Why do bikers rev the nuts off bikes to show displeasure ?

[sjtscott]

Ho Lee Kau said:

sjtscott said:

Bikesalot said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

simply because filtering is not allowed.

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Wednesday 17th May 11:50

Filtering is legal in the UK (making a guess you're in the UK?!), as long as it's done with due care and attention

No he's from Switzerland, filtering like germany is illegal - they hate motorcyclists even more in Switzerland for my personal experience riding there then the UK - that takes some doing.

However I was applying UK logic to my riding not knowing otherwise lol I've never got soo much grief off drivers in the towns/cities as I've done there while bike touring. Even had a driver directly swerve at me on the motorway on purpose (doing zero wrong) and not in the pathetic UK method of trying to intimidate you.
I hate the bloody place - on their bad books too with my last bike getting a nice 300 Swiss Franc fine on the spot from the police for applying some london style rule bending that wouldn't even get noticed in the UK. I might have overtaken in a tunnel perfectly safely I'll add.
Switzerland is a beautiful country with fantastic roads but I'll only use it to pass through to another country now if riding due to the whole anti bike stuff I encountered.
I'll still refuse to be fleeced out of a motorway vignette though to this day! LOL

It's not THAT bad here! I have mostly positive experience, few car drivers are wonkas. Ok, sometimes you get these...dudes, who drive their wide lambos, BMWs and GolfRs real fast around blind narrow mountain corners (we have lots of cyclists here, so these car fellows also go into oncoming lane at speed right around corners), but that seldom happens.

Then you have all these German and Italian tourists in cars who insist on driving real slow, as below allowed, say 45kmh on 60kmh up/down an alpine road and collect long queues behind them, I guess they are afraid of fines and road police. Fines are sizeable. No vignette and they check - kiss 200CHF goodbye! :-)

Personally I do not mind vignette, what I mind are 5-kilometer long queues in front of Gotthard Tunnel already 8am, such that all these Sunday slow tourists go over the pass and you get stuck in huge and very slow queues! Last year I couldn't get up that pass all summer because of these tourists, only in September I got my deliverance. So they can pay 40 bux for passing through this picturesque country. Besides, you go through France you pay more in road tolls.

Be careful in tunnels, police likes to put speed cameras inside them (in dark spots) and right after them when you come out blinded by the sun. :-)

Be careful around nondescript, usually gray or white, 5-series BMW station wagons, police likes to use them to catch you speeding (I had the pleasure of the experience). Gray 5-series with 2 dudes inside - be on your toes.
Once I asked a butch policeman if his gun has real or rubber bullets in it, I thought he would shoot me right there. :-)
Once I went up a mountain, turned around on the top and went back down, I turned around 150m away from a police control, they saw me and went after me with lights blazing. I stopped at the bottom and they asked me why I turned around on the top. :-)

I've been flashed by a camera hidden in a nondescript small van.
I've been flashed by a camera standing in the second floor window of a house.
I've been flashed by a hand held camera by a policeman hanging from a tree(!) when I was coming down a steep hill and speed limit changed to 50kmh (100 meters down the road was a police cordon with several cars, Grüezi wohl, do you know why we stopped you?).
I've been photographed by a Hero5 and sent a bill and long legal letter by a property firm because I ride in a wrong place, you do not pay you get more bills.
I've been fined for parking my car on side road after coming from Paris at 3am once, the parking ticket was issued at 3.30am! :-)

Swiss love to take your money. :-)

But the roads are great, the "vistas" as Henry Cole likes to say, are magnificent. Can't wait for passes to open after winter!

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Thursday 18th May 06:43

Swiss police whilst polite have a complete sense of humour bypass.. e30 touring pimped up slammed tints in grey was in fact an undercover unmarked cop car. A safe overtake only cost myself and 2 mates that 300 francs i said earlier, officer said dangerous would be 900 each. Documents confiscated made to follow them to nearest ATM and watched as each of us passed them the deposit. Had to call the local judge on the weekend to decide what to do with us... Great experience lol

Only thing we could do was be in our best behaviour each and every time since.. refusing to purchase the vignette on principle but using the motorway to pass through as quickly as possible (at the speed limit) then and subsequent times. Will spend minimal to preferably no money in Switzerland now and forever.. have toured all over multiple times before so don't need to do it again sadly.

[IAN1967]

I dont understand the bikers who do this, or stare out the driver as they go past, see it quite a few times on my commute.

Although I do confess to doing the same back in my youth, lane on the A40 in Acton blocked by a Porsche driver nattering on his phone, so I sat alongside him revving away with my FZR600 with a "not for road use" Micron can

[optimate]

I ride harley the horn sounds like something off a kids tricycle, never got round to changing it
as considering the noise, the pipes make it far easier and less embarrassing to just blip the throttle a bit.
if there not looking to get there attention

Its a wast of time blip`ing it and making a noise if they already done something to nearly kill you. IF its a genuine mistake not looking stupidity best let it go move on. Its not worth the bother

If there a total that's done it deliberately. Ill drag em out there window for some re education

Edited by optimate on Thursday 18th May 10:01

[Birky_41]

If you ever get an angry car driver going through town at 30mph that has annoyed you due to their inability to drive in a manor you see fit then simply go in front of them and proceed with a very long, smokey and tyre rubber flicking rolling burn out (of course while bouncing off the limiter as that adds to the effect).

This will not only make you feel like a hero and everyone walking down the street feel the same plus notice the extremely fashionable bike you a probably riding but it was also tell that do gooder/naughty/hooligan car driver that they shall never cross paths with 'a biker' again

Or they might floor it and spit you off your bike...but its worth a punt

[naetype]

Ho Lee Kau said:

I hope you learned your lesson. Next time you try to run someone off the road it will not be a kind and restrained man like I.

Is this irony on top of irony?

It's all get a little confusing now...

[Renn Sport]

Ho Lee Kau said:

moanthebairns said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

I do get a bit upset when busterds try to cut me off on purpose.
Last time I was going behind an Octavia for 10 minutes in the right lane in the city traffic, then I switched to the left lane and was about to pass the dude as he decided to switch into left lane right in front of me, I braked and he saw me because he twitched back into his lane, so I try to pass him again and the tosser starts to switch right into me! I had to accelerate to pass, then we stopped at red light next to each other, I look at the guy, he looks at me and freaking smirks!
I hit his mirror with my right fist, not enough to brake the mirror, but enough to erase the dumbass smirk off his dumbass face.

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Wednesday 17th May 11:50

So there i was out in the taxi, Radio 2 on, a wee bit Ken Bruce and some on a bike is zig zagging between lanes. He's the kinda guy who's a grown adult but still calls people dude or man, without being horrified that your no longer 16 and stoned. He tried to pass me, but this was a problem as he was st and my taxi is the fast one. We meet at the traffic lights and glare at each other like long lost lovers.
He then proceeds to hit my drivers mirror. He must have knew that VW heated mirrors are st and that side is temperamental without a tap. Thank you kind Sir.

I hope you learned your lesson. Next time you try to run someone off the road it will not be a kind and restrained man like I.

HLH... you should have just kicked ass dude!

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

Bikesalot said:

I followed a guy this morning down the motorway that insisted on revving and shaking his head at anyone that didn't move the extra 1mm over for him - he was on a gsxr, I was on a GS (I know...!) and I had more than enough room to filter through.

He proceeded to give it the beans at every clear bit of road and then hammer on the anchors when any form of filtering was needed meaning I was catching him up every time...que the revving and shaking his head at everyone again.

It's a wide dual carriage/motorway with very wide lanes, anyway a swift pass made for a much happier commute without having to listen to him get all irate for no reason.

I followed someone acting exactly this way this morning.
I actually felt quite embarrassed by his behavior and wished I has a sticker saying "Don't worry - we're not all complete knob ends like the bloke in front"
It must be the same for BMW and Audi drivers with everyone thinking you're a knob because of the behavior of a few.

His filtering was terrible - revving his engine and 'giving da eevalls' to anyone who dared to not predict his arrival and make room. I was quite glad when the lights went red and he jumped them never to be seen again.

[Ho Lee Kau]

moto_traxport said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

It's not THAT bad here! I have mostly positive experience, few car drivers are wonkas. Ok, sometimes you get these...dudes, who drive their wide lambos, BMWs and GolfRs real fast around blind narrow mountain corners (we have lots of cyclists here, so these car fellows also go into oncoming lane at speed right around corners), but that seldom happens.

Then you have all these German and Italian tourists in cars who insist on driving real slow, as below allowed, say 45kmh on 60kmh up/down an alpine road and collect long queues behind them, I guess they are afraid of fines and road police. Fines are sizeable. No vignette and they check - kiss 200CHF goodbye! :-)

Personally I do not mind vignette, what I mind are 5-kilometer long queues in front of Gotthard Tunnel already 8am, such that all these Sunday slow tourists go over the pass and you get stuck in huge and very slow queues! Last year I couldn't get up that pass all summer because of these tourists, only in September I got my deliverance. So they can pay 40 bux for passing through this picturesque country. Besides, you go through France you pay more in road tolls.

Be careful in tunnels, police likes to put speed cameras inside them (in dark spots) and right after them when you come out blinded by the sun. :-)

Be careful around nondescript, usually gray or white, 5-series BMW station wagons, police likes to use them to catch you speeding (I had the pleasure of the experience). Gray 5-series with 2 dudes inside - be on your toes.
Once I asked a butch policeman if his gun has real or rubber bullets in it, I thought he would shoot me right there. :-)
Once I went up a mountain, turned around on the top and went back down, I turned around 150m away from a police control, they saw me and went after me with lights blazing. I stopped at the bottom and they asked me why I turned around on the top. :-)

I've been flashed by a camera hidden in a nondescript small van.
I've been flashed by a camera standing in the second floor window of a house.
I've been flashed by a hand held camera by a policeman hanging from a tree(!) when I was coming down a steep hill and speed limit changed to 50kmh (100 meters down the road was a police cordon with several cars, Grüezi wohl, do you know why we stopped you?).
I've been photographed by a Hero5 and sent a bill and long legal letter by a property firm because I ride in a wrong place, you do not pay you get more bills.
I've been fined for parking my car on side road after coming from Paris at 3am once, the parking ticket was issued at 3.30am! :-)

Swiss love to take your money. :-)

But the roads are great, the "vistas" as Henry Cole likes to say, are magnificent. Can't wait for passes to open after winter!

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Thursday 18th May 06:43

Short version is Switzerland has lovely scenery but full of miserable folk who would rather be in their cellars counting their money or polishing their guns - go absolutely anywhere else but there.

Not THAT bad, but yes, there is a lot of envy and desire to forbid things like for example: "oh, all these supercar drivers, they make so much noise, let's forbid them!" (even though you see one loud Lambo every 3 months or so, and the rest of supercars are quite quiet at normal speeds). Though I guess this weird behaviour applies in ALL countries. Swiss sometimes surprise me, yes, there is a lot of very rich people here, but even those who are not rich are not really poor either, the quality of life is high, those who complain and are envious imho just have it too good, they haven't seen life in poor countries, even in Eastern Europe, I have.

As far as guns are concerned, yes, there are lots of them here, but almost no shootings. Guns are kept at home as per country military law. I do not see why this is bad. I have an acquaintance, a black guy, former police, he has 3 guns at home (he shoots on the range for fun sometimes, is part of a club, and clubs are difficult to get into for non-swiss like I), a Desert Eagle .50 for example. These are nice to scare off boyfriends of his daughter, once he was cleaning all three in his kitchen when the daughter and the boyfriend came home. I am sure that boyfriend will think twice before attempting something ungentlemanly :-D

Also, whoever I ask, either were or still are motorbikers!

And on the streets the behaviour is very polite most of the time, like I said.

So, no, it's not that bad here. Yes, the law works and works hard, fines are high, cameras are around, but that's good, keeps idiots at bay!
And quality of life is very high here. OK, it's not as exciting as in London or another big city, but if you like nature and clearly defined seasons, skiing, hiking, cycling and biking then Switzerland has lots to offer. Property is ridiculously expensive here (in important areas) but one can make money here.

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Monday 22 May 20:49

[Ho Lee Kau]

Renn Sport said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

moanthebairns said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

I do get a bit upset when busterds try to cut me off on purpose.
Last time I was going behind an Octavia for 10 minutes in the right lane in the city traffic, then I switched to the left lane and was about to pass the dude as he decided to switch into left lane right in front of me, I braked and he saw me because he twitched back into his lane, so I try to pass him again and the tosser starts to switch right into me! I had to accelerate to pass, then we stopped at red light next to each other, I look at the guy, he looks at me and freaking smirks!
I hit his mirror with my right fist, not enough to brake the mirror, but enough to erase the dumbass smirk off his dumbass face.

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Wednesday 17th May 11:50

So there i was out in the taxi, Radio 2 on, a wee bit Ken Bruce and some on a bike is zig zagging between lanes. He's the kinda guy who's a grown adult but still calls people dude or man, without being horrified that your no longer 16 and stoned. He tried to pass me, but this was a problem as he was st and my taxi is the fast one. We meet at the traffic lights and glare at each other like long lost lovers.
He then proceeds to hit my drivers mirror. He must have knew that VW heated mirrors are st and that side is temperamental without a tap. Thank you kind Sir.

I hope you learned your lesson. Next time you try to run someone off the road it will not be a kind and restrained man like I.

HLH... you should have just kicked ass dude!

I am not that brainless, I do not want to end up tens of thousands of CHF lighter, lose licence and probably spend some time in the slammer. It may have been childish, but when the guy deliberately tried to make me crash or whatever his move ment to achieve my blood was boiling.

[bigralphie]

Practising for tunnels ?

[moanthebairns]

Ho Lee Kau said:

Renn Sport said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

moanthebairns said:

Ho Lee Kau said:

I do get a bit upset when busterds try to cut me off on purpose.
Last time I was going behind an Octavia for 10 minutes in the right lane in the city traffic, then I switched to the left lane and was about to pass the dude as he decided to switch into left lane right in front of me, I braked and he saw me because he twitched back into his lane, so I try to pass him again and the tosser starts to switch right into me! I had to accelerate to pass, then we stopped at red light next to each other, I look at the guy, he looks at me and freaking smirks!
I hit his mirror with my right fist, not enough to brake the mirror, but enough to erase the dumbass smirk off his dumbass face.

Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Wednesday 17th May 11:50

So there i was out in the taxi, Radio 2 on, a wee bit Ken Bruce and some on a bike is zig zagging between lanes. He's the kinda guy who's a grown adult but still calls people dude or man, without being horrified that your no longer 16 and stoned. He tried to pass me, but this was a problem as he was st and my taxi is the fast one. We meet at the traffic lights and glare at each other like long lost lovers.
He then proceeds to hit my drivers mirror. He must have knew that VW heated mirrors are st and that side is temperamental without a tap. Thank you kind Sir.

I hope you learned your lesson. Next time you try to run someone off the road it will not be a kind and restrained man like I.

HLH... you should have just kicked ass dude!

I am not that brainless, I do not want to end up tens of thousands of CHF lighter, lose licence and probably spend some time in the slammer. It may have been childish, but when the guy deliberately tried to make me crash or whatever his move ment to achieve my blood was boiling.

Right, this is a piss take, his engerlish is worse than mines. Who is this character.... Its loon isn't it.

[xjay1337]

Stop.

Quoting.

fking.

Pictures.

[Berz]

xjay1337 said:

Stop.

Quoting.

fking.

Pictures.

Sorry

[308mate]

jjr1 said:

An example in first 30secs of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMEDbrED5bc&t=...

st video full of self important st riders basically looking for click bait. One guy berates a van driver for not indicating but is quite happy to then stop in the middle of a dual carriageway to make his point.
Another complains to an inconsiderate truck driver by over taking towards an on coming car. Coffee beans to the lot of them. tts.

[tom_e]

I blip the throttle when someone is trying to move on top of me, it works well and doesn't get the angry reaction many people seem to have to being beeped.

I find a quick blip gets a reaction of "Oh sh!t have I just run over him!? Oh no I haven't" and a little sheepish sorry wave. Horn beeping seems to get a reaction of "WHY THE fk IS THIS TWONK BEEPING ME I'M A DRIVING GOD!!!11!!1!"

[nervous]

I find the early morning revving at track days particularly confusing/ cringey, most especially when it's twinned with the faux hunched over dashboard gaze, as if the bike is live streaming some feed of vital data.

If you're trying to warm a bike up, most especially sympathetically and comprehensively, allowing it to create a mean temperature is much more useful. It's not like you need to warm the rev counter up. Turn it on, leave it running.

But I suppose, it's not just about warming the bike up, really. It's about showing off a bit, and I do get that.

[bennyboysvuk]

Berz said:

Sorry

To be fair, I thought that fking picture was pretty mild considering the alternatives.

[moanthebairns]

nervous said:

I find the early morning revving at track days particularly confusing/ cringey, most especially when it's twinned with the faux hunched over dashboard gaze, as if the bike is live streaming some feed of vital data.

If you're trying to warm a bike up, most especially sympathetically and comprehensively, allowing it to create a mean temperature is much more useful. It's not like you need to warm the rev counter up. Turn it on, leave it running.

But I suppose, it's not just about warming the bike up, really. It's about showing off a bit, and I do get that.

I can understand if it has a set of jump leads hanging off it as some bikes don't charge the battery on tick over apparently.

But this is never the case and a huge pet hate.

[nervous]

moanthebairns said:

I can understand if it has a set of jump leads hanging off it as some bikes don't charge the battery on tick over apparently.

But this is never the case and a huge pet hate.

Exactly. It's bonkers.

[fergus]

moanthebairns said:

nervous said:

I find the early morning revving at track days particularly confusing/ cringey, most especially when it's twinned with the faux hunched over dashboard gaze, as if the bike is live streaming some feed of vital data.

If you're trying to warm a bike up, most especially sympathetically and comprehensively, allowing it to create a mean temperature is much more useful. It's not like you need to warm the rev counter up. Turn it on, leave it running.

But I suppose, it's not just about warming the bike up, really. It's about showing off a bit, and I do get that.

I can understand if it has a set of jump leads hanging off it as some bikes don't charge the battery on tick over apparently.

But this is never the case and a huge pet hate.

Most alternators don't start generating output until the engine is doing around 2k revs. Once the engine has done this once, the alternator will charge at idle. Some have an 'exciter' circuit to start the alternator generating current at lower revs.

The other old chestnut is when the bike perhaps isn't running properly. The cure? Rev the nuts off the bike when under no load in the pits - that will obviously lead the highly unskilled "mechanic" looking at the problem to the source of the issue