michelin PR4's - took them off, felt leaden, so no idea of mileage.
Pirelli SC SP's - 1800miles of loveliness on and off track.
Pirelli DRC's - 2800 of just less than lovely in the warm and tracktime.
Metzeler Racetec RR K3 - Fave so far, 2500 of Nurburgring, riding Europe, bits of winter.
AdamLoewy said:
My experience has been on a 1198s -
Michelin PR4's - took them off, felt leaden, so no idea of mileage.
Pirelli SC SP's - 1800miles of loveliness on and off track.
Pirelli DRC's - 2800 of just less than lovely in the warm and tracktime.
Metzeler Racetec RR K3 - Fave so far, 2500 of Nurburgring, riding Europe, bits of winter.
Interesting regarding the RR K3's...Michelin PR4's - took them off, felt leaden, so no idea of mileage.
Pirelli SC SP's - 1800miles of loveliness on and off track.
Pirelli DRC's - 2800 of just less than lovely in the warm and tracktime.
Metzeler Racetec RR K3 - Fave so far, 2500 of Nurburgring, riding Europe, bits of winter.
I'm 1100 miles into a pair and i'm doing a Euro trip in June and was about to change as i thought they'd maybe not last.
Worth sticking to them?
Jazoli said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
That low, really? How long do your tires last?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
why are you constantly quoting your own post? if people want to comment they will, its annoying when the last six posts on a thread are yours.https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I see that I annoy you, you made it quite obvious before, I don't really care, but you could just scroll through OR answer in my thread, simples.
Birky_41 said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
That low, really? How long do your tires last?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Yep run it cold pressure and you'll be fine. Thats what I am running with outside temps of 10+ degrees. I think winter Id run more, especially the rearhttps://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I cant comment on longevity yet. Ive done approx 1100 miles on the rear, a few silly rolling burn outs when Im having a childish moment and they seem about half worn. Im going germany in 3 days and will cover another 1000 miles so can give a better opinion then
AdamLoewy said:
anonymous said:
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My experience has been on a 1198s -Michelin PR4's - took them off, felt leaden, so no idea of mileage.
Pirelli SC SP's - 1800miles of loveliness on and off track.
Pirelli DRC's - 2800 of just less than lovely in the warm and tracktime.
Metzeler Racetec RR K3 - Fave so far, 2500 of Nurburgring, riding Europe, bits of winter.
I want to see how fast the K3 wears, allegedly they last longer than SC.
Personally I loved both the SC's and K3's on track, felt super planted when cranked over and found the tipping in natural.
Both feel a little wooden if the ambient is less than 10degrees and then K3's definitely hold up better to any motorway mileage than the SC's.
The K3's are the first tyre that the shoulders have worn before the center, which does include a trip to the 'Ring with a lot of upright mileage getting there.
Both feel a little wooden if the ambient is less than 10degrees and then K3's definitely hold up better to any motorway mileage than the SC's.
The K3's are the first tyre that the shoulders have worn before the center, which does include a trip to the 'Ring with a lot of upright mileage getting there.
AdamLoewy said:
My experience has been on a 1198s -
Michelin PR4's - took them off, felt leaden, so no idea of mileage.
Pirelli SC SP's - 1800miles of loveliness on and off track.
Pirelli DRC's - 2800 of just less than lovely in the warm and tracktime.
Metzeler Racetec RR K3 - Fave so far, 2500 of Nurburgring, riding Europe, bits of winter.
Just a general question - you don't seem to have tried any tyres between a full on sports touring tyre and a full on trackday tyre?Michelin PR4's - took them off, felt leaden, so no idea of mileage.
Pirelli SC SP's - 1800miles of loveliness on and off track.
Pirelli DRC's - 2800 of just less than lovely in the warm and tracktime.
Metzeler Racetec RR K3 - Fave so far, 2500 of Nurburgring, riding Europe, bits of winter.
Any reason why not - folks on here rave about M7RRs which unless I'm mistaken are more of a road oriented sports tyre.
Most out of character tyres I've had prefitted to a bike I've bought were now replaced Bridgestone 020 touring on the R6 I bought 2nd hand - they had been fully scrubbed in with a track day prior to me purchasing them
sjtscott said:
Just a general question - you don't seem to have tried any tyres between a full on sports touring tyre and a full on trackday tyre?
Any reason why not - folks on here rave about M7RRs which unless I'm mistaken are more of a road oriented sports tyre.
Most out of character tyres I've had prefitted to a bike I've bought were now replaced Bridgestone 020 touring on the R6 I bought 2nd hand - they had been fully scrubbed in with a track day prior to me purchasing them
The Pirelli DRC's fall into the road oriented sports tyre that you specify. Additionally on my previous S1KRR, I tried Michelin PP3's and Power Pure's.Any reason why not - folks on here rave about M7RRs which unless I'm mistaken are more of a road oriented sports tyre.
Most out of character tyres I've had prefitted to a bike I've bought were now replaced Bridgestone 020 touring on the R6 I bought 2nd hand - they had been fully scrubbed in with a track day prior to me purchasing them
Power Pure's wore out pretty quickly and I didn't get on at all with the PP3's.
I've ridden the M7RR's on a K1300's so not a fair judgement.
I started the thread originally as I want the unicorn tyre (mileage as a touring tire with grip, feedback, profile of a track orientated tyre) and wanted to see if others had found the Power RS to be that tyre.
Update:
Had a set fitted by FWR on Friday then spent a long weekend of riding in Wales which encompassed motorway, fast A & B roads, Evo Triangle and a range of temperatures from 10 degrees to 23ish.
Overall I'm impressed, they took every situation in their stride and gave good feedback, nice natural turn-in and warmed up quickly. I obviously wasn't "pushing the envelope" but found that they had plenty of grip when pressing on a bit, even in colder temperatures.
They feel a world apart from the older generation Michelin's (Pilot Power 3's and Power Pure's) I've tried. I feel that they offer similar performance to DRC's but with better behaviour in cooler temps. No idea on longevity yet.
I'll update again once I've tried them on track.
Had a set fitted by FWR on Friday then spent a long weekend of riding in Wales which encompassed motorway, fast A & B roads, Evo Triangle and a range of temperatures from 10 degrees to 23ish.
Overall I'm impressed, they took every situation in their stride and gave good feedback, nice natural turn-in and warmed up quickly. I obviously wasn't "pushing the envelope" but found that they had plenty of grip when pressing on a bit, even in colder temperatures.
They feel a world apart from the older generation Michelin's (Pilot Power 3's and Power Pure's) I've tried. I feel that they offer similar performance to DRC's but with better behaviour in cooler temps. No idea on longevity yet.
I'll update again once I've tried them on track.
I'm up to 2,100 miles so far and a freezing cold, wet track day on them.
The more I ride on them... the more I like them. But I'm pretty certain the mileage I get from them will be quite a bit less than the DR3's I had previously I suspect due to the softer compound of the tyres. They seem to be retaining their shape pretty well at present running 35:35 psi.
The more I ride on them... the more I like them. But I'm pretty certain the mileage I get from them will be quite a bit less than the DR3's I had previously I suspect due to the softer compound of the tyres. They seem to be retaining their shape pretty well at present running 35:35 psi.
Finally got around to fitting these today due to general lack of mileage this year on the Duc. Initial observations are that the bump absorption over bumps and even catseyes is really good. They feel quicker turning than M7RRs, but slower than DRCs. Very unlike Michelins of past. One thing, though, is their tread pattern does not inspire confidence although Bob@FWR said they offer better wet+dry grip than even the M7RR which is saying something... These are my first Michelin tyres since the PPower3s from 4 years ago - I thought those were too pointy in profile, went off too soon in hot conditions, and were kind of weird with a very soft outer compound over a very stiff carcass. Let's see how these new RS go as they feel like a new step for Michelin.
Should probably add my 2p having done a day at Brands and a day at Cadwell on them. I found them to be a good tyre, warmed up quickly and had decent feedback. Turned in nicely. Wear rate looks fairly good for two days at the track, can see them lasting quite a while. Would be interested to try a set on my road bike.
I should probably update how I got on with these at the track after the Michelin day at Brands Hatch GP.
They held up well for a road-biased tyre and were good fun. I'd say their strength is under braking, gives tons of confidence whilst there weakness is outright grip compared to the track biased tyres. No surprises really.
I enjoyed them until upping the pace a bit where I found they started to slide a far bit underpower. I'm not a good enough rider to be comfortable with that, so it did knock my confidence in them.
I gradually dropped the pressures throughout the day ending at 22psi in the rear but still suffered with overheating.
Here are how they looked by the end of the day
A good tyre that's restored my faith in Michelin but I'll be putting Racetec K3's back on next time as I prefer a tyre with better edge grip
They held up well for a road-biased tyre and were good fun. I'd say their strength is under braking, gives tons of confidence whilst there weakness is outright grip compared to the track biased tyres. No surprises really.
I enjoyed them until upping the pace a bit where I found they started to slide a far bit underpower. I'm not a good enough rider to be comfortable with that, so it did knock my confidence in them.
I gradually dropped the pressures throughout the day ending at 22psi in the rear but still suffered with overheating.
Here are how they looked by the end of the day
A good tyre that's restored my faith in Michelin but I'll be putting Racetec K3's back on next time as I prefer a tyre with better edge grip
Edited by AdamLoewy on Wednesday 23 August 11:57
AdamLoewy said:
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A good tyre that's restored my faith in Michelin but I'll be putting Racetec K3's back on next time as I prefer a tyre with better edge grip
I must admit that the edge of that tyre doesn't look like it's been worked particularly hard, and the tyre looks like it has borderline cold tear - ie, your pressures are too high. I would drop 1-2lbs in pressure and either use tyre warmers or build up heat a bit more gradually into the carcass before laying it over. You'll get better grip that way - especially when leant over.A good tyre that's restored my faith in Michelin but I'll be putting Racetec K3's back on next time as I prefer a tyre with better edge grip
Edited by AdamLoewy on Wednesday 23 August 11:57
I was down at 22psi in the rear, so perhaps waiting longer for more heat to spread throughout the carcass. Tyre warmers for a road-biased tyre feels like overkill.
The edges had an easy time as they didn't give me much confidence, so I kept the bike more upright than usual.
Good overall range of performance though, worked well at 10c in Wales and were good for a 30c trackday.
The edges had an easy time as they didn't give me much confidence, so I kept the bike more upright than usual.
Good overall range of performance though, worked well at 10c in Wales and were good for a 30c trackday.
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