5 bike thefts overnight in Acid attacks.
Discussion
The media have caused this.. they report on acid attacks, the dumb f**ks think oh yer I can use it t(h)ief stuff init, no chance of being caught I can get what I want in life for free.
The article is so poorly written - it should clearly read: use of acid to steal mopeds/scooters.
This is connected to the ongoing story of high levels of stolen bikes/scooters in London.
Will something be done? Of course it won't.
The article is so poorly written - it should clearly read: use of acid to steal mopeds/scooters.
This is connected to the ongoing story of high levels of stolen bikes/scooters in London.
Will something be done? Of course it won't.
Utterly worthless vermin, really does make one think our penal system doesn't have an adequate punishment available.
I still don't understand why the suspects safety is even considered when deciding whether to pursue, surely by running from the police you should waive that right? I watched a police documentary the other day about phone snatching thieves, they got in pursuit of a pair on a moped, one of them removed his helmet so they immediately broke off pursuit and let them go, absolute madness. Then there was a case of a thief being pursued who crashed and died, the officers were taken off duty and potentially facing prosecution when they should have been given a pat on the back and told to go out and keep up the good work, one down, several thousand more to go.
When it's a car driving like a total maniac and there is a decent chance of a member of the public being killed that's different but bike thieves being killed is a good result for everyone.
I still don't understand why the suspects safety is even considered when deciding whether to pursue, surely by running from the police you should waive that right? I watched a police documentary the other day about phone snatching thieves, they got in pursuit of a pair on a moped, one of them removed his helmet so they immediately broke off pursuit and let them go, absolute madness. Then there was a case of a thief being pursued who crashed and died, the officers were taken off duty and potentially facing prosecution when they should have been given a pat on the back and told to go out and keep up the good work, one down, several thousand more to go.
When it's a car driving like a total maniac and there is a decent chance of a member of the public being killed that's different but bike thieves being killed is a good result for everyone.
cybersimon said:
Labour MP for East Ham Stephen Timms said
"We could certainly come up with arrangements that would allow people to use sulphuric acid in the normal way"
A great example of this is the ban on all legal highs last year, specifically nitrous oxide. I watched an enlightening video on Vice about how various "dealers" have now setup catering businesses that provide 24 hour home delivery. No special license required and customers merely have to say "I'm using it for cooking". "We could certainly come up with arrangements that would allow people to use sulphuric acid in the normal way"
As many have said, increase sentencing for these offences. An absolute joke that police are afraid of losing their jobs if they pursue. Many of my friends don't bother pursuing due to policies in the police.
Same thing with knife attacks on the rise after police were criticised for conducting too many stop and searches! Shocking times
Same thing with knife attacks on the rise after police were criticised for conducting too many stop and searches! Shocking times
Some interesting Bike crime epidemic articles here: https://bikerandbike.co.uk/
Also note the article reporting those causing mayhem on 2 wheels in Leeds a while back. I see some of those 2 wheeled "offenders" are caught and given prison sentences (easy when you have a number plate on a licensed vehicle I guess) whereas the Police cant even pursue these moped scrotes.....
As already said, the system needs fixing...in favour of the "victim"...and the "victim" is not the idiot who has stolen the vehicle trying to evade capture. If you run from the Police and kill yourself that's your own fault, no-one elses. We need to get rid of this litigation crap where Police can be prosecuted themselves for chasing a criminal.
Also note the article reporting those causing mayhem on 2 wheels in Leeds a while back. I see some of those 2 wheeled "offenders" are caught and given prison sentences (easy when you have a number plate on a licensed vehicle I guess) whereas the Police cant even pursue these moped scrotes.....
As already said, the system needs fixing...in favour of the "victim"...and the "victim" is not the idiot who has stolen the vehicle trying to evade capture. If you run from the Police and kill yourself that's your own fault, no-one elses. We need to get rid of this litigation crap where Police can be prosecuted themselves for chasing a criminal.
This is the obvious solution - in acid resistant rubber.
Although I'm not sure how domino's customers will react when a gimp turns up with their large pepperoni.
Bonus points to scare off the moped gangs would be riding round with a huge black strap on, the prospect of a vicious bum-rape by a gimp might put them off a bit.
Although I'm not sure how domino's customers will react when a gimp turns up with their large pepperoni.
Bonus points to scare off the moped gangs would be riding round with a huge black strap on, the prospect of a vicious bum-rape by a gimp might put them off a bit.
It's one of those "there are already laws to stop this" situations. Stealing a moped, illegal, riding a stolen moped without insurance license etc, illegal, stealing another moped, illegal, throwing acid in someone's face, illegal.
The problem isn't the law, isn't the fact they have access to acid, as stated they'd just use something else equally nasty. The problem, as stated is that they aren't pursuing and catching them both enough to bring about justice, nor enough to act as a deterrent.
Change the pursuit policy, have more police, catch more of them. At the moment it does seem like it's a guaranteed jackpot for anyone prepared to break the law and go stealing in London. That's what needs changing.
The problem isn't the law, isn't the fact they have access to acid, as stated they'd just use something else equally nasty. The problem, as stated is that they aren't pursuing and catching them both enough to bring about justice, nor enough to act as a deterrent.
Change the pursuit policy, have more police, catch more of them. At the moment it does seem like it's a guaranteed jackpot for anyone prepared to break the law and go stealing in London. That's what needs changing.
bgunn said:
Ban acid.
Yeah, that'll fix it!
As said, dumb f
k, completely out of touch loony lefties being reported upon by dumb fk completely out of touch loony lefties, with an anti 'real world' view of everything.
Diane Abbott is a hateful figure who believes that every minority group is more important than anything else - basically. So ISIS is great.
I dunno, pretty easy to in force tbh, just ban 99% of toilet cleaners, drain unblockers, mould sprays, batteries.Yeah, that'll fix it!
As said, dumb f
k, completely out of touch loony lefties being reported upon by dumb fk completely out of touch loony lefties, with an anti 'real world' view of everything.Diane Abbott is a hateful figure who believes that every minority group is more important than anything else - basically. So ISIS is great.
Of course you wouldn't ban the likes of lesser concentrate acid based products such as yogurt, apple juice, vinegar, fizzy juice. The criminal certainly wouldn't put high concentrate hcl/sulphuric/nitric acid in a any of these bottles so if stopped it didn't arouse suspicion. But even if they did, the police could easily identify the accetic acid concentration in a bottle of vinger or over some Nitric just by eh sniffing it.....oh wait isn't that why a lot of lab workers end up with cancer and well dead. hmmm.
phil4 said:
It's one of those "there are already laws to stop this" situations. Stealing a moped, illegal, riding a stolen moped without insurance license etc, illegal, stealing another moped, illegal, throwing acid in someone's face, illegal.
The problem isn't the law, isn't the fact they have access to acid, as stated they'd just use something else equally nasty. The problem, as stated is that they aren't pursuing and catching them both enough to bring about justice, nor enough to act as a deterrent.
Change the pursuit policy, have more police, catch more of them. At the moment it does seem like it's a guaranteed jackpot for anyone prepared to break the law and go stealing in London. That's what needs changing.
Exactly. The police have been dumbheaded about this, when it started they just advised bike owners to secure them properly, so we did and then the scrotes escalated to taking out locks in broad daylight with angle grinders. Just as car immobilisers escalated thieves into breaking into houses to steal keys the scrotes cottonned on to the fact it's much quicker and easier to bike jack someone than go to the effort of defeating the security.The problem isn't the law, isn't the fact they have access to acid, as stated they'd just use something else equally nasty. The problem, as stated is that they aren't pursuing and catching them both enough to bring about justice, nor enough to act as a deterrent.
Change the pursuit policy, have more police, catch more of them. At the moment it does seem like it's a guaranteed jackpot for anyone prepared to break the law and go stealing in London. That's what needs changing.
Until they get caught and the punishment is a severe enough deterrant whatever we do will just escalate them to the next level. If they ban acid they'll just find the supplier warehouse and steal it.
nyxster said:
This is the obvious solution - in acid resistant rubber.
Although I'm not sure how domino's customers will react when a gimp turns up with their large pepperoni.
Bonus points to scare off the moped gangs would be riding round with a huge black strap on, the prospect of a vicious bum-rape by a gimp might put them off a bit.
Nailed it. Front seat in the House of Commons shortly.Although I'm not sure how domino's customers will react when a gimp turns up with their large pepperoni.
Bonus points to scare off the moped gangs would be riding round with a huge black strap on, the prospect of a vicious bum-rape by a gimp might put them off a bit.
Jonno02 said:
As someone who works with acid (albeit Sulfuric 99.9% grade) I had the tiniest drop splash my leg a while ago...and I mean tiny. The pain was incredible, so I cannot bear to think what it feels like having it thrown in your face. Utterly despicable.
Where was your PPE? If you are working with acids there should be no way you could get even a drop on your skin. I work in a lab with many dangerous chemicals and I wouldnt dream of working without a labcoat, covered legs and feet. Mind you I do have colleagues who "forget" on a summers day and walk around in the lab with sandals on 
Prof Prolapse said:
"More terrible acid attacks. Why would you scar someone for life just to steal a moped?"
Because we let them.
Word.Because we let them.
If it were my moped and I had some "tools" at hand, I would remind them what Nemesis means:
https://youtu.be/qXRuoSHI6eQ
This country is just fked. Utterly fked. I know they have arrested a couple of people over this, but just everything is going massively down the tubes. You can steal a motorbike and not worry because you won't get chased. You can call yourself a "traveller" and immediately place yourself entirely outside every single law other than that of eviction. Thousands of people routinely carry a knife around with them, and frequently use it. Even at a much less serious level, every single day I see people driving like complete twunts, and almost all of the time they know they have nothing to worry about because there's nobody out there to stop them. You cold go on all afternoon.
I'm fully aware that some will see this as some sort of hand-wringing Mail reader's (I'm not, for the record) whine, and I equally know that plenty of people will play the liberal card and somehow defend the situation, but I don't really care. It's how I see it.
None of this, or whatever the next new "thing" is, will be stopped now. They will just carry on and get worse. Twunts will see what happened last night and copy; you can definitely expect more acid attacks soon. No, I don't know what the answer is. You could say more police, but I expect that the combination of the reduction in police numbers vs the overall increase in general population, which based on simple percentages will mean that there are far more criminals on the streets, means that we probably now need 10 times more police to tackle it. Which is not going to happen, so we may as well just get used to this and hope it never happens to anyone we know or love.
ked. Utterly fked. I know they have arrested a couple of people over this, but just everything is going massively down the tubes. You can steal a motorbike and not worry because you won't get chased. You can call yourself a "traveller" and immediately place yourself entirely outside every single law other than that of eviction. Thousands of people routinely carry a knife around with them, and frequently use it. Even at a much less serious level, every single day I see people driving like complete twunts, and almost all of the time they know they have nothing to worry about because there's nobody out there to stop them. You cold go on all afternoon.I'm fully aware that some will see this as some sort of hand-wringing Mail reader's (I'm not, for the record) whine, and I equally know that plenty of people will play the liberal card and somehow defend the situation, but I don't really care. It's how I see it.
None of this, or whatever the next new "thing" is, will be stopped now. They will just carry on and get worse. Twunts will see what happened last night and copy; you can definitely expect more acid attacks soon. No, I don't know what the answer is. You could say more police, but I expect that the combination of the reduction in police numbers vs the overall increase in general population, which based on simple percentages will mean that there are far more criminals on the streets, means that we probably now need 10 times more police to tackle it. Which is not going to happen, so we may as well just get used to this and hope it never happens to anyone we know or love.
creampuff said:
This does not happen in other developed western nations. It's unique to the UK.
A quick look and it appears that it does: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/08/23/queens-acid...
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/woma...
bgunn said:
Ban acid.
Yeah, that'll fix it!
As said, dumb fk, completely out of touch loony lefties being reported upon by dumb fk completely out of touch loony lefties, with an anti 'real world' view of everything.
Diane Abbott is a hateful figure who believes that every minority group is more important than anything else - basically. So ISIS is great.
fYeah, that'll fix it!
As said, dumb f
k, completely out of touch loony lefties being reported upon by dumb fk completely out of touch loony lefties, with an anti 'real world' view of everything.Diane Abbott is a hateful figure who believes that every minority group is more important than anything else - basically. So ISIS is great.
k me your a balanced individual! Thanks for sharing your insight. You seem new here... I can tell. Its like 6th sense.I loved your last sentence. I can actually imagine you frothing from the mouth! Keep taking the pills and lie down. Let us grown ups discuss and you chip in when you feel you can actually contribute.
Actually perhaps its best you don't. Just keep leafing through the Sun. Let us know when you have graduated to the Mail?
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