Datatool S4 C1 red issues

Datatool S4 C1 red issues

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AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Hi all,

Had a Datatool s4 c1 red on my Kawasaki since new (2007)

come out to it today to start it up with a view to going out on it for the first time for a while, pressed the button on remote to disarm the alarm and nothing. Turned the ignition on thinking the whole bike was dead and the alarm started going off but cant disable via remote.

the remote light flashes when I press the button, dug out my spare remote which was totally dead, so switched the batterys so the spare remote has the working battery but still nothing.

so now I'm thinking its the actual alarm that is having the issues, anybody had this before? cant do anything with the bike until I can disarm it as its stupidly loud.

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Would try a new battery in the fob before doing anything else.

wilbo83

1,535 posts

165 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Had very similar issues on mine. You may not be aware but there is a huge product recall on the S4 Red alarm. Get in touch with Datatool via their facebook page or direct on the website. You can check if your serial number is affected on the site. If it is, they will replace the unit with a mobile fitter free of charge. The issue is apparently due to corrosion and leads to problems like you are experiencing.

https://www.datatool.co.uk/safetyrecalls4/

Jetblackonetenth

690 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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It seems the faulty units were made, according to their web site
2013 – week 13 to 50
2014 – all alarms applicable, week 01 to 51
2015 – all alarms applicable, week 01 to 51
2016 – week 01 to 08
so 2007 may be a bit early
still worth contacting them

AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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I had seen that but yeh mine was from 2007 so unlikely. bikes only done 2900k since 2007 and has been dry stored all the time so the unit itself is spotlessly clean.

Will try 2x new batterys.

I have emailed there customer services as well.

AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Datatool customer service response "we dont know whats up with it"

really helpful.

CoolHands

18,630 posts

195 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Alarms are pretty st, that's why no one uses them

trickywoo

11,788 posts

230 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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Sounds like the unit in the bike and the fobs have forgotten each other due to lack of power.

I'd imagine you'll need to reprogram the fobs and there should be an online guide to do this but if you don't have any paperwork you may be missing a vital override code.

It wouldn't be the end of the world to take the system out. I doubt it would stop a theft and as you have found they are always a PIA at some point.

Edited by trickywoo on Tuesday 25th April 08:47

AJB88

Original Poster:

12,404 posts

171 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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I will dig out all the documentation I have for it see if I can work out the override code.

podman

8,861 posts

240 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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From my experience, quite often the problem can be with the installation rather than the alarm, so check the connections as it goes into the loom carefully too.

If it was mine, id rip it out, older alarms can be a PITA and with the bike being 10 years old, you probably dont need it now for insurance purposes?

AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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Turns out the battery was knackered again. Only replaced it 2 years ago and its been sitting on a trickle charger. I think the OH has unplugged it at som epoint and then plugged it back in a few weeks later.

new battery fitted and away it goes no issues at all.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Result smile

I had an S4 C1 on my old striple R and to be honest I never had any issues. As someone else said I think the issues are generally down to poor installation.

AJB88

Original Poster:

12,404 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Result smile

I had an S4 C1 on my old striple R and to be honest I never had any issues. As someone else said I think the issues are generally down to poor installation.
Was installed brand new by DK Motorcycles in 2007 apart from the fact the battery drains very quickly its worked well.

On a side note my car is above yours in the new V.W.G magazine wink

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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AJB88 said:
Was installed brand new by DK Motorcycles in 2007 apart from the fact the battery drains very quickly its worked well.

On a side note my car is above yours in the new V.W.G magazine wink
I found 2-3 weeks on a new battery without trickle charger and it wouldn't start! More excuse to use it more I suppose smile

Just had a flick through! Awesome Leon smile

AJB88

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12,404 posts

171 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Haha don't think mine would last 2 weeks even with a new battery. Yeh went out on it last night for first time in 2017.

Birky_41

4,289 posts

184 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Best thing I learnt with bike alarms having had about 5 datatool or meta...get rid of them

Poxy things cause my grief than its worth over time

Fit a gps unit to it, if you are keeping to a budget for less than £50 you can get one that runs off Google maps and is very accurate plus can text or call you

If you have the money or ride in crap areas right now like London where you leave the bike then the better ones with a yearly or monthly subscription can literally get your bike back to you with the help of the police and company

A decent chain, disc lock and being savvy with where you keep it etc is all I do. A decent thief is gonna nick it, a chain just slows them down. Gps will find them but an alarm is just a nuisance in my opinion